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Old 04-08-2007, 08:53 PM
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I've been contemplating the purchase of a new generator - the Honda power buy caught my interest and I was going to hold off a while and save up the cash. Then I saw that Home Depot was advertising the Coleman Powermate 1800 for just over $400 (half the price of the Honda 2000). I've posted the very long link to the Home Depot page below. I will probably only use the generator a couple of time on the boat for overnighters this year. Although I'd love a quiet generator, is it really worth the extra money? Also, I plan on hooking straight up to my shore power connection - is this okay to do? I know that the Coleman sometimes produces surges - is this going to cause a problem? Anyone else use one of these? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 04-08-2007, 08:56 PM
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It appears my link above may not be working...you can search for "coleman powermate" on the Home Depot Site to find it.

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Old 04-08-2007, 09:14 PM
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The Coleman will work just fine and is a quality product (not as good as Honda but plenty good enough). Those Briggs and Stratton lawn mower engines that Coleman uses really are loud. You may be able to get creative and fabricate some sort of baffle to lessen the exhaust noise. If you were going to be using it year-round I would say get the Honda.
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I would do neither. If you are only going to use a generator 2/year, I would rent a Honda for less than $100 / day. For example, this place rents a 1000watt generator for $40 / day: http://www.locationlighting.com/site/generators.htm. And you wouldn't have to store it and you wouldn't have to worry about mainenance.

A 1800 watt generator doesn't provide enough power to do much around the house, so I am assuming you will not buy it for power outages or on a jobsite.

If you do go ahead with a purchase, I would look to eBay. I bought a new 2500watt Honda-powered generator for less than $400 plus $50 for shipping.
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The Honda is 59 decibels, like normal conversation, the Coleman is 69 decibels, like a vaccum cleaner. I don't think you'll be using the Coleman for overnighting, heck my Honda goes in the inflatable when running @ only 59 dB.

The Coleman is 50 % heavier than the Honda as well.

If you get the Coleman, you won't be making friends running it. Oh ya, and don't anchor near me.....

Sound Decibel Level Time Permitted
rustling leaves 20 dB no limit
whispering 25 dB no limit
library 30 dB no limit
refrigerator 45 dB no limit
average home 50 dB no limit
normal conversation 60 dB no limit
clothes dryer 60 dB no limit
washing machine 65 dB no limit
dishwasher 65 dB no limit
car 70 dB no limit
vacuum cleaner 70 dB no limit
mixer 70 dB no limit
electric sewing machine 70 dB no limit
busy traffic 75 dB no limit

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Grady - that's hilarious...guess you'd know if it was me nearby out on Jeffries or Stellwagon. You guys make some good points...I was on Ebay tonight because I think I'd regret buying a loud generator when I could have spent a few more dollars for the Honda. How about the Kipor? That seems to be close to the Honda and maybe even a little cheaper (maybe cheaper quality too?).

I think I may pass on the Coleman...just have to save some money for a quieter one I suppose.

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Old 04-08-2007, 10:57 PM
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I haven't heard anything bad about the chinese knock-off (Kipor). As a matter of fact, they're quite populor with the RV gang, my boss had me seriously looking at one, if it was 1/2 the price (instead of 3/4) of the Honda I would have bought one. He bought their 2500 and is quite happy. He also mentioned he's read some of the Honda parts are interchangable (surprise- the crooks) Seen a few vendors selling them at the boat show, seems like the best alternative to me. And the dB's are close to those of the Honda, within a couple I believe.
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Just bought a coleman 3250 at HD (so maybe not fair comparison); just a few bucks more than the 1800 and I needed more wattage. Its quieter than I though it would be, but its a far cry from being quiet. And exhaust rattles more an more as the loads increase. My experience with the hondas is limited to standing next to them running on NYC street corners as they power the coffee vendor trailers - and disbelieving that they are running. No smoke or smell, just a gentle purr. I think the honda is very impressive.

I had to buy the gen. in a rush for a construction project and don't plan on using it long term. If I was looking long term, it would be hard not to go with the hondas.

Home depot has a pretty liberal return policy. Maybe you should buy the coleman to try it out (keeping everything in good shape and not unpacking any accessories) to see if its too loud. But once you experience the honda, my guess is that it won't be a question.

Regarding the "cleanness" or surges of power, I don't know much about that except that it is more important with solid state electronics versus running things like lights. If you plan on powering lights with it, I would say OK. If your planning to run a tv or laptop off it, it could potentially do some harm to the equipment. Coleman offers some type of filter to clean up its power, but I doubt that it is cheap.
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One more thing...check the "surge" voltage if you plan on running anything with a motor - like a refrigerator or an a/c. Some motors/compressors require a large momentary surge of power to "kick them off" when they start. If they don't get enough surge power, they tend to fry themselves rather quickly.

For example, the 3250 I have can only surge to 4000 watts - not much room there, but ok for my purpose. I have seen some that can surge to double their rated powers - and of course, these are the more expensive ones.
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I own that exact Coleman powermate. It is Loud. It works well, but it is not quiet by any means. If you've ever been next to one of the Hondas, it will make you seriously consider spending the extra cash.
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I have a 2000 watt American Power form Pep Boy's. Red (Kipor).

I had a problem with a slight oil leak. The importer was a pain, by not sending parts on time and not sending all the parts the warranty center had asked for.

I got it back and it leaked worse. I then took it back to Pep Boys and demanded a new one. They gave me a new one. No problems. A buddy of mine has one too. No problems with his.

We use them to run halagon lights for Flounder giging. I wouldn't want a generator that was any louder.
The 2000 can run 1600 watts continuous. It holds 1gal of fuel. It will run a little over 4hrs on that with powering 1200 watts of lights.



As said above, if you buy a Colman you will not have friends. To freaking Loud!
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Thanks guys - appreciate all the feedback...definitely steering clear of the Coleman. I'll go with either the Honda or the Kipor...probably will get Honda just for its reliability and the service I am likely to receive should I ever have a problem. Although it will be pretty hard to pass up a deak on an equivalent Kipor.
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Is the Kipor as quiet as the Honda ?
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Yep and $350 to $400 cheaper. It also has "Smooth Power" meaning if you hook a computer to it , it the computer will not have a problem.

I mainly bought it for the db rating. I paid $600 for it. I believe they are $650 now.
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The sale is always on - just mention THT when calling. Good outfit to deal with. The 2000 with shipping included and the dc charging cable for battery was in the range of $875.00 (give or take if I recall correctly).

Contact ED at Wisesales: 1-800-916-9473

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I agree that the Honda 2000 is your best choice. Small and quiet. It seems like Edwisesales is the best route to go.
I have a couple of Yamaha 2400's that have inverters. Planned more for home use than on the boat. I like the idea of surge protection.
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Thanks guys - I think it would be "wise" to support a THT vendor...will give him a ring once I save up the dough.

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Honda 2000EU, only way to go. I use mine often on my Robalo R235 to run A/C, TV, george foreman grill, coffee pot, lights, and built in battery charger. Does great. Very quiet!! Remember to install carbon monoxide detector in cabin.
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Honda 2000EU, only way to go. I use mine often on my Robalo R235 to run A/C, TV, george foreman grill, coffee pot, lights, and built in battery charger. Does great. Very quiet!! Remember to install carbon monoxide detector in cabin.
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The sale is always on - just mention THT when calling. Good outfit to deal with. The 2000 with shipping included and the dc charging cable for battery was in the range of $875.00 (give or take if I recall correctly).

Contact ED at Wisesales: 1-800-916-9473

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http://www.wisesales.com/HondaGenNEW.html

Do they offer similar discounts with the Yamaha generators?
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