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Old 07-17-2003, 07:08 AM
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My boat has a single Yamaha 225ox66 which I love. I predominately fish offshore, usaully 35-60 miles off. So twins would be a great peace of mind. The only thing is that my boat would still has 1 fuel tank and most problems with twins are fuel related. So now to the questions:What could I sell my motor for(2000 model)? and what would you repower with? or would you repower at all?
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Old 07-17-2003, 08:29 AM
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Sounds like it is time to move up to the 25 contender with twins. For 60 miles offshore, 23 is the absolute minimum. I personnally think that moving to twins on your current vessel would not make that much sense for what you do. If you have a very good vhf/antenna, a back up handheld, survivoral suits, EPIRB, and good towing insurance 600+ ft of good anchor line, and you only go out on nice days then keep fishing. For the $2,000 in safety equipment, you get the same piece of mind as twins in my opinion.
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Old 07-17-2003, 08:39 AM
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Interesting delima.. and definately a tough call. Another thing.. is your fuel cap. enough to support the twin big blocks it would take to push that rig the way it runs now with a single??? I personally would go for the twins if your fuel supply and wallet will support it. I am stuck with a single due to monetary constraints and therefore run a kicker. That is also an option.. a 9.9 4strk high thrust Yamaha would kick that 23 very well.

I would think that you could probably get around 5k for your yammie. If resold.. depending on the hours and appearance of the motor of course.. 140 Suzi 4 strks would be sweet on that rig if fuel is a concearn...


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Old 07-17-2003, 08:45 AM
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If you are serious about selling your motor I am interested. I am in town and in need of a used Yammi 225. Is it a 25"?

Have you thought about going to a HPDI. A 250Hp will burn less fuel than the ox66 225 and you will get a little more performance.

there is also the 4 stroke option, there is plenty of discussion on that topic here



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Old 07-17-2003, 10:53 AM
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Most problems with twins are fuel!!

I'm not sure who made this up, but I've had twins for over 5 years, and I've had numerous problems, and NONE were fuel related. There are literally hundreds of things that can go wrong in an outboard motor that are not fuel related.

I recently bot twin DF140's and thought my problems wre over and surprise, I had a throttle cable problem at the boat ramp last weekend!

Personally for me, life is precious, I would not venture far offshore alone with twins.

Having said that, the DF140's would probably be a good fit for that hull, although the weight might be an issue.

Good luck.

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Old 07-17-2003, 11:22 AM
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2 choices -

Punt to the 25 (you'll love it - sold my 23 for a 31)

If that is not an option -
Repower with twins - higher cost, higher maintenance, higher warranty, more fuel, more weight in the stern...but, you get a second motor which is just plain cool and a really big kicker if one of them goes out.

Repower with a single and a kicker - better everything but not as cool. I'd repower with a 250. My 23 strained a bit with a combat load with the 225 OX66.
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dont repower....do the preventative stuff on
yours and put double racors on...buy only from
a BUSY gas vendor....you wont get your money`s
worth from any move at this point...dan
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Thanks for the replies. I have all the safety stuff, so that is not a problem. I hold 150 gallons and I am getting 2.22 mpg. Would just be nice to look back and see two yammies
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Let's look at what it might cost. Prices from Ed's Marine Superstore:

Mercury 150 2-stroke ==> 2 @ $6900/each = $13,800
Johnson 150 2-stroke ==> 2 @ $7100/each = $14,200
Yamaha 150 2-stroke ==> 2 @ $7700/each = $15,400
Johnson 140 4-stroke ==> 2 @ $7800/each = $15,600
Mercury 150 2-stroke EFI ==> 2 @ $8500/each = $17000
Yamaha 150 2-stroke EFI ==> 2 @ $9000/each = $18000
Yamaha 150 2-stroke HPDI ==> 2 @ $10500/each = $21000

Of course, it'll cost a few extra $$ for controls and installation.

What's the most fuel you've ever consumed with your current motor. The twin 150 carbs won't burn twice as much as your old motor. Can you live with that? There are plenty 23 Contenders out there with twins, so it must be quite feasible from a fuel point of view.

I'd probably stick a pair of carbed (pick your favorite brand) 150's out back or maybe the 4-stroke 140's and you're probably looking at a $10-12K upgrade. Brand new twins hanging off the back of that rig should certainly add considerable value to the rig if you were to resell.

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Keep in mind, that even with twins you can have realibility problems. Bad fuel, bad maintenance, bad batteries. Many boats with twins, cannot plane on one engine, I can't; I'd have to change props. Others can, but it's one heck of a strain on the single motor. The point I'm getting at, is that in most instances with one motor you will be reduced to hull speed, say 6-8 MPH, particullarly if a sea is running. I would suggest a 25 HP, four stroke, high torque. This gives you a larger diameter prop than a 9.9 HP and would give you greater control when running and inlet or if it's rough. You could also use it to troll. I had a 9.9 HP, four stroke Yamaha on a 18' Boston Whaler and it was marginal in a sea over three feet. Do you have room on the transom for a 25 HP? I would not put it on a bracket. I believe twins are great for boats that need greater HP (Vs the realiability issue) plus their easier to dock. I think you have a great set-up now...keep it well maintained.

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