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Old 01-03-2007, 10:02 PM
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are the Bluewater and Dusky 21-25 foot cc comparable ?
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:40 PM
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Absolutely not. Thought they are both FL built fishing boats sold factory direct, they are as different as night and day in design, build, finish, target market, price, resale, and company philosophy. If you can afford it, buy the Bluewater.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:45 PM
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Bob do you not like your Dusky. I love the lines of the Dusky , but never took a ride in one. In NY we dont see many at all . I always like her lines and was considering taking a ride down to check her out a little more.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:58 PM
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They really are different boats. Bluewater is 2 piece, cored, lighter weight, faster. Dusky is 3 piece, solid glass, heavy and slower. Both are "semi custom" and factory direct.

Bluewater was much more money when I was looking but that might have changed.

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Old 01-04-2007, 02:16 AM
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bluewater is the way to go, one of hte best riding hulls on hte water rightnow. Duskys provide solid hulls with no frill ineriors and features. Somewhat wet riding boats but the price diff is major
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Old 01-04-2007, 08:03 AM
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Wet??? I only put on raingear if its raining....hard.

Dusky builds some of the dryest boats out there. Bluewaters do ride great in a headsea, I agree.

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Old 01-04-2007, 11:22 AM
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Bluewater is a deeper v, faster boat but less stable on the drift. Not as roomy with the two piece hull design. Very good interior finish.

The Dusky will be be heavier, not quite as good in a head sea but better on the drift. Roomier but not finished quite as well.

Different boat designs for different needs and tastes.

Dusky's aren't wet boats at all.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:49 AM
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no need to create a stir but from the 3 rides ive taken a dusky i was saturated maybe it was the driver or trim or somethin
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:37 PM
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I had my Bluewater out last week in 15-20 mph winds and was dry until I had to run around Rodriguez Key and took spray broad side. I was very wet also. But I generally don't fish on those days. I was just hauling the boat as my stay at the parents house in the keys had ended. Center console boats can be wet...that is the nature of the beast. If you don't like getting wet buy a Hatteras of something.
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:21 PM
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Never been on a Dusky, but owned 2 Bluewater's. The ride is awesome & the peolpe @ the factory ( Paul, Pete, Jimmy & Charlie ) are great. You won't be dissapointed w/owning one.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:13 PM
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Bob do you not like your Dusky. I love the lines of the Dusky , but never took a ride in one. In NY we dont see many at all . I always like her lines and was considering taking a ride down to check her out a little more.
Some of the other posts sum up the technical differences nicely. I basically comes down to the Bluewater is a higher end boat. There is no comparison in fit and finish, not that Dusky is bad, it's just not up to the finish of most comparable production boats and Bluewater is just a whole lot better...what you would expect at that boat's price point.

I like the Dusky for what it is at its price point. I do not like the company's attitude because they will only fix their factory defects if you bring the boat back to them in Dania, FL regardless of how much of a hardship that is for their customer. They soft-sold that restirction when they sold my boat to me, but I think that was the salesman's fault who is no longer with Dusky. I understand they are more careful to disclose it now. Nevertheless, it bit me and I did not appreciate it. Bluewater will at least authorize a local warranty repair on occasion when it's the right thing to do for the customer. To me that is very important difference when buying factory direct unless you happen to live next to the factory.

If you want to come down, I will be happy to give you a ride. If you go to the Dusky factory, good luck getting a ride...well you might get a short run down their canal if they really like you.

And by the way... I concur that the Dusky is NOT a wet boat. It is a wet boat only if driven by somebody who has no idea how to trim a boat. The only time I get any spray is in a strong crosswind. Any CC on the market will put up spray in those conditions.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:37 AM
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I know this is an old thread but having owned a BW 2350 for over 4 years and putting 6000 hours on it and now owning a Dusky 256 for almost 6 months I'm qualified to comment. I have also fished on the 2550.

I know I may be crucified if I say anything negative about Bluewater, the sympathizers will have to get over it.

The BW is an awesome boat, well built and a great ride. The 2-piece construction, the front step-up and the transom livewell are it's downfalls.
Having no toe relief you cannot get your feet underneath your body. When leaning out over the water I as well as many others on my boat have had my feet loose traction and nearly fall over into the water.

The front step-up may be nice for added room for storage but is a nightmare when chasing a fish around the boat. For me is was not that bad because you get used to it, but for new people on the boat many have tripped going up the step and many have stumbled when hastily stepping down.

The transom livewell is miserable! I ordered my boat will the full transom livewell which helped keeping more live bait but was a nightmare in roughs seas because 50-60 gallons of water sloshing back and forth actually blew out the port side hatch hinges.
I had to baffle the well and create to separate wells, which worked out better because if I only had a small amount of bait I would only flood the center well. But the baffle created a right-angle and the bait would bunch up in the corner, decreasing their life span.

The ride of the Bluewater is it's strong point. Very dry and fast, but will rock-n-roll at rest. When everyone one the boat would go to one side she would list heavily(very heavily) to that side. With a open livewell the bait would sometimes wash out into the water. Great for live chumming, not so great when you're paying $80 a dozen for goggle eyes.

If BW felt these were unimportant issues, why then did they create the "tournament" model with these corrections. They price has skyrocketed as well.

I've soaked to the bone in the BW when the seas were rough and the wind would blow the spray into the boat. This typically only happened with a cross chop and cross wind. Most open boats will experience the same effect in these conditions.

Fit and finish may be a little better on the BW, but not by much. My BW had air voids in the chines near the transom and the keel that once chipped exposed bare fiberglass.

The Dusky is a battle wagon! Heavy and slower than the BW but more stable at rest, I'm typically running less that 20 miles a day so for me the stable drift far outweighed a fast ride to the fishing grounds. A little salt spray never hurt anybody.

The Dusky is not a "wet boat" is it wetter than the BW, absolutely, but when the Dusky gets wet most other open boats will be wet to some degree as well.

My boat has 2 livewells, 60 gallons in the leaning post and 50 built in to the front of the console. Two 1000gph Mayfair cartridge pumps feed each. I can keep "bullet bonitos" in the 60 gallon well with both pumps running, no additional O2 needed. Some may know how difficult it is to keep bonito alive. When they come out of the well they are charged up and ready go. It's the same livewell Bouncer Smith uses on his 33 Dusky.

The Dusky has a level deck and toe relief, I believe it's 3-piece construction, but no sure. I had the rear boxes removed during construction and the storage/fish boxes insulated.
Although the Dusky has the fish boxes on the sides in front of the console, there is no step up and you can easily reach the bow if a fish swims under the boat. I only use the bow cushions when not fishing and the fish boxes are great for seating.

I am comparing the my BW 2350 to the Dusky 256, the Dusky is 3-4 ft larger. I'm running twin Suzuki DF175 and the BW had a single Yamaha F225. The Dusky get better fuel economy than the BW, even with the twins.

I do not know for sure what the top end speed of the Dusky is, I never run WOT except for the last 1/4 mile coming in Jupiter Inlet. To me top end speed is meaningless unless your doing tournaments. Top end and corny boat names may impress the neighbors but they will not help put fish in the boat.

I do not know how to post a photo but my Dusky can be seen at http://www.reelfine.com/Jupiter-Fish...arter-Info.htm



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I added coaming pads to my 2550 Bluewater which created some toe kick and makes a large difference. They will do this at the factory if requested.
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CaptRobMaz,

Nice looking rig.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:58 PM
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Please see the link below. There is a warning about a certain "used" Bluewater boat on the website:
http://www.bluewaterboats.com/
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Capt. Maz, nice, objective post.
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:13 AM
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Enjoyed the objective post. Nice website.

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I agree with Bens2. That's the kind of comparative review that's most informative, no bashing just factual repoting of your experience. Great job and thanks!

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dusky not a wet boat , yea right. My buddy has the 26 dusky with the cuddy cabin . That boat was the worse ride coming back from the berries. No matter how you trimmed. whatever . My wife had to ride with scuba mask on. The last time I'll ever ride in one for any long trips.
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I did have a Dusky have since upgraded to a Pursuit. My boat was a 256css and it was a decent ride for what it was. After having 2 other Dusky boats I was always happy with them, but would get not another. Not enough V.
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