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Old 06-04-2007, 03:45 PM
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I am thinking about getting my 100 ton captain's license. I live in the Norfolk area, and would like to get a job in the "Captian's field." Can anyone tell me what type of jobs would be available once I got this license or what a good place to start would be?? I have plenty of boating experience but mainly on my own boat fishing and such. I am interested in getting a job with a pilot company or a tug boat something along those lines.........

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Lots of work in the Gulf running crew boats, tugs, etc. You will learn a lot there.

The glitzzy fun jobs are running sportfish boats and yachts. They require lots of experiance. Visit Crewfinders.com (in Fort Lauderdale) the place people on boats.

I have done both, the yacht scene can get boring if all your boat does is sit at the dock and fight with owners over money. The commercial side is also hard becasue you are never at the dock. Depends what you are looking for. Both are VERY different.
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My friend has a 100 ton license and ran crew boats and supply boats here in the gulf. Says the money was not good.
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Takes alot of time to earn good money in this business - He never said anything about making good money.
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You will need to get a tow endorsement on your license in order to operate commercial tow boats. No big deal...just one more test to pass.
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Ktrain, check with MORAN towing down there in Norfolk, they have a pretty big outfit there with the NAVY contracts. I doubt a 100Ton License will do you any good unless your planning on working exclusively on Fiberglass.....but if you wanna go into commercial maritime work, you'll have to get your Z-Card, and all the other "stuff" the coasties throw at ya....the process is slow, and is a mix between new electronic registrations etc....but with the age old, fill this paper out and send it in kinda deal....the whole UCCG process is not very seamless by any means. Im sure there are other Tug Companies that run boats right there in the Hampton Roads area, lots of barge work etc....but you may have to start out working on deck as an O/S (Ordinary Seamen) before you can walk straight into the wheel house.....that kinda thing takes time....and most folks working commercial boats dont give a rats-a$$ about your time on the water on pleasure craft....its really apples and oranges, so Ive found.

Dont let that discourage you though.....I took my passion for the water to a career on it as well, buts its a far ways away from fiberglass boats. PM me if you have any questions about the commercial side of it.

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You will need to get a tow endorsement on your license in order to operate commercial tow boats. No big deal...just one more test to pass.
Sorry, there is a lot more to it than that. You need either 1 or 2 years as a "wheelman" on a tug or towboat. It is essentially an apprenticeship (sp). This is a relatively new thing but a Master of Towing endoresment is a whole lot more than just one more test.
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My friend has a 100 ton license and ran crew boats and supply boats here in the gulf. Says the money was not good.
What does he consider not good...$250-$350 a day is pretty good to a lot of people. That is based on experience though.
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that pay would work for me! i really wish that i would have gotten started on this earlier in life. i would like to do the tug thing but i think you have to be on a boat for weeks at at time. i have a 1 yr old son and really don't want to be away for that long. i would like a job where i come home every night if that exist. thanks for the input
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I worked on offshore tugs for a while. Ended up with my 200T mate near shore and 100T master inland license. Then I went on to school to get a land job as a Naval Architect.

Not to downplay working on tugs. It was great. Actually, the best job I ever had, in terms of satisfaction. But it's a tough life if you want to have a family at any time in the future.

A couple of things:

Just because you walk in the front door with a "100T license" does not mean you will see any wheel time. Or wheel pay. You're going to have to start with your Z card, working on the deck. It's about documented sea time, not fishing.

I believe you can operate an Uninspected Towing vessel without a towing endorsement. I know the tugs I used to work on, the Captains didn't have any towing endorsements. IIRC.

At any rate, it's not something you can just jump into and say: "lemme drive this $10 MM boat!" Even after 2 years on deck, after I got my mate's (which was perfectly good for operating in our area), I was still probably 6 months from really getting a mate's seat.

It takes time and dedication to make the big bucks. And they're out there, you just need to work for them.

Personally, I would go for my engineers license if I had to do it all over again with a career in mind. Our Chief engineers got paid almost as much as the captains, and didn't have to deal with 1/2 the BS.

Anyway, just food for thought.

Check out this site for the facts about licensing:

http://www.uscg.mil/stcw/index.htm
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your going to need some time on bigger boats to get a 100 ton
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You are going to have to get documented time on these tugs, commercial, excursion or whetever boats you want to be the master on. Then you need to deal with the politics of the companies and hope the position opens. Basically, the captain with the 500 ton ticket and experience will get the job.
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Have a good friend who runs big ocean going tugs--he worked about 20 years to work his way up to skipper--master all tonage, all oceans, towing and sail endorsements etc.
Lots of schools, Radar, Fire fighting, EMT, etc--and works 2 to 3 months on 24 hours a day, and off 2 to 3 months. He loves the time off, and gets good pay, but takes a long time to work up to the top jobs. Lots of folks take the crew boat jobs and burn out very fast.

Something to be said about engineer's job as above.
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When you apply for your "captians license" make sure it is spelled "Captains license" on the application. The Coast Guard has a reputation for kicking this one back every time. Good luck to you there!
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I've lived in the Tidewater area since 1972. Retired from the USN in 1993 with 28 years service.

Licensed Merchant Marine Officer, Master, Oceans, Steam, Motor & Sail, 1600-Tons; Chief Mate, Oceans, Unlimited Tonnage; Qualified Radar Observer; Z-Card; Licensed AB.

Worked as a part-time relief Captain on some local "T boats from 1990-1997. Fun some of the time, hard work most of the time, lousy pay all of the time. "100-Tonners" are really common, so supply is greater than demand and the pay is not good.

Most of the comments above are quite accurate - if you want to make a decent living on the water, you need to spend a LOT of time on the water - getting experience, and then working. It's not a 9-5 job...

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The towing license has recently undergone a major change to a Master of Towing. It has become a very time consuming license to get. You can get a towing endorsement on you license for commercial assist towing, like Sea Tow, which is another job possibility.
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Ktrain,

With a 100 ton, I think you can work the Spirit of Norfolk. You can also work the ferries that run between Norfolk and Portsmouth. The only thing is that I'm pretty sure those jobs don't pay diddly. Also, the water taxi that runs around Town Point Park in Norfolk @ Waterside may be looking for someone. PM me if you're interested.

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Should have been around during the tugboat strike in '87, Moran [Curtis Bay Towing] was hiring like crazy...Of course those of us who worked for them back then called them scabs.

The minimum license required was mate of uninspected towing vessels 300 tons....You could not get anything near that without tug experience and lots of it.
The ship docking Co's were the primo jobs on the waterfront and they simply would not hire anyone without experience and back then you needed to be in the union.
The Captains made the call when it came to hiring and promoting, if you couldn't do the work, you didn't get hired, period. Too much of our work [as docking pilots] relies on the guy in the wheelhouse of the tug to fool around with amateurs.

If you had any feel for the work, the Captain's and others would mentor you along. Personally, I never met or worked with a better group of men in my life and I cherish those years.


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