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Old 08-24-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Evinrude ETEC reliability 90 / 115 HP

What is the general opinion on reliability of these new ETEC's? The infomercials are great.

But I've heard a local dealer here is seeing 100% failure rates on ETEC's

Also, are warranties transferrable to second owners

Any advice would be appreciated.
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What is the general opinion on reliability of these new ETEC's? The infomercials are great.

But I've heard a local dealer here is seeing 100% failure rates on ETEC's

Also, are warranties transferrable to second owners

Any advice would be appreciated.
You would believe what a dealer says?

My neighbors kids all have Etecs 90 or 115. They beat the crrap out of em. They drag race them offshore all day long. In 3 yrs not one of them has failed.
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PCF, I rarely say this, but for this topic, you really should use the search feature. You will find pages and pages of discussion. 99% positive opinions. If a dealer really told you that, he is a liar and anyone who believes him, or repeats that rumor, is an idiot. Get whoever told you that about etecs (or any new motor) and offer to take them to see the dealer face to face. You will see them do the backstroke right away.
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HEY PCF, how have your yamaha sales been doing. must be off a bit if you have to come here
and spew the lies about 100% failure. that is a sure way to blow your credibility!
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:20 AM
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I have put close to 400 hrs on my E-Tec 90 in the last 15 months and it runs like a swiss watch. Zero problems. I love the no/low maintance design, put oil in and go!
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:32 AM
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I'm not a dealer, just someone who is looking for opinons on user experiences.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:38 AM
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Thought I would also add that I've owned a 1995 Johnson 60 Deg V4 that has over 600 hours on it with zero problems. So I am a big fan of the OMC legacy, it has treated me well.

Are the E-Tec warranties transferrable to second owners?
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PCF- Name the dealer, and what brand he is a dealer on. I am not an Etec owner, but spewing this garbage without any facts as your 7th post is not the way to gain help from this forum. Who is the dealer??
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:01 AM
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Gee guys, I didn't mean to offend anyone. Just looking for input to make an informed decision. All I repeated is what a dealer told me. I didn't necessarily believe him, which is why I wanted good input from a larger community
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No offense taken, however if the dealer is telling you he has a 100% failure rate....what "alternative outboard" did he offer you?.....Our ETEC dealer has had very few problems with the entire product line...., the biggest problem they've had is that a fe of the big blocks had to have the poppit valves replaced due to running hot at lower rpms.....other than that he sees them for service @ 300 hour intervals....., it doesn't matter what brand it is, when someone makes a condemning statement, everyone's feathers get ruffled, and the hair stands up on their backs...., all of these engines are quality engines now..., it's just really odd that a dealer would say that....he must have a better dealer on an engine of a different color.....
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What dealer? I've never heard of a salesman of anything committing himself with a statement that bold. What is a failure rate? Loose zinc or grenaded powerhead? This is a great time to use the search feature of this site. I am a Honda guy, but have heard good things about th etecs so far, and find it curious that a dealer of even a competing outboard making such a wild statement, and such a broad one. Specifics details sell products. A real salesman would tell you that the xyz part on the etecs aren't hardened stainless like his x brand is, and that is why you need to buy his x outboard, that and he'll throw in a free keychain to boot. Not that there is a '100% failure rate on Etecs'- which is true- everything dies eventually. This thread has a 100% failure rate.
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Gee guys, I didn't mean to offend anyone. Just looking for input to make an informed decision. All I repeated is what a dealer told me. I didn't necessarily believe him, which is why I wanted good input from a larger community
I am still amazed that you will believe a salesman.. In this day and age it kinda bogles d'mind.

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i had a salesman at a dealership tell me (when he asked what engines i was considering & i told i had looked at an e-tec & a 4 stroke yamaha already)" oh you don't want an e-tec they blow powerheads all the time ,smoke real bad ,get bad gas milage,& are really loud." i responed with "i would like the names & phone numbers of the people you know with blown e-tec powerheads". he backed down very fast & i asked to speak to the manager of the dealership & told the manager that they lost a potential sale today & in the future because i will not buy from a salesman who just lies through his teeth to sell his product(of which he had very little knowlege). point out the positives of your product what ever it may be & sell me on those features & the quality service you can provide.
off the soap box now & on the the question at hand. the 90 & 115 e-tecs by & large have been reliable & the warranty is transferable.good luck
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I have an ETEC 90 that I use extensively. Flawless motor. That's about as simple as I can put it.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:31 PM
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Thank you, SC Angler for clearing up the question on warranty transer to a second owner.

And no, I don't believe any salesperson until I can confirm their statement with other fact finding.
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I dont believe they had a 100 percent failure rate either, and I don't like E-TECH at ALL. BUt, regardless of what some say, e-techs have had HIGH failure rates in our area on the V-6 blocks. Call the Charleston Marine Patrol and talk to any of the sherriffs running the 28 Mckee Crafts and ask them how many powerheads have been replaced on THAT BOAT. From the 2 men running that boat; "We are on our 5th set of powerheads." I'll get you their names and numbers if you like. I also have a customer looking at some suzuki 150's for a repower job. He currently has 2 BLOWN powerheads on a set of 150 E-Tecs and a set of 200 etecs that are used commercially for hydrographic soundings in the Savannah river system.Tey are BLOWN UP too. Had the outboards put on from Buck's outboards I believe. Would you like to get his info as well. Send me an email, I have more names if you like. I also know people that love theirs; for now. Our local Fountain dealer had a 100% failure rate on all opti V-6's when they first came out. The failures were a guarantee before the manufacturer warranty would expire he said. That is no longer the case now, optis run great. But he told people that heard of their problems that it wasn;t true and anyone who said it was a liar and hated Jesus, Blah, blah, blah. Those E-TEcs are having some real issues, and if anyone thinks otherwise is fooling himself. WE see it ALOT.
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By the way, 2 years ago we attended a dealer meeting for Carolina skiff. They were singing the praises of the e-tecs and we had better hurry and get on board with the program for the next great motor to come along in years, and so on. Didn't buy into it at all after two of the e-tecs, one on a flats boat(200hp), and one on a offshore boat(250hp) both quit running on the second day of demo runs. The 200 blew the powerhead and the 250 was running hot and rough. The suzukis, mercury verados, hondolas, and yammies were still running the rest of the show. The Jacksonville Ppolice department had twin 250 e-tecs on a big Whaler patrol boat and said they had already had three powerhead failures on their boat. When I asked the E-tec sales reps about it, they said, "We have NEVER heard of any powerhead failures on these motors!" I cancelled my E-tecs orders that very hour. I guess anyone with a blown E-Tec who talks about it is an OUTCAST of the CULT. Where is the Kool-Aid??
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Are the E-Tec warranties transferrable to second owners?

Mine is not, Cause I aint sellin it
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Are the E-Tec warranties transferrable to second owners?

Mine is not, Cause I aint sellin it
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ras - i have 2 v-6 (twn 200 ho) e-tecs with over 500 hrs & no problems at all. i have a freind who has the same boat i do with the same engines & he has over 1700 hrs on his & all he does is go in for his 300 hr service.i know 5 others who are running large block v-6 evinrudes & only one has had a problem. he had to replace the TPS . all of the guys put alot of hours on their engines & have had almost no problems.maybe we just got engines made tuesday thru thurday & your guys got the monday & friday engines.
What would be more intersting is to find out (if true) what was the cause of their problems. just putting a new powerhead on the engine does not solve the problem in many cases....something caused the problem.

By the way ras i would not buy a boat from you either when i go to pruchase a new boat.(and i really like McKees)Iwould also like the names & phone numbers of those people with the blown powerheads & also the name & phone number of there servincing tech since you said you would do so.

Speaking of the Suzuki your so fond of (i like them also) make sure they do not loose a powerhead on those engines as they are not stocked in the US & TAKES SOME TIME TO get them here.
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