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Old 10-24-2003, 01:36 PM
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My new boat will is going to come on a loadmaster trailer, dual axel with brakes, and oil bath hubs, of which I have no experience or knowledge of. There is a clear plastic cap over the hub that you can see the oil in. I was told It's the latest and if I don't like I can replace the hub with the grease gun fitting (the official name escapes me at this time). Do I want oil bath hubs, does anyone have experiences with them.

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The hype on them is real good ,big rigs have been using them for years,however whin I ordered my new trailer I was discouraged from getting them.I was tole=d that they are new and may have some problems with rocks breaking the plastic ....
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Gator,

I have a 2002 Loadmaster 7K tandem. I have the oil bath hubs. In 2 seasons of use, they have been completely trouble free. This includes a 1300 mile trip home from Florida to NJ. I have heard of some people with leaking problems, but mine have been excellent.

I highly recommend the Loadmaster trailer. Make sure you get the SS hardware kit and the spare tire mounted on a spare spindle. It may come in handy some day. Replaceable spindles are nice.

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Old 10-24-2003, 02:20 PM
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The hubs are nice and will be fine. I had them on my trailer (now sold) and I thought they were great. Just for fun one day, I took one off and these things are fairly thick, heavy duty plastic. To get them off, I used a pipe wrench and it took a lot of tugging to get it to finally loosen up given the sealant material. In all the pushing/pulling, the cap never cracked or anything, however, I was being somewhat careful.

Anyway, that will have to be one good size rock for it to break the cap (or serious contact with something). Even if it does break, there is a grease fitting already there to help get you home. I liked them and will get them again on my next boat. By the way, the trailer was a Loadmaster and was worth every penny I spent. Good Company with a solid product.
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Oil bath hubs, 1 season, no problems, no maintaince. Buy the way, the're also on a Loadmaster. Same verdict on Loadmaster, no problems, no maintaince. Great trailer, and best price I could find for any trailer.
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Old 10-24-2003, 04:49 PM
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I've got a 2003 Loadmaster, and my spare wheel/hub was leaking. (glad it was the spare)
The plastic cap did not have a good seal on the hub.
I dropped it off at the dealer and they resealed it with some "red" sealer (original was white) and it has been fine.

Its nice to be able to walk around the boat and see the oil, and know your lubed.
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Old 10-26-2003, 01:14 PM
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Just as others have said majority of the oil bath hubs in use do not leak. However, a few have leaked. The advantage is the bearings run cooler, lubrication is in full view and some have reported better mileage towing the larger boats. I think there is still some work being done to perfect the seals. The only disadvantage I see is if you turn sharp into a high curb you could break the cap. I agree with everyone on Loadmaster's quality. Their base trailer has features that most consider options.
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I trailer to and from Fl to MD and the oil bath bearing setup looks good..question..with repeated dunkings, do the inner seals hold up or will the sealing surface on the spindle corrode and the oil leak out?, with conventional setups that is an issue..Mick
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Old 10-27-2003, 06:05 AM
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I'm very dissatisfied with my 2003 Loadmaster. I experienced water intrusion within the first 2-4 uses. At least 2 of 4 caps show emulsified oil already. I've had the trailer less than 3 months. Loadmaster says it's a maintenqance issue and offers no assistance.
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My opinion, oil is not forgiving. Once a seal lets go you have lost all lubrication. At least with grease you will not loose all the lube. Still maintain some lubrication.
Grease adheres to surfaces much better than then oil ever will. If you use the correct grease it will not reach it's dropping point to in excess of 500 degrees. Especially on disc brake setup oil bath will not be able to hold up to the higher temps.
I think there is not enough evidence to prove the oil bath hubs exceed any of the present day greasesd hubs in the marine trailer environment. What is good for trailers on the road may not be what is good for trailers that get their hubs submersed constantly.
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Well I just purchased a new Loadmaster and in the process I was discouraged from going with the oil bath. First off, I have never had any trouble with the old greased hubs on previous trailers...repack them once a year and no problemo, second, water intrusion is a problem with the oil baths and as pointed out than you end up with watery oil that does not lubricate very well. Had not thought about knocking the cap off and dumping the lubricate all over the ground. That's a third reason to stick with traditional grease.

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Went with oil bath last year. Will likely never go back to grease. Problem free and no leaks. First time I have ever had a trailer that didn't sling grease all over the place.
By the way, tried all recommendations, different types of hubs, two different axles and different types of bearing buddies and ensured I did not over pump grease, and they all slung grease. Until I see the first negative on the oil bath, I will opt for oil per my experiences so far. Glad they were an option.
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Old 10-28-2003, 05:35 AM
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I've heard a lot of good reports- makes me feel that I got a defective product. It's somewhat sickening that Loadmaster offers no explanation or assistance.
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I've had oil-bath hubs for a year now with about 3500 miles high-speed along with about 40 salty dunkin's. ZERO problems, ZERO leakage.

I'll never go back to grease on the boat.

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Dean0,

Are you sure you're talking about Loadmaster in Tampa, Fl?

They could not be a better company to work with. When the POS Tie Down brakes crapped out, they gave me Kodiaks. I had to put them on, but they didn't even check my name. They gave me all the stuff to put them on, sight unseen. They asked to return the Tie Down stuff afterwards.

I've bought seals, rotors, pads, etc. All at cost. I've thought about converting to SS Kodiaks and I asked for the price and is way below retail.

If I ever need a new boat trailer, it'll be a Loadmaster.

Let them make it right for you.

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roberth, I have had my current trailer since 1999,with about 8,000 miles on it greased fittings, Mine never has slung grease anywhere. Sounds like you had a defect somewhere!
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I had oil bath hubs on my last trailer and ran them ragged for 3 years...never a bit of a problem. The key to this system working right is a good installation. Cabelas had the hubs available in their catalog for one year & yanked it out the next because people bought them, installed them improperly, they leaked, & Cabelas took the flak.

DeanO..I second the "are you working with Loadmaster in Tampa?" question. In my experience they are willing to bend over backwards to help customers out.

I run a yr 2000 6000# tandem Loadmaster today....nicest trailer I've ever had.
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All I got from Loadmaster was that it's a maintenance issue-- Even after I told them how few times it had been dipped. In fact, I asked if I would have to drain them every 5-6 uses and he said " you get water intrusion into greased hubs too, don't you?" Perhaps I caught him at a bad time. I'll call them again. I hate the idea of spending the weekend jacking up my new trailer and pulling the wheels to change the oil. That's kind of why I bought a new one so I wouldn't have to fool with it for a while.
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Well, You all are no help, it's about half for and half against guess I'll take a shot at them, anyway.
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1 season w/new 7000# LOADMASTER too early to tell about hubs. GREAT TRAILER
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