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Old 08-18-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Nav/Anchor Light circuit

I'm working on refitting an old Wellcraft. Replacing the 20yr old wiring(redundant splices, modular plugs, and wires cut clean in-two - where they where just layed across the rough, top edge of the hull; Not to worry through it was ONLY the Ign Hot Wire!).........but I digress

Q: I am working on the Nav-Anchor Light circuit. There is some funky kind of existing circuit which involes the wiper circuit the circuits will be seperated now. (I'm seperating battery sources and that ain't gonna work!)


I KNOW that I have to have, a diode (not LED), to limit the current flow to the single-lamp, mast-head (window top) light bulb... so that the red-green light and the mast head can function together or seperately.....If you've read this far I'll assume you understand the circuit.:[img]../images/emoticons/sleeping.gif[/img][img]../images/emoticons/sleeping.gif[/img]

What I need to know is, how to specify the Diode -it's 9-16v range... probably 3-5 amps would be sufficeint.

Can anyone help?

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If you have the old diode, you just match the color bands.......or do a search for diode color bands.
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I am facing the same challenge... old boat, reworked wiring.
Have the On/Off/On switch, and LED lighting for the nav and anchor lights. All lights are coming on in either switch position.
Hoping that someone can post a diagram of how to get this circuit to work properly, and if I need to add something to the circuit, where it goes.

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I can't get it to post. All you have to do is use a 6 pin toggle switch. D.P.D.T.
Two Lamp System:
Jumper the two middle power pins together. If the switch is in the panel, the bottom pins are the nav when the handle throws up. The bow bi-color goes to one of these pins. The other bottom pin has a jumper the runs to the top pin on the SAME SIDE for anchor with a piggyback end the goes to the anchor light. There will be one pin left over.

MastHead System:
Jumper the two middle power pins together. If the switch is in the panel, the bottom pins are the nav when the handle throws up. The bow bi-color bow light and the transom light go to one of these pins.
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As timebandit says, no special circuits/ diodes invloved. I've got to run now, but if the wiring diagram hasn't been posted when I get back later, I'll post it.

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I can't get it to post. All you have to do is use a 6 pin toggle switch. D.P.D.T.

Jumper the two middle power pins together. If the switch is in the panel, the bottom pins are the nav when the handle throws up. The bow bi-color goes to one of these pins. The other bottom pin has a jumper the runs to the top pin on the SAME SIDE for anchor with a piggyback end the goes to the anchor light.
Yep, it's all in the switch, no diode needed. Mine is a rotary switch, not a toggle. center is off, one way is anchor (all around) light, other way is anchor light plus navigation lights.
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I can't get it to post. All you have to do is use a 6 pin toggle switch. D.P.D.T.
Two Lamp System: (Non Masthead)
Jumper the two middle power pins together. If the switch is in the panel, the bottom pins are the nav when the handle throws up. The bow bi-color goes to one of these pins. The other bottom pin has a jumper the runs to the top pin on the SAME SIDE for anchor with a piggyback end the goes to the anchor light. There will be one pin left over.

MastHead System Design 1: Single Toggle. (6 pin)
Jumper the two middle power pins together. If the switch is in the panel, the bottom pins are the nav when the handle throws up. The bow bi-color bow light and the transom light go to one of these pins with a piggyback end. The Fwd. compartment of the mast will go to the other bottom (nav) pin. The Aft. compartment of the mast will go to top (anc) pin on the SAME SIDE the switch. Run a jumper diagonally across the switch (corner to corner) to bring the two mast compartments together in the anc. position. There will be one pin left over.

MastHead System Design 2: Twin Toggle. (4 Pin)
Both switches will be S.P.D.T. The Nav. switch will have the bow and transom piggybacked on one side of the switch. The Anc. toggle will have the Fwd and Aft compartments on seperate sides of the switch. A jumper wire will run from the other side of the Nav. switch into the FWD compartment of the Anc. switch.


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The 6 pin toggle switch is a good idea, I just used a relay and it worked out well. Send me a pm and I can send you the diagram, it is very simple.
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He might be wanting to use the same single circuit top light for both nav and anchor. In that case a diode or other current limiting device might be needed. I started to do this on one of my boats, then decided to just add another light.
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A specialized COLE-HERSEE switch Model M-532 will work as well.
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WOW!! Way more resposes that I had hoped for - I hadn't even considered actually using both poles on the switch - I like that A LOT better than the diode and since I have both wires there (at the switches) that's probably what I'l do -
THANKS EVERYONE...Bill
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I could not turn up a diagram, but I will keep looking because it is a common question and a little hard to understand at first.
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. n/c. | + ¦aft
. pos | + ¦pos
. fwd | + ¦bow/transom

Now jumper the fwd and aft together.
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no reason to limit current or voltage everything is 12V a very simple thing has been make complicated, the DPDT switch will do it as mentioned, or you could just use two seperate switches if you eally wanted to, just both on when under way, andcor when anchored, easy as!
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Diodes drip voltage. Hence dimmer lights.
Noelm, What your suggesting would take 3 or 4 separate switches. This can be done with 1 or 2.
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Diodes drip voltage.
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Diodes drip voltage.
Huh?
Drop, Sorry.
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one switch or two at most will do it, one switch as per your example, or two, one for anchor light, one for red/green both on or one on when at anchor
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OH and a diode to drop voltage? why then would you want to drop voltage? it is all 12volt, lights, batteries the whole caboose!
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OH and a diode to drop voltage? why then would you want to drop voltage? it is all 12volt, lights, batteries the whole caboose!
No, you don't. That's just it.
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