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Old 08-24-2001, 10:45 AM
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Default Best boat for the money?

I'm buying my first boat. I've been on boats for many years but never owned my own. I want a 22 - 24 foot W/A and I'm looking at the following boat makers: Angler (Can't believe the price), SeaSwirl Striper, SeaFox, Pro Line, AquaSport etc. Which of the following boats, or others that you can sugest within this type of class could someone or many of you can recommend. Your expertise will be greatly appreciated as well as your critisicm of wach.. Thank you
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Hydra Sport - no contest.

Be sure you understand the "fine print" of the hull warranties. HS is 10 years Compare the rides, and look at the re-sale values.

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Old 08-24-2001, 10:57 AM
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The HS is gonna be quite a bit more expensive than those Damien is looking at, but a Sea Pro won't be, and is better than those he lists...



Sea Pro 235 WA

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Damien, What do you mainly want to do with the boat? Fish, weekend, go offshore, stay inshore....?

Since your from Long Island, go to Bellport (around corner from my house) and take a look at the new Stieger Crafts!! Here's there WEB site link:
http://www.steigercraft.com

I'd look at the 23' Block Island. Beautifull hull made like a tank. And speaking of warranties, LIFETIME TRANSFERRABLE, incuding COMMERCIAL use (the only in the industry).


PS-I'm in no way affiliated with them, just love em, AND, as you'll find from reading this forum, don't own one!!

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Whatever, you do, stay away from SeaFox. Go look at one, and if you can't understand why you shouldn't buy one, get someone knowledgeable to go look at boats w/ you.
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Apparently Ed P and I think alike to a degree. As soon as I read your post I was thinking...wonder why he doesn't have SeaPro on the list? Check 'em out for value for the $. Out of the ones you have listed, I like what I have seen in the Seaswirl. I would put it up there with the Seapro if not slightly ahead, however I have no direct experience with it. Just impressions only on the Seaswirl. 2 of my neighbors have Sea Pro's and have been very pleased.
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I bought the Hydra-Sports 212WA in '99. Called Seahorse line then, just plain HS now. Price was just below Angler and lower than the others. I wanted the 22' Angler with a bracket, but too much $. More cockpit room that Seaswirl. Pros are price, good layout, price, good construction (no wood after '99), price, wide beam, price, circuit breakers, price, good finish, plastic gas tank. Cons are plastic through hulls, cheap plumbing, single hose clamps, lousy below decks access. IMHO great value at the right price. No major complaints or problems. Plan on a few bucks for plumbing system upgrades.
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Birdman

Just went to the Steiger Craft site and the warranty is NON TRANSFERRABLE!!

Nice boat though, not really a Florida Boat
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Thank you everyone so far. To answer my fellow Long Islander's question, I plan on doing fishing and going to fire island once in awhile. I figure I can sleep in the cuddy with my girl every once in awhile.

I also hear great things about Scout boats, what do you guys think of Scout? What about Edgewater? I think Edgewater is just coming out with a W/A. I'm looking to buy used, a couple of years old.

I saw a Sea Ox for sale in Newsday sounds nice. Outriggers, 1987 Sea Ox, 23' for 14,000. How are the Sea Ox's? I hear they were good back in the early 90's and before.

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Old 08-24-2001, 02:08 PM
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Birdman,

I looked at the Steiger Crafts and they are NICE!!! I loked, they offer both I/O and Outboard. I suppose it's preference, but most South Shore boaters prefer Outboards. Should they? They offer Diesel too? WOW, I'd love a Diesel, anyone have any knowledge of the diesels and are they that mush better than Gas power?
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Honestly, I wouldnt buy any of the boats you listed. There are average at best and tou will suffer major depreciation when you go to sell.

For your first boat, buy soemthing used with a yamaha on the back. You can make all of your mistakes and not worry about banging up the boat(you will bang it up..lol). An old late 1980s early 90s Mako 23 or 26 can be had for somewhere between 15,000 - 30,000.

The yamaha motor will ensure that you enjoy the boat out on the water with out worrying about engine failure or having the boat at the shop.

If you insist on new, buy something like a dusky. It is a good all around boat that is reasonably priced. Is it the best boat out there...No. Is it a good value....Yes.
the 253 FAC is all that you need. Anyway, good luck and remeber the most important thing is to get out there and enjoy it.
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Old 08-24-2001, 03:19 PM
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Perry,

I wanted to suggest a Dusky WA but he's in NJ, and I doubt there would be any around there (or a dealer). Around here, most of them (all of them?) are bought factory-direct. Not a problem if you live in FL, but maybe problematic for a NEaster.

I actually prefer the Dusky, but suggested he look at Sea Pro in hopes he would be able to find one.


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I've had a 2300 Seaswirl Walkabout OB for almost a year and love it. Only problem was a loose clamp on the cuddy water tank. I use mine all year 'round, and because the temp never got below 35 or so, didn't even have to turn on an aux heater...the canvas was cosy and waterproof. No leaks in the hull nor does rain, spray go into the bilge; the scuppers are numerous and well-placed. This boat was obviously designed by fishermen.
Because the cabin is larger than, say, a Bayliner, it's more of a tip-toe around than a Walkabout. But we have a way to launch the anchor from the deck for anchoring in the Columbia river "hog-lines" and that's not a problem.
Mine is an OMC Seaswirl, so it has a Johnson 200 hp OB. I think Genmar is putting on Yamahas or Suzukis. But I've had no probs w/the Johnson
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Bayliner {Trophy] ????
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I would have recommended Sea Ox, but the boats they build now (I don't believe it's North American Fiberglass anymore) are embarassing compared to the 1993 23WA I used to have. It was a solid no-nonsense boat (a la Parker), but with a few more features. Nowadays, take a look at Dusky as well
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Old 08-24-2001, 08:53 PM
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Dusky Dusky Dusky, them things are built like tanks, and none of the fancy stuff, just pure functional fishing machines, I dont think there very many up your way, but make a trip down here, make a vacation of it, look at the boats, take um for test drives, and break it in in a couple of fishing trips. You can get a lot for the money with a dusky, Good luck with your purchase [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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In that list, I like the Seaswirl and the Aquasport. You might also look at the Wellcrafts (some here don't like them, but I like them as a good mid-price boat). Someone probably will let you know if Cape Horn makes a boat in your range.

If you go used, make sure to get a good survey.

The Edgewater would be great, but it is in a different price range and the cabin 22 is new this year.

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If you dont have to have a walkaround, or will settle for a cuddy cabin. I would suggest a whitewater(also a florida). Base price for a 25' hull is 25,100. Add a single 4 stroke f225 for 14k and you have one hell of a boat for 40K.

It is a semi-custom boat and very well made.It has a 24 degree dearise and will run with the best of them. Alot better than a dusky but they dont offer a walkaround.
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No Doubt........Dusky.......Cape Horn!.......... Un matched and worth the money of ALL the boats mentioned!......Please check them out...!!!Davey)))))
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If you are buying used, you can better afford something good. Not trying to offend, but the aquasport and seasquirrel and proline are the only ones I would even consider on your list.
I would also encourage you to step up a couple of notches and look at the older (8-10 years) Grady White, Mako, or SeaCat cuddy hulls with outboards no older than 4 years old.
You'll find that the owners who buy more expensive boats will take better care of them than the mid and lower tier brands, and that your resale and sell time will be much better on these models. Good luck.
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