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Old 03-29-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Sea Hunt 260 vs Sailfish 2660 vs Mako 264 vs Key West 268

As I’ve mentioned in a previous message thread I’m looking for a reasonably trailerable center console that is fishable but also has seating/amenities for river cruising and is a good ‘value’ (ie not Southport/Grady/Regulator/etc money). The boat show price on the Southport 26 was $132K. By reasonably trailerable I’m thinking something in the 25/26 foot max range which has a towed weight around 8000 lbs or less (Our Excursion is rated for 10,000 lbs). We are planning at some point to get a larger express to replace our Pursuit 3070 and since this will be a ‘second’ boat I would like to keep the price as low as possible.

On paper I identified a number of candidate ‘value’ boats and I spent a lot of time on them at the Palm Beach boat show. We found four boats that both my wife and I like and they all fit the basic criteria, however all four have some flaws/compromises.

In order of how I ranked them before seeing all of them up close at the show:

#1) Sea Hunt Triton 260 – Available only with Yamaha F150s.

Pros – nice anchor locker setup, easy access all the way to the bow, plenty of seating with bow seats, forward console seat, rear bench seat, leaning post seat. Helm console has nice layout with plenty of space for dual large electronic displays, Spacious cockpit. Recessed trim tabs. Basic design and construction is good. Has beautiful clean lines. Decent bilge/pump access. Single thru-hull (for livewell/raw-water washdown)

Cons -- The only fishbox space for any decent sized fish (dolphin/wahoo/etc) is under the bow seats. The deck/hull joint is screwed, glued, and riveted! Very little built-in tackle storage. Very basic leaning post. It’s a fairly new model so there are few/none available on the used market.

Price: My research shows that I can get one for high the $50s with all the options and trailer from an out of area dealer. My local Sea Hunt dealer doesn’t seem too interested in selling Sea Hunts so I would probably buy from a non-local dealer anyway.

Ride: The ride should be tolerable with the very sharp entry, 24 degree deadrise at helm and 21 degrees at the transom

#2) Sailfish 2660 with Yamaha F150s

Pros – more fishable transom design, very nice ‘deluxe’ leaning post with livewell, Spacious helm area for large electronic displays, fit/finish/materials better than Sea Hunt. Plenty of seating for cruising with the bow seats, helm seats, and transom seats. Tackle storage in leaning post. There are quite a few available on the used market.

Cons – The only fishbox space for decent sized fish (dolphin/wahoo/etc) is under the bow seats. We didn’t like the bow seating where you have a big step up to get to the bow and we didn’t like the vertical cushions for the bow seating rather than bolsters. The trim tabs are partially recessed but not fully recessed. As a minor negative point the Sailfish 2660 looks kind of ‘chunky’ compared to the other boats. Some people might say it looks ‘stout’ or something, I think it looks chunky, but then I also owned two catamarans so obviously looks aren't overly important.

Price: Around $72K with options and trailer.

Ride: On paper it should have the softest ride of the four boats because of the 24/22 degree deadrise.

#3) Mako 264 with Suzuki 175s

Pros – Best cockpit layout. Can walk all the way to the bow with no step. Nice long fishboxes in the rear cockpit deck. Nice sized area for electronic displays. Spacious cockpit. Pretty nice leaning post/helm station (nicer than Sea Hunt, not as nice as Sailfish). Tackle storage in leaning post.

Cons – Some really bad design issues and the fit/finish was easily the worst of the four boats. The anchor ‘locker’ has no way to secure an anchor nor enough room to even store a decent sized anchor. What the hell were they thinking when they designed the “Doritos’s extra cheesy” helm windshield? The transom door had no ‘stop’ mechanism and it was clear that the hinges would have a lifespan measured in days. There were numerous instances of visible sloppiness in the construction that concerns me about what you can’t see and I’ve seen several posts from recent Mako owners that are having significant issues. If it weren’t for the fact that it has the best cockpit layout it would be scratched from the list already. It’s a fairly new model so there are few/none available on the used market.

Price: Boat show price with options (no trailer) was $69,900. Not sure how much lower they would go but I’m sure they could do better.

#4) Key West 268 with F150s

Pros – Spacious cockpit. Lots of nice seating. Nice helm layout with plenty of space for electronics. FIFTEEN rod holders on the transom seat, leaning post, and T-top. Easily the best console entry/exit and ‘potty’ area. 5 rod holders inside the console. Fit/Finish were fine for this price point.

Cons – Ride? Ride? Ride? Need a sea-trial in some real 3-4 foot chop to see how it does. The fixed transom cooler seat causes a long reach _if_ you ever have to bring a fish around the transom. I’ve fished euro-transom boats for 10 years and I have never lost a fish because of the transom, but…. Can walk almost to the bow without steps however because of the small ledge and bow molded in bow pulpit it's a little bit of a reach across the bow. It’s a fairly new model so there are few/none available on the used market.

Price: Boat show price was $85K but research shows that $74K with options and trailer should be doable.

Ride: This is what worries me most about the Key West. It has the same 21 degree transom dead-rise at the transom as the Sea Hunt and Mako, but if you compare the bow entry of the Key West to the other boats (especially the Sea Hunt) it isn’t nearly as sharp and it’s got a very wide beam at 9’8”. I’ve read several reviews of the Key West 268 that indicated it had a relatively rough ride into a head sea and I can see why.

I have numerous photos of all four boats if anyone is interested.

After the boat show I would rank them for our intended usage:

1) Key West 268 (pending sea-trial)
2a) Sailfish 2660
2b) Sea Hunt 260
3) Mako 264

At this point I'm going to try to get a good sea-trial of the Key West 268 to see how it rides. The Sailfish is a little better boat than the Sea Hunt but it's also at least 20% more money for a new one. The quality issues with the Mako are still scary after seeing one in person.

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Old 03-29-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default RE: Sea Hunt 260 vs Sailfish 2660 vs Mako 264 vs Key West 268

FYI, there is a good article in the March issue of "Boating" magazine comparing two new Key West 268's...one rigged with twin 150's and one rigged with a single 300 (all 'zukes). Lot's of good fuel burn and performance numbers.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:02 PM
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i have a 2660 sailfish with f 250s and i love it it is a awesome riding boat. and the coolers are well insulated dont never have problems with ice melting, its a good all around boat and sailfish is on the rise in popularity
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:11 PM
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In real life the sailfish has the softest ride in every lenght they make if your a mono hull
They also have a higher sheer which translates to a drier ride They also are the only one of the bunch that will drift beam to in any wind/current situation If you fish you won't be fishing 2 lines off the stern as is the case with the others
I will roll further than the others but at a slower pace This inturn is much easier on less seaworthy crew members
I'd take the kw next but the ride is noway near as soft
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:23 PM
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It sounds like its impossible to get a sea-trial on the Key West from a dealer without a signed contract so I'm going to try to find an 268 owner I can hook up with. Anyone know of any Key West 268 owners in Central Florida?

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Old 03-29-2007, 04:47 PM
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Doug,
I think your comparison is the most thoughtful and well written I seen in a long while. You are right on target. I don't think you have to worry about the Key West ride. We sea trialed the 268 at the Miami Boat show right after we sea trialed a Bluewater 2850. The weather was rough, and conditions were snotty. I was impressed with how the Key West did in direct comparison to the well-regarded and much more expensive Bluewater. The ride was firmer but not by much. The handling was superb, it carves turns like a sports car. There were no shakes or rattles. The 9'-8" beam on the 268 made it fee like a much larger boat, which gave my wife and I a feeling of comfort, security, and stability even in the snottiest white capping stuff out beyond the jetty. The Bluewater was very good too, but I swear for some reason I just felt more secure on the Key West that particular day. The lines of the 268 are very appealing, it is a gorgeous boat. A few layout elements of the Key West are not to my liking, the little step in the back for one. The cooler is very logical to me, much preferable to having to unload and clean out a fish box every trip...not to mention the hassles of macerator pumps on some of them. One uncertainty is how wet/dry the 268 is. Our sea trail found it to be dry, dryer that the Bluewater 2850.
Ours had twin 150 Etecs on it and a load of 3 people. An owner reported his was wet sometimes. I think he ran twin Yammi's, which are heavier, and carried a pretty good load. See what you think on your sea trial. I would consult with Key West to see if lighter motors hold an advantage.

One factor you did not consider is the factory support. Key West seems to be a first rate company. The son of the owner gave us our sea trial. He left me his card and said I could call him or his Dad if we needed anything. That speaks volumes to me.

My Miami report is here: http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...136848&start=1

I think your ranking of candidates is correct. I have not been on a Sailfish 2660, but I think it would be a good ride too.

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It sounds like its impossible to get a sea-trial on the Key West from a dealer without a signed contract so I'm going to try to find an 268 owner I can hook up with. Anyone know of any Key West 268 owners in Central Florida?

Thanks.

Doug

Call Hutch Holseberg at Key West, 843-873-0112 ext 203 and tell him the problem. See if there is any way they can get you on the demonstrator they had at the Miami Boat Show.
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I just went thru the process of determining what boat to buy. I was looking for something in the same price range as you and was looking at the same criteria. I also looked at resale value, performance #’s, range of the boat, and the support you will get from the factory. Sailfish came out on top hands down and after sea trialing one on a bumpy day I couldn’t look at another boat. With the criteria that are important to me Sailfish beats most of the high end boats out there that cost twice as much.
I also liked the Key West. The Sea Hunt’s ride doesn’t compare to the Sailfish and the resale value is not good. The Mako’s, Pro Lines, Centuries and other mass produced boats out there that I looked at all have some problem. Either the ride is bad, factory support isn’t very good, finish is terrible, the boat is a pile of junk etc, etc.
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Last week,

I looked at a new Sea Hunt 29" alongside of a Sailfish 2660.


That Sea Hunt looked darn good in fit and finish compared to the Sailfish!


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