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Old 06-25-2003, 08:49 PM
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Default A great way to "unstick" frozen TELEFLEX cables.

Did this last year and it worked GREAT!!.My steering cable was sticking and binding SO badly the boat was unusable. The local marina wanted $450!! to install a new cable!.. What I did was this... Took the cable end out of the engine. Took a metal pump up garden sprayer and filled it with a mixture of trans fluid and 5w30 SYNTHETIC motor oil. I had to put a few different size hoses on the sprayer using odd and end pieces of pipe to adapt them together till I had a hose big enough to go around the cable end and a foot or so of the cable sheathing[the black covering of the cable. Making sure my oil mixture was warm and fairly thin, I clamped any and all connections between the sprayer and the cable,pumped it to max pressure and let it sit for fifteen minutes or so. I started working the cable with the steering wheel back and forth. Within a VERY short time that frozen cable came back to life. I looked in side the console by the steering wheel and sure enough the oil had worked its way completely through the cable. I kept working it to get as much crap out of the cable as I could. Disconnected my pump set up hooked her back up to the eng and its been as good as new for a year. Nice and silky smooth. I can still see a bit of the oil near the cable end at times so I know a good amount got into the tiny spaces in the teleflex cable and stayed there. If you try this use synthetic oil. As light as you can get. 5-20 or 5 -30... I saved $450 bucks and my steering works like new. It was just about immovable/frozen solid.... It may sound low brow low rent,,classless,redneck,barnyard and cheap and cheesy but an it worked fabulous for me....bob
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No way... Shesh, you'd be classified as an engineer down here in the south!

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Good Tip. Thanks

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quote: Shesh, you'd be classified as an engineer down here in the south


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Old 06-26-2003, 03:22 AM
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Good work! ----Great engineering!----Everyday boats owners come up with "Great Service Ideas"!---Thanks for sharing this information. -----Greg
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Old 06-26-2003, 04:54 AM
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Bulletbob..I'm not sure I know what a garden sprayer is. Do you mean a "Hudson sprayer" like the pest control guys use? Thanks, Sully

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Great repair. The trick is to 'lube it' before it seizes up. Great to know it can be resurected. Usually there bound up prety good at the motor. Congradulations.

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Old 06-26-2003, 05:50 AM
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Sully.. I think the bug guys use these too. Its all metal with a pump/handle.It can be used for spraying just about any thing. For the Teleflex repair,the small original hose is useless. I took it off,clamped on some rubber fuel hose,stuck that into some heater hose,clamped,stuck the heater hose into some bigger heater hose clamped that, then put it over the motor end of the teleflex cable. The hose has to be big enough around so the metal end of the cable can move. You slide a couple feet of the cable into the hose and clamp it around the black plastic sheathing of the cable. You are now forcing a VERY slick lubricant under pressure through the entire teleflex cable[after pumping the sprayer up of course] .This is the only way you'll get lubricant into those cables. Under high pressure,liquids will go through TINY openings. It worked great! A real eye opener. My cable was WASTED. I'm an auto technician,so I think of stupid crap like this all the time,but they usually BOMB!.. This was a keeper bob
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Default A great way to "unstick" frozen TELEFLEX cables.

Not fa this lil black duck.

Not trying to take anything away from you..because you did achieve something thats perplexed boaters for a long while, and it saved a few sheckles into the bargain...all worthy of merit.

Again this probably isn't the same deal, where you are, due to the number of boats & sea tow to assist...

Down here when your 50 or more out and on ya own...you can't afford to take a risk like that.

How badly compromised is the cable at the spot where it was almost seized - was say 20% of the cable wasted away with corrosion?

Did heaving on it help to hasten any work hardening / or metal fatigue of the cable?

In the event - your feet are to the brazier and your fighting the steering and jockeying the throttles to get home in a shyte mix storm direct from hells gate, you don't want that cable to let you down unexpectedly (like on the bar crossing comming into an inlet).

I read only this week of someone who had a throttle cable failure 60 out, on his own...no help anywhere to be had.

Gerber multi tool to the rescue - swapped the gear cable to the throttle, manually levered the shift lever into forward, and drove it back to port without gearshift..lucky for him it was fine and calm at the time...

Yes, you solved the problem - but will you risk your life on something "unseen" that saved 100 bucks.?

It's all in how you look at things...when your life depends on it 100 bucks is cheap insurance.

If yours is a inshore, protected waters, lake or river boat then likely no biggee...

Just my 2c...please don't take is as knocking your inventiveness, ingenuity, determination or the spirit in which you shared your knowledge, just pointing up apotential pitfall is all.

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Old 06-26-2003, 07:04 PM
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trouty... I guess if i were going to take a 17 1/2 foot boat offshore I might have second thoughts. This is an inshore boat,will probably never be more than 2-3 miles out.It has a brand new kicker with a seperate tank,So I feel I am pretty safe . I am not one to take chances. If a teleflex cable is so badly degraded that its going to snap in the middle,A few drops of oil won't fix it anyway. Severely rusted or frayed cables are not good candidates for any type of repair. They belong in the garbage. However I've seen several that were freed up by various methods that worked great and kept working great. I just wanted to share my fix with someone who might benefit from trying it. Thats why we're here right????? bob
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Couldn't agree more Bob, I think I suggested for inshore, lakes, river, protected waters etc etc it was a great idea...full credit to you for devising the methood and sharing it.

The trouble of course is sometimes in "whats left unsaid"...you n I both know some bozo will try and do this on a single engine no kicker offshore boat and eventually come to grief!

Only the other day I advised someone about thru hulls, seacocks, double clamping the hoses, carrying wooden dowell plugs etc and so forth, and neglected to mention riser loops to stop back syphoning....assuming it went without saying...

Turns out the guy hadn't heard of siphon effect & riser loops...

You can never be too carefull..sometimes you have to state the obvious...

Basically thats all I was tryin to do Bob..no biggee.

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bulletbob, Still a very good idea though.

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Old 06-27-2003, 04:23 AM
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Default A great way to "unstick" frozen TELEFLEX cables.

Thanks bob. Yup, that's a "Hudson sprayer" My cables are fine, I'm just gonna use your idea for preventitive maintenance. I agree with ReelWork..I live in San Antonio too. You're an engineering genius.

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Old 06-27-2003, 04:40 AM
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Default A great way to "unstick" frozen TELEFLEX cables.

If my memory serves me right (and that's a worry these days) my steering cable was fitted in 1994 and hasn't been touched since.

It did have similar treatment but right from straight out of the packet. It got clammped in a vice, run out on the lawn and with a plastic hose clamped around one end was simply gravity fed and over about 24 hours the ATF run out the other end.

Since then it also has had a gravity oiler fitted on the business end of twin outboards.



Bit of a worry really having a steering cable that's 9 years old and never been touched.

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Old 06-27-2003, 05:45 AM
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Default A great way to "unstick" frozen TELEFLEX cables.

Kerry.. I heard about the gravity feed method.That was my inspiration for using the pump up sprayer. Same effect but the sprayer did the job in a very few minutes. bob
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