Why do Outboard boat owners Sell their boats sooner than inboard diesel owners?

[fillet of soul]

As I looked through the Boat listings. I noticed a disproportionate amount of newer outboards for sale compared to diesel boats. I was curious why the quicker turnover? In the long run if you can't do the maintainance work yourself which one is more costly over the long haul to maintain and which holds value better. A 7 year old 32 ft CC versus a 32 ft diesel express vessel both with twin engines?

[XV2PS]

IMHO Easier to change, cheaper and supposed to last less

[kmac]

For one thing I think their are alot more outboard boats sold in the 30 to 32 foot range than there are inboard deisel now. So mabey thats why it is harder to find a used late model inboard.

[chumhead]

kmac - 1/8/2007 11:34 PM

For one thing I think their are alot more outboard boats sold in the 30 to 32 foot range than there are inboard deisel now. So mabey thats why it is harder to find a used late model inboard.

My thoughts exactly. I was figuring 4 to 1 outboard vs inboard, but I did a quick google search, and according to NMMA, in 2005 there were 213,300 outboard equipped boats sold (all lengths) and only 20,400 inboard boats (all lengths, gas and deisel combined, ski/fish/cruiser combined) They might break it down more, but its already 12:30AM.....lol.....

http://www.nmma.org/facts/boatingsta...es/market1.asp

Cruiser sales have also dropped almost 35% from 11,800 in 2002 to 7,800 in 2005.

chumhead

[Afishinado]

Waay more outboards which are more affordable powerplants..........

But not for long, the $30k (and up) outboards are coming very very soon.

[offshorebri]

Afishinado - 1/9/2007 6:20 AM

Waay more outboards which are more affordable powerplants..........

But not for long, the $30k (and up) outboards are coming very very soon.

New 250 Verado.................20 GRAND

New 240 HP Yanmar...........20 GRAND with ZF GEARS

[Glen E]

lotsa fishing teams sponsored for outboard motors that change every year - esp here in florida....

[wellcraft290]

also i think recently more people are switching from 2 stroke to 4 stroke and if you have the money to spend on new motors it is not that much more to get a new boat with it.
Example:
2001 wellcraft coastal sell with 2 strokes for 100k or replace the outboards to 4 strokes will cost 40k. So sell for 100k and buy a new boat for 40-50k more.

I would chose a new boat... For someone that owns the boat already not really any more money but for a new buyer that is a 50% increase in the price of the boat from 100k to 150k.

[Afishinado]

I think pretty soon you will see a lot of the 4 stroke brainwashed repowers on the market. Boats obviously designed for 2 stroke motors for sale with 4 strokes. Here is an example (for sale BTW near me in FL) a 25 Parker with 130 Hondas... Motors look new except for the portion that won't come out of the water... I wonder how many people can stand in the cockpit with dry feet? You guys that own this boat, is this deck above or below the waterline? I love Parkers, but you couldn't give me this one.

[cgrand]

Afishinado - 1/9/2007 9:03 AM
I love Parkers, but you couldn't give me this one.

honda 130's were/are a "dated" product weight/HP engineering-wise...much heavier than their current 140/150/175 4-stroke counterparts

[Afishinado]

cgrand - 1/9/2007 10:10 AM

honda 130's were/are a "dated" product weight/HP engineering-wise...much heavier than their current 140/150/175 4-stroke counterparts

Yep, that's my point exactly. A lot of experimenting going on.

[Themis Sal]

I normally thought of the Parker 2520 pilothouses as being very well suited to heavy transom weight, to counter the forward weight of the pilothouse itself. However this boat has the waterline above the rear scuppers. Smarter guys than me will chime in I am sure. I wonder if the pictured bracket is holding a lot of water in it?

The newer ones also have a much wider, full bracket, I think.

[1outboard]

Diesels belong in trucks .A life long friend of mine who is a head capt/diver for the Mel Fisher Co. took me for a cruise in a 30 somthing Grady with a diesel whatever motor .After about a 1/2 hr or so I was sick from the fumes .....Nice boat ,right.As long as you stayed foward it wasent so bad but as soon as you went to the rear GAG .

[285exp]

1outboard - 1/9/2007 10:28 AM

Diesels belong in trucks .A life long friend of mine who is a head capt/diver for the Mel Fisher Co. took me for a cruise in a 30 somthing Grady with a diesel whatever motor .After about a 1/2 hr or so I was sick from the fumes .....Nice boat ,right.As long as you stayed foward it wasent so bad but as soon as you went to the rear GAG .

I know other girly men that have the same problem.

[Capt. Dan]

1outboard - 1/9/2007 10:28 AM

Diesels belong in trucks .A life long friend of mine who is a head capt/diver for the Mel Fisher Co. took me for a cruise in a 30 somthing Grady with a diesel whatever motor .After about a 1/2 hr or so I was sick from the fumes .....Nice boat ,right.As long as you stayed foward it wasent so bad but as soon as you went to the rear GAG .

First I've heard of a Grady with diesels.

I'd say another reason you see so many outbaords on the market is that they are smaller boats and people are more likely to get "twofootitis".

[firemedc1560]

Diesel exhaust is not the greatest smell in the world, but when I can leave Boca Raton, fish for 3 days in Lucaya and come home without refueling, I can learn to live with it. The boat is a 32 Luhrs with 300 HP Yanmars.

[finman]

240 yanmar -20 k then install ,props,shafts struts etc . outboards 4 bolts,reconect harness,linkage and steering

[Wolakrab]

Capt. Dan - 1/9/2007 12:08 PM

First I've heard of a Grady with diesels.


I'd say another reason you see so many outbaords on the market is that they are smaller boats and people are more likely to get "twofootitis".

Fished on a 28' Grady in Quepos, CR with a single diesel I/B. Modified locally, like many of the boats that fished there.....most were tired older sportfishers bought in the US and shipped down.
I don't mind the fumes.....and I don't mind paying anywhere from .50 to a buck less for #2 diesel than you will for gas on the water.

[offshorebri]

finman - 1/9/2007 12:01 PM

240 yanmar -20 k then install ,props,shafts struts etc . outboards 4 bolts,reconnect harness,linkage and steering

Now that was an intelligent comeback??????? The price of the Yanmar also includes a gauge package as well, and the Verado???? I suppose the Verado won't need a prop??? Lets not forget that the Yanmar will be better on fuel.........and on top of that the fuel will be cheaper......One last thing ..........call me in ten years when I have 3000 hours on my Yanmar and you are on your THIRD Verado...........hmmmmmm what is 20 grand time 3?????????

[fillet of soul]

That is the million dollar question if you're a weekend warrior you're taking 3 of your 5 weeks vacation to chase the offshore pelagics maybe you get 8-10 canyon trips a year another 20 wreck trips and a some local fishing runs from mid to upper tier boat is the twin diesel boat or the twin CC in the 28-34ft range going to hold up better in terms of operating cost and resale value? I would think the diesel boat would hold up better; I think that the cost of entry is higher in the mid-upper tier twin diesels compared to a CC or cuddy cabin. There are upper tier 28-30 ft CC's what would be an upper tier 28-30 twin diesel I beleive there a lot less choices.