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Old 05-20-2007, 03:00 PM
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Anyone else out there having problems with their Evinrude E-Tec? I'm the owner of a 2006 90hp with only 326 hours on it and it is falling apart at the seams. There is severe corrosion in the powerhead, wiring, and lower unit casing. It has also had at least two gaskets fail allowing saltwater to leak inside the cowling. All of this happend after less than two years of service.

The biggest problem of all is the treatment I'm getting from Evinrude/BRP. At first they insisted this was my fault and weren't going to cover the corrosion under the warranty. My service center has also had the engine for exactly three weeks and still can't tell me when the parts it ordered two weeks ago will be delivered.

On top of all this, and the story has a lot more ugly details, I'm a veteran charter captain with 12 years on the water, the entire time using Johnson/Evinrude engines.

After a quick search on the internet I found another charter guide in Texas with the identical story. I believe this is the beginnings of a class action lawsuit and want to know if anyone else has had a similar situation with Evinrude/BRP.
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i think you and ur buddy are the only ones... maybe the gasket leak led to all your other problems, with routine mantenance (and basic cleaning) you should have caught on to that... as far as the lower unit corrosion, your a guide, with a 90 horse, let me guess you run the flats a lot. bet you never hit bottom and tore up the seagrass, wait...you probably do that daily. I imagine bare metal doesnt hold up to salt all to well, especially when used everyday.With "only" 326 hours in a year i imagine youve used your rig a bit more then the average guy, just imagine the hours your motor was sitting in saltwater without the engine running.

On a more serious note, have you checked all your wiring to make sure you dont have stray current in the water increasing your corrosion. what about the sacrificial annodes, how do they look? I imagine this didnt happen over night, why didnt you look into at the first signs fo corosion on a new motor? I know i would have
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Do you have shore power? Bringing AC on the boat for charging or something or some other reason? If so, hope you have a galvanic isolator, gotta have one for that. Gearcases can almost disappear in weeks without one.

Can't imagine why the motor would corrode if your grounding system is sound. Zincs go first.
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Guys,

Thanks for your replies but please keep one thing in mind. I'm not bashing the E-Tec. I'm simply posting a very brief overview of what's happend with mine and the response from the company. I know that those of having trouble with these motors are in the minority. People get very defensive and combative when they think you're insulting a product they believe in and that is not what I'm doing here. I'm just trying to see if anyone else has had a similar experience.

As for my knowledge of routine maintenance, please don't question that or give me sarcastic replies. You don't know my entire situation with this engine based on three short paragraphs. Again, I'm not bashing the E-Tec and up until last month I raved about it to anyone who would listen. Over the next day or so I'll write out a much more detailed report of my entire experience with this motor, my service department, and BRP. I know that there are thousands of you out there who love your E-Tec and I really wish I were in your shoes. Thanks.
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Please post pics, otherwise you will not be believed on this site.
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I have the photos and obviously need to write a more detailed report. I'll be doing that later today.

Again, I'm not jumping on here and screaming "Evinrude Sucks." I know that will get me nowhere. I've had a long history of great service from their older 2-strokes and up until last month the E-Tec performed flawlessly.

The issues I have seem to be above and beyond that of any normally maintained engine. An even bigger issue has been the reaction from the majority of people at BRP. With one notable exception, the staff there has been confused, indifferent, and even combative when I've called to plead for some attention. This is not the way a company should react to a charter captain who depends on their product to keep a roof over his head.

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I have the photos and obviously need to write a more detailed report. I'll be doing that later today.

Again, I'm not jumping on here and screaming "Evinrude Sucks." I know that will get me nowhere. I've had a long history of great service from their older 2-strokes and up until last month the E-Tec performed flawlessly.

The issues I have seem to be above and beyond that of any normally maintained engine. An even bigger issue has been the reaction from the majority of people at BRP. With one notable exception, the staff there has been confused, indifferent, and even combative when I've called to plead for some attention. This is not the way a company should react to a charter captain who depends on their product to keep a roof over his head.

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Please provide the link for the Texas owner with the same issue.
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Old 05-20-2007, 05:10 PM
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If your intent was truly to not bash, a better title would have been Serious Problems with MY Evinrude E-Tec Engine.
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Man, you jokers need to lighten up.
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I don't think he is bashing but he is not fully explaining either.

Something isn't quite right here.

A block and gearcase is just not gonna rot with zincs and proper grounding in place. And with what can and does happen with shore power gone awry, no manufacturer in gonna warranty that because it has nothing to do with the motor, the motor is the victim, not the cause. Even my vintage 1986 Suzuki's had zero corrosion inside and outside them at 20 years old. The corrosion protection technology was mastered many years ago.

Not sure what is going on here with this thread.
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Due to you being a guide/Capt, have they clipped your wing's back to a 1yr warranty yet? It's considered commercial use.
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Do you have shore power? Bringing AC on the boat for charging or something or some other reason? If so, hope you have a galvanic isolator, gotta have one for that. Gearcases can almost disappear in weeks without one.

Can't imagine why the motor would corrode if your grounding system is sound. Zincs go first.
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Did you notice the problems or was it noticed when you went in for servicing? I look under the hood often on mine for exactly this reason, if it were a gasket, you would have probably noticed this by just taking the cowling off and looking. Just my thoughts
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I work for an Authorized service station and had served a lot of E-tec's 90Hp and i never did see something like that.
It's probably coming from outside and appears to be electrical problems at the dock.it looks like shore power or other vessel power.
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The engine is on a Maverick skiff. It is never plugged into shore power, flushed every day, and the zincs are completely intact. Since you must remove the cowling to add oil, I obviously take a peek under there quite a bit. Once again, I know I have yet to provide all the details and photos but I will get those posted. I have a lot of information to organize. Another problem is my location in the Caribbean. My boat is on a differnt island where the only Evinrude service center is located and I don't have access to it. If I were back in Florida a lot would have been different. Maybe my friend in Texas and I are the only ones who ever had a bad E-Tec but the fact remains, we got some bad engines, whether anyone wants to believe us or not. I'm just trying to see if anyone else has had similar problems. I know some of you who have great E-Tecs don't want to hear this, but no company is perfect and every once in a while a bad engine gets loose. I just happen to be one of the guys on the receiving end of this.
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hmmmmm 5 post... all here.... all kickin the etec....hmmmmmm
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Just curious if the corrosion you are mentioning was easily visible or if you had to get into the guts of the motor to see it. How was it that you realized there was a problem.
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I didn't realize there was a problem with corrosion until the technician in San Juan called and told me about it, and informed me that it wouldn't be covered under my warranty, which is good until June 2008. Two weeks and nearly a hundred phone calls later to nearly a dozen different people, BRP still hasn't delivered the parts to the service center. Every day is another $300 out of my pocket and another dissapointed customer. That hurts worse than anything.

I'm not the only guide who has gone through this ringer. Read this:

http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/sh...d.php?t=118820
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;There is severe corrosion in the powerhead, wiring, and lower unit casing?
Post some pictures ,so somebody can help you ,another thing serial number and model could help
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