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New here and would please like comments on these boats with a 115 Yam 4 stroke:
Century 1902 Inshore
Clearwater 1900 Baystar
Sea Hunt Navigator
Tidewater 1900 Bay Max
Pathfinder 2000
Blazer Bay 19'-6" bay:
I have had a wet ride on the Century, Sea Hunt and Tidewater and all ride the same except for the Sea Hunt which is approx. 4" less wide than the others. All were tested in chop, which was good, and seemed to take it good!
The Blazer Bay (BB) is a 2006 unit while the others are 07. The BB comes with factory installed trim tabs, custom swim platform/ladder, jack plate, YAM 150 4 stroke (note: the others come with a 115), 334c gps/plot, washdown..
I did a search in the forums on both the BB and Pathfinder and could not find too many neg. comments on both except for the back plumbing ports backing up?
I have seen the Blazer Bays around here and they do look nice but I have never had the opportunity to ride in one. If the ride and stability at a drift were about equal on those boats, then I would definitely go with the Blazer Bay.
I own a Sailfish 1900 Bay Boat. Its build quality, layout, features, 8'6" beam, and smooth and dry ride provide all I wanted in a bay boat. Mine has the Yamaha F115 and with 2 people on board, 50 gallons of fuel, ect., it weighs about 3100 lbs and will run 38 - 40 mph. The F150 would push it about 50 mph based upon a review on Boater's Life.
Good luck with your shopping. Don't forget to sea trial the boats however, I would narrow my list down to no more than 3 based upon the layout and features I wanted most before taking them to the water because it will be easier to compare the ride and performance characteristics.
Absolutely. That '06 is eating up space at the dealer, and does not share the annual inflation in prices with any '07. Of course it's market value is a full year "older" than a '07, even though it is technically a "new" boat. SOMETIMES you can get a better deal on a holdover boat like this. But many times the dealer will put only a modest discount on it, counting on some shopper to go ape over any discount.
I had the 19' seapro and it was a pretty darn good boat for the money. A friend of mine had 22' bluewave and he told me that my seapro rode better. My seapro would run about 42 mph with a load and it had a f115 yammie.
Also before I spent the 29K for that pathfinder I would look at the Triton and the Ranger both make a boat in that range.
Absolutely. That '06 is eating up space at the dealer, and does not share the annual inflation in prices with any '07. Of course it's market value is a full year "older" than a '07, even though it is technically a "new" boat. SOMETIMES you can get a better deal on a holdover boat like this. But many times the dealer will put only a modest discount on it, counting on some shopper to go ape over any discount.
lol you are absolutely right. Usually they just slap a sticker on it with a low price that they would normally sell at just unadvertised.
Reverse calculate off the Factory supplied MSRP sheet its a safer bet since its not likely you'll ever see a honest invoice. A boat will MSRP somewhere between 1.45 and 1.55 times the cost. Once you reverse calculate and get a roundabout cost I'd shoot for 12-14 profit margin on a out of year purchase.
Example
Boat has an MSRP of $26,250.00 at if you use 1.5 times the invoice to reach $26,250 you would be looking at a dealer cost of $17,500. At a 14% profit margin you should be shooting to pick the boat up at $19,950 +TT&L including dealer prep and freight. If you can get them below the 15% margin you are really doing good. Most boat salesmen sell a boat at 17-20% profit margin +1k-1.5k. Had said boat been in year the dealer is likely shooting for $22,000 -$22,500. You'd save yourself an easy couple of grand.
I know this because I'm in RV sales and know quite a few boat dealership owners and GMs. We often share particulars with boat dealers at boat and RV shows here in Texas just to help each other out.
I looked over a Pioneer 19' at the boat show and was completely impressed. It only lacked having a head in the console but beyond that this boat is superb. Don't know anything else about it as I was not looking for a 19' but if you haven't looked at the Pioneer it would be a good idea to make a point of it.
John Gov.
Thanks very much for the comments!!!
Still it is very hard to make a pick!
I know the wider beam boats would make for better fishing and maybe a better ride- so the lesser beam sized boats may go out in my selection?
I went and looked at the Blazer Bay boat again today and the slope from the bottom of the drain plug at the base of the floor to the outlet out back of the transom was only about 1" max which is not much- so from reading other post I think the plumbing in the drains will back up- is this a big problem if I do not go off shore in the big waves? Again, this may be a problem with the Pathfinder- will the check valve installed from Pathfinder, if it has been installed by them, help this problem?
Is there a prefect 19' boat with a lot of weight in the back of the boat? and if water does get into the back of the boat what will it do? Will it sink the boat? When I first go out I have a full tank of fuel, ice, tackle, beer , wife -etc. so I am loaded!!!
I would seatrail the Blazer first. I am concerned about the narrow beam, the weight of the 150 4 stroke and water coming in through the scuppers. I misread the prices. 24k for the Blazer isn't bad.
I would also take a look at;
"if water does get into the back of the boat what will it do? Will it sink the boat?"
Nope. Means your feet/shoes will get wet. Pathfinder is a high $ boat. So expectations are high, and this problem gets a lot of attention. The squawk over this issuewould probably not be so loud if it were a bargain boat. Your demo rides should answer which models and brands have this to consider. I would not cross off whole brands because of chatter like thison message boards. Not when it's so easy to check for yourself.
A Cat in this size range you are looking at will blow away any monohull in this size range> I've had monos this size and now have a 18' Sea Cat and hands down there is no comparison absolutely none. the cat will be smoother drier and more fuel efficient than anything out there in this size ride one when its rough and thats all the sales pitch it will take.
19' bayboats? Century?Clearwater?Sea Hunt?Tidewater?Pathfinder2000?Blazer Bay? 
