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Old 04-15-2007, 10:16 AM
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I'm toying with buying a Blackfin 29 in Massachusettes. I will bring it back to Pennsylvania. My diesel truck can tow it legally (weight wise) but it is 10.5 ft wide. Does anyone know if you can get a wide load permit without a CDL?
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Old 04-15-2007, 10:25 AM
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I might be wrong, but legally you would need a permit for every state you tow back through. But yes you can get a permit without a CDL.
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You would need a permit for every state, they will probably only be good for daylight hours as well. CT and NYS espically will be a pain to deal with.

Where in Massachuttsetts is the boat? May be easier to run it via the water if possible.
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Old 04-15-2007, 10:36 AM
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Every state is a bit different - I'm in the process of securing permits for Illinois, kentucky, tennesse, Georgia, and Florida for a 10' wide trailer.

10' is the about the first threshold - It usually requires flags and a permit
10'-12' (ruffly varies by state) requires flags, Oversize sign, some yellow lights.. flashing etc, and a permit.

I found several companies that do it for you but the first one I tried asked for a DOT number - which of course I didn't have one. When I called the state directly, they told me I didn't need one if I'm a private person. So I gave up getting permits through those services.

Def. use the search function on this site - I'm sure it will produce some good info. PM me if you have any more questions - I sometimes disconnect from the internet for days at a time!
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:39 AM
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Sassimi,

You stated that you have a truck that can pull it, but do you have a trailer for it? You are going to need the right trailer to move that big girl. I toyed with the idea of hauling a 24 Rampage (10' beam) back to NJ with my truck as it was sitting on it's own trailer. I made the right move and hired the local guy that hauls my boats to use his truck and trailer, which were more suited to the job. It cost me $1300 for the haul plus $100 to pick the boat off it's trailer and set it on the hauler's. Proved to be the right move as I hit a pot hole with the empty trailer and sheared the U-bolt holding the right side of the rear axle on the trailer. He was responsible for permits, etc. which he elected to not get for the 300 mile ride down from Taunton, MA to south jersey.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:45 PM
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I would have to buy a trailer so it would be a brand new tri axle. Probably worth it just having a company move it. I would really like to store it at my house over the winter so I would still buy a trailer. I could pull it at a marina about 5 miles from my house and take my chances. It would only be twice a year. I'll never forget the day I saw a 34 ft sea ray getting pulled by a Ford F-150 down interstate 90 in Pa. We passed 3 cops and not one came out to pull him over. I couldn't believe it.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:54 PM
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Better check PA carefully. Right now there is a controversy over CDL licenses. Most of the interpretation is that once the trailer is GVW rated at 10,000 lbs you need a CDL. Law used to read that it was not required unless the combined GVW fo the truck and trailer was over 26,001 lbs but the dot and local police have been issuing fines and it is playing all kinds of heck with landscape contractors moving even small equipment legally. Permitting in multi states is no picnic either. I would suggest doing yourself a favor and hiring a professional to tow it back for you and save the headache.
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Old 04-15-2007, 01:18 PM
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Pa is one of the most strict States-- if you are stopped you BETTER have working brakes!!! Penn DOT does not take excuses why they ( brakes ) don't work--- Fines are not nice and if no brakes like some salt water trailer--- your travel plans may come to a halt! until you get legal $$$$
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Man,sounds tough up your way. I haul a 36 ft CC,and talked to several others that tow 36-38 footers with 10 ft + beams.I don't know anyone with permits or that have been stopped.It's not legal,but no one seems to care.

And,no I'm not recommending hauling without a permit.
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Old 04-15-2007, 04:01 PM
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We went through this trailering our 29ft Hydrasport from Ma to Virginia for the FLW championship last dec.
Not only do you need a permit for each state, some states require an additional fuel permit.
Also, some states don't allow trailering on weekends or over lots of roads and bridges.
A big pain in the ars if you ask me and it can't help with sales of boats 24ft or more that are still considered trailerable.
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Old 04-15-2007, 05:16 PM
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PA is just getting to be a royal pain to haul thru. I've avoided hauling NE states, so my buddy who lives out that way has been picking up my loads and dropping the trailers in IN for me to retrieve. It's bad enough dealing with 13-14 states paperwork every week, now they pull this krap. They wanna change the laws for their own benefit, not for safety. It's about money, nothing else. Otherwise they'd be pulling every rock and coal hauler in the state over on mechanicals.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:37 PM
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No more replies necessary. I'll hire it done if I do it. Thanks all.
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