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Old 12-24-2006, 05:51 PM
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what is the weight of a 17 ft whaler montauk?
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Old 12-24-2006, 05:55 PM
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About 1400 pounds w/o engine.
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The 16/17-foot Hull
Dimensions & History
DIMENSIONS (from 1999 Catalogue listings)
Length......................16 feet 7 inches
Beam........................6 feet 2 inches
Draft.......................9 inches (with engine tilted clear of water)
Weight......................850 pounds (Standard) 950 (Montauk)
Maximum horsepower..........100 HP
Minimum Horsepower..........35 HP
Transom Height..............20 inches
Capacity....................7 Persons
Swamped Capacity............2,000 pounds


HISTORY
Designer....................Dick Fisher, Ray Hunt, Bob Dougherty
First year offered..........1961
Last year offered...........Still available!
Color.......................1961 - 1972 White Hull/Blue interior
1973 - 1993 Desert Tan
1991 - 2000 White
M.S.R.P.....................$ 5,000 in 1996 for Base Hull
Models offered
RECREATIONAL
"16" Hull.....1961 - 1976

Currituck...c.1961 - 1975 side console, mahogany (became Sport in '76)
Nauset......c.1961 - c.1973 center console, mahogany, fixed pilot seat
Eastport....c.1961 - c.1973 center console, mahogany, adds rear seat
Sakonnet....c.1961 - 1976 center console, mahogany,
reversible pilot seat
Menemsha....c.1965 - 1972 cabin model
Minot.........1969 - 1972 side console, molded, molded seat
Katama........1969 - 1976 Minot plus canvas windshield, forward seats

Bass Boat.....1971 - 1976 forward pedestal seat
Tashmoo.......1971 - 1973 wide gunwales, molded center console
Cohasset.............1972 pedestal center console, molded,
single pedestal seat
Cohasset II...1972 - 1974 Reversible Pilot Seat
Montauk I.....1973 - 1974 new style center console molded, teak trim
Montauk II....1973 - 1975 bow rail and molded bow platform standard
Newport.......1974 - 1975 wide gunwales, large molded side console

"17" Hull.....1976 - 2002

Sakonnet.............1976 formerly 16-Sakonnet
Bass Boat............1976 formerly 16-Bass Boat; forward pedestal seat

Sport.........1976 - 1983 formerly 16-Currituck; wood side console
Super Sport...1983 - 1989 seat back on rear thwart with storage locker
Super Sport Limited
..........1986 - 1990 molded drop-in interior seating and console
(Sport) GLS...1990 - 1992 side console, molded, no wood

Montauk.......1976 - 1993 formerly 16-Montauk; molded center console,
teak trim
Montauk..............1991 30-year Anniversary limited edition;
white gelcoat with aqua cove stripes
Montauk SE....1992 - 1993 white hull
Montauk..............1994 teak optional; tan hull
Montauk.......1995 - 2002 white hull and deck, no wood

Newport.......1976 - 1990 formerly 16-Newport
Striper.......1980 - 1989 (replaced Bass boat) forward pedestal seat

Standard .....1996 - 2000 small side console, seat, molded
COMMERCIAL
Utility.......1983 - 2000 bare boat
Alert.........1983 - 2000
Guardian......1983 - 2000 (Montauk style)

SERIAL NUMBERS
1961-1962...........3000 thru 3999
1962-1963...........30000 thru 31499
1963...........31500 thru 31600
1964...........31601 thru 33000
1965...........33001 thru 34399
1966...........34400 thru 35800
1967...........35801 thru 37600
1968...........37601 thru 39750
1969...........39751 thru 3A1300
1970...........3A1301 thru 3A4100
1971...........3A4101 thru 3A5200
1972...........3A5201 thru 3A6700 (last blue hull 3A6250)

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Old 12-24-2006, 06:23 PM
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Tarbaby,

Now, that's an answer. I'd assume if he was asking about the current model he just look at Whaler's site.
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Old 12-25-2006, 12:42 AM
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Yea, a classic Montauk weighs much less than a new 170 Montauk.
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Tarbaby

Could you give us that info with each available 70 to 90 hp motor please
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I am going to go ahead and say I have a problem mine wieghs almost 2000 pounds!!!! I guess its time to gut it and get all the water soaked foam out!
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That would be close to 200 gal. of water. I don't think there is that much volume in the foam to accomodate that much water. What year are we talking about? Also, you can't gut it. The foam is the structure and the gel coat is only the skin. You could drill drain holes. That much water would come pouring out.
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Old 12-25-2006, 01:14 PM
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About 1400 pounds w/o engine.
In three years it will weigh over 2000 pounds... Go figure that one out!
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Old 12-25-2006, 02:48 PM
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kid stuff it would be somewhere in the ball park of 80 gallons minus the engine battery and gas tank. I had some delamination on the floor when I boat it 4 years ago and and just ground it out and re expoxied. I guss the damage was already done. Just what I wanted to do this winter get covered in fibergalss grindings!!!
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anyone ever try to hook a continious vacuum pump up to a boat to suck the water out?
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Old 12-25-2006, 06:16 PM
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Do yourself a favor. Go over to continuouswave.com/whaler/ to find out the best next step. Amongst those Whaler nuts over there you'll find a few that have gone through what you're facing. Those guys are better than a dealer or the factory for great advice on taking care of Whalers.
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Old 12-25-2006, 11:59 PM
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2000 pounds for what? Does that include, motor, trailer, batteries, full tank of gas, gear,? Why do you think you have water i the foam? Did you crack through the green layer and expose the foam underneath the hull or anywhere else? Did yo tap around to hear for diffenences in sound?

YOu are not telling us enough to help you. 2,000 for boat, motor trailer, gear and gas is not that far off.
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:10 PM
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wombat The 2000 pound represents the hull, engine (2002 50 hp merc.) , console . The battery, gas tank and all the gear was taken out. I have a coupld hundred pound accounted for. also the boat has been sluggish.
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I think most of BW's problems can be traced to their sorry-a#$%^ brass drain tubes that they insisted on using. If that is not bad enough, they used rubber O-rings behind them. They need to be replaced regularly, or you will need to rename your boat "sponge-bob."
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I don't know what the big deal is. Judging from your title, you are a 100 ton captain. Even at these absorption rates, you should be well inside of your license for years to come! On a more serious note, 50HP on a Montauk is severely underpowered. Most Montauks have a minimum of 70, and prefereably 90-115. (I think the top rating is 100, but lots of folks put the 115's on anyway.) I'm wondering if that is part of your problem.
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Tunatango-Butch Davis gave you the best advise! If you want to know anything about classic whalers go to continouswave.com!!!
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continuouswave.com or not, you are not going to vacuum pump, drip dry, or suck that much water from a waterlogged hull, be it whaler or another brand. also, as has been stated here numerous times, you start digging too much foam out of a whaler-type hull and you run the very real risk of messing with the strutural integrity of the hull itslef. its probably time to get as much enjoyment out of that hull you can in its present condition and then move on to another boat.
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You're sure about that, Bob? I've heard from some Whaler guys that if one knows how, drilling a few judisiously placed drain holes can result in a relatively dry hull over time. Time being dependant on the amount of water to be drained. Saving a 17 Whaler, for some, is a worthwhile endeavor.
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The weight of a Boston Whaler Montauk 17 is dependent upon what year we are talking about and not just if it is a "classic" Montauk or a newer Montauk 170. The weights increased gradually over the years as Whaler's hull construction has become more and more robust.

The data Tarbaby quoted above is copied directly from ContinuousWave.com and is the work of Jim Hebert. It would have been nice of Tarbaby had given correct attribution.

I have connected a vacuum pump up to a waterlogged Whaler hull and let it run for days as an experiment to see if water could be extracted for a soggy hull. The vacuum did not remove significant water from the hull. This technique will not work. Feel free to read quite a bit of research I have undertaken on this subject starting here:

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001747.html
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