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Old 01-21-2007, 09:09 AM
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Default Angler Panga vs Pangamarine

I got my bottom spanked in a recent thread when I asked to compare a 23' Pacific tinny with a narrow 26 Pangler with a bracket. But I did find out that while the gas economy was similar, the Pacific was faster and probably stronger, and about 50% more expensive, but had less storage on their 23.

Has anyone had a Test ride on the Pangamarine 26 with the bracket?

Is it the same lenth and weight as the Pangler, is the freeboard as high, does it really have a concave keel pad and 22" of dead rise, is its 8'7" width make it handle different.

It claims to be efficient, but does it really need twin 250's compared to a single 225 on the 7'7" wide Pangler for her extra foot of width, or is this just for drug runner returning home with the cash.

Gas milage-cost comparisions?

Can these 2 be compared?
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Man, you're a real glutton for abuse aint ya? Oh well, you KNOW this forum and you're a big boy.

I am just trying to decide WHICH panga-style boat to buy.
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the panga boys are a tight bunch, at this stage
most of us are on the same panga group, i cant see anyone saying.....
my panga is better than your panga.. we all chose the best one we felt met our needs

pick one you like and they will talk about it all day

mate if ya cant get a panga vs a plate going....how the heck can ya get a panga vs panga going
i cant see it happening

some of us like to tease the flats and gofast guys, but they started it..

have ya heard about the 45ft gofast panga or the 26ft one that runs in 6-8" or the one with 22deg deadrise or how on an inlet a go fast was doing it hard next to a panga doing it easy
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A lot has been published on the Pangler, but not much on the Pangamarine 22 and 28. Both of these have keel pads and claim they are econimic, but they seem to require a lot of horsepower so I wonder if its really worth revisiting the subject as there are 28' deep vees like the competition (old contender mold) that require less HP, seem to be in the same price range, and have more amenities.

One thing that confuses me on the Pangler. Are they 26'+bracket or 28' +motor length or 26' with the bracket? Also, what exactly is the inside freeboard, is there toe room under the rail, and can you put backing plates under your rod holders and coming pads for standup?

Knowing the livewell capacity would also be a help too.
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The pangler is 26.5 long without the bracket. Strictly the hull. No toe room under the rail, No coming pads from the factory, and for the livewell I didn't took that option so I don't know. As far as freeboard I didn't measure.

Nut I am 6.5 and feel totally safe inside
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I realize that both hulls are likely fuel efficient, but there is a big difference in fuel capacity and weight between the two boats.

Angler Panga 26- 81 gallons and weighs 2250#: http://www.anglerboats.com/models/in...?model=26panga

Panga Marine 28- 240 gallons and weighs 4700#: http://www.pangamarine.com/pangaaventura.html


Are the hull bottoms of both of these boats cored instead of solid fiberglass?

And for what's it's worth, the bow of the AP appears sharper than the PM.
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If you look at the pangamarine options page it gives the prices for the hulls motors, seats, baitwells, ttops and trailers. Looks like they add up to more money than the Panglers too.
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The angler Panga, is definitely bare bones, but for the price, you can't ask for a better bang for the buck.
Engine, tabs, T Top, rod holders, rocket launchers, leaning post, after that, just add what you need.
I like that, I added what I needed and wanted and kept the price to a nice range.
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bull........
panga marine are more the quiet achievers, they were the first in america
they're happily building good boats and you dont hear from them much
bit of a shame really, cause i'd like to hear about their new boats

their 22' is the yam hull, the same design as mine, , as you know im as happy as with it
the yam hull has the delta pad and medium constant deadrise

i dont see where your getting require a lot of hp from
a 70hp for 30mph or...... a 140hp for 50mph
both panga marine and andros build the hull with different fitouts
if they arent good figures....i dont know what is


their new 28 ......looks a sweet ride,
im looking forward to seeing a full review on it
is also the yamaha design that their naval designers based it on

it has the delta pad and a deep 22deg deadrise
i think it will be very nice in snot, they have kept the full, seakeeping bow
i cant see anyone stuffing it and will lift a horse
on all the pangas and all boats for that matter there are 2 beam widths, total and waterline
take the gunwale flotation bulge off the measurement and it would be better

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from propgods
the prop report is all i have seen,

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Today, we just ran one with twin 175 Suzuki's. We ran with the the owners, so they wanted to test a little and see what we could get out of her.
I was pretty impressed.
Top end was 50.8 mph running fairly light with 2 and 3 people on board. They are planning to raise the motors a hole or two, to experiment and get it right.
They should gain a little by raising the motors, they are a little low currently.
Holeshot was pretty good as well.

they raised the console up about 8 inches (I'm guessing from looking at it).
and they still have high gunnels, which I like personally.
This one had a T-Top, and the other one didn't.
They tested in the gulf, so when they get to run in smooth bay water, they may get a little better numbers, but I was impressed that they cracked 50.

As I said, they are still playing with the setup a little to see if they can get better.
But all in all, I was impressed.
If I get to run with them after they raise the motors, I'll post it as well.
Take it easy guys
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I was refering to the 28' Pangamarine in my thread, which says max power is twin 250's, where as the Pangler with a bracket is the same length, 1 foot narrower but with a single 225 for max power.

I am assuming that I can by the Pangler with a 225 opti, a trailer, ttop, livebait option for around $41K.

Just the Pangamarine hull is $49K+twins, leaning post, baitwell, ttop and trailer = $90K. Like I said, not much to compare.

The 22 x7 is too small for me I think for trips 50 miles out, so for me its now between the Pangler and the 24' Aluminum cat I have on the drawing boards for the less dough with twin 140's for about the same speed and gas economy, or a used 25' seacat.

The pangler is gonna have to seatrail pretty darn good to beat the cats with trimtabs.

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As time goes on , many of the builders , that build from the Panga design, change one thing or the other , and make modifications to gear the boat towards the American public ....For example, the old Mexican designed Panga had no liner...Most all the companies that build on the Panga design , add a liner to their boats .... The originals did not come with T-Tops either ....Every company offers this also .... The originals were very narrow boats , and a lot of the companies today offer a wider beamed boat and higher gunnels ... One thing to remember ....The bigger, the fancier, and the more mod's done to this design , the price of tea goes up considerably .... There are low tier Panga designed boats, Mid, and High end Panga designed boats ...How big is your wallet ?.... A lot of the boats are designed and MODDED designs ...They are not the real deal , but still work quite well ... When you look at some of the Eduardono Panga designed boats, they are very basic bare bones boats ....The cost reflects that ....Then you take a look at the PangaMarine 28 ft Adventura and you're looking at a a boat that goes for over $70,000 w/ twin 175 Zukes !!..... Again , how big is your wallet ??.... As I stated in another thread, the basic fundemental here is ....You get what you pay for !!...I look at the numbers and realize that when you get up to the higher end Panga designed boats, that you have a lot of other boats price wise to compare to .... Go to a mid tier Angler Panga 26 footer and you have one of the best riding bang for the buck boats out there ...Is it a Contender ??....No !!, but find me a new 26 ft Contender for $40,000 or less !!...... Jim
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BULL,
Just sea trial the Pangler, and you will see what it's all about, allways keep in mind the cost, as Synthnut says, it's one of the best riding bang for the buck.
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catastrophe, i mostly enjoy bullshipper
as you are a bit new, let me say he knows more about anglers than we do....
put his name in search and angler...will be lots and lots of posts

we are going to have this post exchange next month too

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dont know if your numbers are right i havent costed either of them bull shipper

angler and panga marine are both nice but very different boats
and a real buyer would be looking at what he wants in a boat

your the only guy i know who can compare 2 different boats and finish the sentance with a cat
now we have 2 different different boat and one very different boat
cat is you preference, as i know from the very long panga topic we had on mex pangas
im not going down this road again with you

go buy a mexican cat with a single motor,,,,easy
then we can hear how ya flipped it when it cavitated when ya dug a sponson running abeam in in baja gulf
they flipped one while on anchor,,,got the pitch/heel frequency right and over she went ..as told on the baja forum
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As time goes on , many of the builders , that build from the Panga design, change one thing or the other , and make modifications to gear the boat towards the American public ....For example, the old Mexican designed Panga had no liner...Most all the companies that build on the Panga design , add a liner to their boats .... The originals did not come with T-Tops either ....Every company offers this also .... The originals were very narrow boats , and a lot of the companies today offer a wider beamed boat and higher gunnels ... One thing to remember ....The bigger, the fancier, and the more mod's done to this design , the price of tea goes up considerably .... There are low tier Panga designed boats, Mid, and High end Panga designed boats ...How big is your wallet ?.... A lot of the boats are designed and MODDED designs ...They are not the real deal , but still work quite well ... When you look at some of the Eduardono Panga designed boats, they are very basic bare bones boats ....The cost reflects that ....Then you take a look at the PangaMarine 28 ft Adventura and you're looking at a a boat that goes for over $70,000 w/ twin 175 Zukes !!..... Again , how big is your wallet ??.... As I stated in another thread, the basic fundemental here is ....You get what you pay for !!...I look at the numbers and realize that when you get up to the higher end Panga designed boats, that you have a lot of other boats price wise to compare to .... Go to a mid tier Angler Panga 26 footer and you have one of the best riding bang for the buck boats out there ...Is it a Contender ??....No !!, but find me a new 26 ft Contender for $40,000 or less !!...... Jim
Take a Compitition 25 open at 28 loa for $55K with twin 200 hpdi and we are pretty close in price to the panga when equiped with twins.

Pangamarine offer their
hull $50K
twins $35K
Trailer $5K
Ttop $3K
Bait tank seat $650

So dollar for dollar its the Competition in a fast mono, the single engine pangler for a a retired guy with lots of time and a limited fuel budget, and the cat for a beach machine for the el guapos in the world. The Panglamarine just doesn't pencil out IMO.
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The pangler is 26.5 long without the bracket. Strictly the hull. No toe room under the rail, No coming pads from the factory, and for the livewell I didn't took that option so I don't know. As far as freeboard I didn't measure.

Nut I am 6.5 and feel totally safe inside
Look in my pangler pictures. There is a list of all the pertinent measurements. The pangler is VERY basic. You have to add what ever you need. If you are a frills kind of guy that needs everything including a kitchen sink to fish, read no further. Go get something else. If you are handy and don't mind adding some personal touches that suit your needs, read on..
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Thanks for the link Arlon.
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Arlon

I dont see the new 22 Pangler that are in your photos on the Angler site. Do they make em or am I not understanding?
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It's a new boat. As far as I know those are some of the first pictures out of that boat. I'd been bugging Angler for info on the 22 for the last year. I guess they got tired of me because they sent me some of the first pictures available. It is in their line-up but you saw it here first. It will take them awhile to get it on their web site I'm sure. I doubt there are more than a few of them in existance at the moment. Should be one on the floor at Miami boat show. Arlon
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Take a look at this site ....They have a few 22 ft Angler Panga's ....They're really nicely laid out with plenty of nice extra's as standard ....Nice boat !!...Make sure you look at the boats that say 2007 2200 .....They sell various brands of the Panga design ...Make sure it says "Angler" on the boat to make sure of what you are looking at ....Jim

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Jim- any idea on how they are pricing them? Look real nice!
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