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Old 12-10-2006, 05:47 PM
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Default 27 Tiara open

Looking at a few mid eightys to 1992 tiara 27`s with two 350 chevy gas motors,looks like a nice boat for the money,anyone have any info on this type of boat for light fishing inshore with a few offshore trips.
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Ran mine for almost 5 years. Good all around boat, easy to get to most items in the boat. I had a great time with mine for over 1000 hrs of which 95% were offshore. Ask away.
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i run an '87. i love the boat. here is my synopsis...

1. build quality is truly excellent
2. ride is very good...head sea i would say 'above average'; beam sea i would say 'above average'; following sea i would say 'excellent'
3. stability while drifting is above average (22 deadrise is a good compromise between ride & stability & it shows in this boat).
4. cockpit layout is great, plenty of room to fish 4 people, mine has the twin insulated fish boxes over the engines, some have one chest, others have none, but there were actually quite a big variety of setups tiara used for this area over the years. i think you should pay attention to this when looking at particular boats.
5. boat moves along pretty fast w/the twin 5.7Ls...which accounts for 90%+ of the boats you'll see. i see about 27mph @ 3000rpm & burn about 20gph at that speed. mpg goes down significantly above that speed as the secondaries open and stay open somewhere around 30mph...expect 1mpg above 30mph. this is for carbed motors, my impression is that the mpi engines have the same burn at cruise but that over 30mph the burn is more efficient than the carbed motors. top end is probably 40mph...i haven't pushed mine over 4000rpm, i think i've had it to 37mph or so on the rare occassion.
6. boat trolls great with an extremely clean wake
7. has plenty of room for 2 people to spend a weekend aboard...i've spent a week aboard w/my girlfriend who is picky and it was fine.
8. the ride is wet...which is why the large windshield was designed in and the canvas usually comes down to the windshield. this isn't an issue for me as i think it is just a tradeoff for the comfortable ride.
9. the helm is great, you can drive the boat sitting down 90% of the time.
10. it handles like a dream around the dock
11. the low cruise rpm--typically 3000rpm--makes the motors last a long time. i have ~1,300 hours on mine...when i bought the boat 2 years ago i planned on repowering it, but just haven't been able to rationalize it.
12. it has the best non-skid decks of any boat i've ever been on. it hurts to kneel on it.
13. as i said, diesels are pretty rare for this boat (actually anything other than the T 5.7L are very rare). i looked into one w/twin diesels (can't remember the exact engines) but the burn was the same as the gas! at least according to the broker! maybe he was wrong? maybe he was right and it's why you don't see diesels?
14. i do all my own maintenance and have been over every square inch of the boat. i would say access is great...for a boat.

i'm sure there's more, that's all i can think of off the top of my head. i have run the boat offshore many times over the past two times and sometimes in weather i would have preferred not be in and i've always been impressed with the way she runs. i have collected several reviews (including a very recent 'Tried & True' article out of Offshore magazine), ads, etc if you're interested i can email you. i also have the user's manual pdf that i can send. any particular questions, just ask.

did i mention i love the boat?
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i run an '87. i love the boat. here is my synopsis...

1. build quality is truly excellent
2. ride is very good...head sea i would say 'above average'; beam sea i would say 'above average'; following sea i would say 'excellent'
3. stability while drifting is above average (22 deadrise is a good compromise between ride & stability & it shows in this boat).
4. cockpit layout is great, plenty of room to fish 4 people, mine has the twin insulated fish boxes over the engines, some have one chest, others have none, but there were actually quite a big variety of setups tiara used for this area over the years. i think you should pay attention to this when looking at particular boats.
5. boat moves along pretty fast w/the twin 5.7Ls...which accounts for 90%+ of the boats you'll see. i see about 27mph @ 3000rpm & burn about 20gph at that speed. mpg goes down significantly above that speed as the secondaries open and stay open somewhere around 30mph...expect 1mpg above 30mph. this is for carbed motors, my impression is that the mpi engines have the same burn at cruise but that over 30mph the burn is more efficient than the carbed motors. top end is probably 40mph...i haven't pushed mine over 4000rpm, i think i've had it to 37mph or so on the rare occassion.
6. boat trolls great with an extremely clean wake
7. has plenty of room for 2 people to spend a weekend aboard...i've spent a week aboard w/my girlfriend who is picky and it was fine.
8. the ride is wet...which is why the large windshield was designed in and the canvas usually comes down to the windshield. this isn't an issue for me as i think it is just a tradeoff for the comfortable ride.
9. the helm is great, you can drive the boat sitting down 90% of the time.
10. it handles like a dream around the dock
11. the low cruise rpm--typically 3000rpm--makes the motors last a long time. i have ~1,300 hours on mine...when i bought the boat 2 years ago i planned on repowering it, but just haven't been able to rationalize it.
12. it has the best non-skid decks of any boat i've ever been on. it hurts to kneel on it.
13. as i said, diesels are pretty rare for this boat (actually anything other than the T 5.7L are very rare). i looked into one w/twin diesels (can't remember the exact engines) but the burn was the same as the gas! at least according to the broker! maybe he was wrong? maybe he was right and it's why you don't see diesels?
14. i do all my own maintenance and have been over every square inch of the boat. i would say access is great...for a boat.

i'm sure there's more, that's all i can think of off the top of my head. i have run the boat offshore many times over the past two times and sometimes in weather i would have preferred not be in and i've always been impressed with the way she runs. i have collected several reviews (including a very recent 'Tried & True' article out of Offshore magazine), ads, etc if you're interested i can email you. i also have the user's manual pdf that i can send. any particular questions, just ask.

did i mention i love the boat?
He didn't mention that his 87 has no creaks cracks or shudders running in slop very immpressive for a 5 yr old boat His is 19 pretty outstanding imho
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Old 12-11-2006, 08:26 AM
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I run an '85, original Crusaders. Only thing I dont like is no in floor fish boxes. The insulated boxes over the engines are nice dry storage but get a little warm after a few hours, I would never put ice in there. I would write more but chainsaw did it for me - his comments are spot on. Oh, Ubettcha's too. No creaks of cracks - still shiney too. Read Pascoes comments - he likes 'em too.
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I have a 29 Open it's a great boat for my needs. It's not a rocket, but cruises an honest 20 knots @ 3300 RPM and can do this through most seas that I encounter. On occasion I do need to drop it down, usually to make it more comfortable for me. The full windshield and canvas help keep me dry. As mentioned above that it gets thirsty.
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Old 12-11-2006, 12:00 PM
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I have fished a 29' Tiara in Costa Rica and even though it was old and well used I was impressed by the overall quality.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:31 PM
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29 is a much different boat. beamier, heavier, more of a cruiser, much more plush. 27 is faster, more deadrise & much more of a fisherman. in fact they did label some of the 2700s as pursuits and they even had a center console/cuddy version of the same boat (not very popular though).

Rich, right-on, i can't believe she's going to turn 20 this year...i will have to do something nice for her 20th like let her stretch her legs and take her to the egde!
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Old 12-11-2006, 02:15 PM
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That is a beautiful boat chainsaw to say the least.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:32 PM
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Thanks guys for the great info,how is it to work on say motors ,trans and how about getting to the fuel tank?
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Old 12-11-2006, 06:50 PM
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access to the motors is good for this size boat. the engine room itself is pretty cramped with the batteries, holding tank & fresh water/hot water heater taking up all the room between the engines. the boxes slide aft to allow access to 'view' the top of the motors...and then you can lift off the piece directly over the motors to gain full access. one man job. the deck over the tank is a single piece screwed down to the cockpit liner...no cutting required!
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:27 PM
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Do they have fiberglass gas tanks? Many boats of that vintage to and you need to replace them due to the E10 gas dissolving the fiberglass.
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no, the tank is aluminum...most of them have a single 240 gallon tank, although i know there was a long range tank available (275gallons), although i have never actually seen one w/it, and i believe i have seen some earlier models w/twin tanks of different sizes--not sure about this though.

also, i would add that the factory is still willing to give support for these boats, even 20 years after they were made. pretty impressive. if you give them a hull ID they will give you the build schedule for that boat detailing all the options it left the factory with.
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Mine has two 89 gal tanks Date on capacity label is the same year as boat so I think they are original. Installation is nice. bolted to the stringers with welded on brackets. air fully circulates around the tank. You can stick your head down in the lazarette and with a mirror, inspect the bottom of the tanks. I pulled mine a few years ago, cleaned 'em up and painted them with epoxy, should be good for another 20 years.
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Frank, actually very few boats of that vintage had fiberglass tanks. All Bertrams did but not many others.

My 27 had custom engine boxes and they absolutely made the boat. Great storage. I did not have a hot water heater, wasn't needed and needed the room. Easy enough to get hot water from the engines.



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29 is a much different boat. beamier, heavier, more of a cruiser, much more plush. 27 is faster, more deadrise & much more of a fisherman.
Yes it is different, but I don't think it's "plush". It makes an excellent fishing platform which we use it as frequently. It has decent cabin amenities that allow 2 people to stay on it (which we do every weekend) without stepping all over each other.

The cockpit measures roughly 6X10 allowing 4 people to fish pretty easily. More than that can get crowded.

I find the Open series is a good fishing boat with enough comforts to keep the boss happy.
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Old 12-12-2006, 12:09 PM
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12. it has the best non-skid decks of any boat i've ever been on. it hurts to kneel on it.
That's one of the downfall's. It hurt's. My buddies got .9mpg 3000RPM. Lot's of crapy bottom paint on his. It was dry stacked when he had it.
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My 1989 27 SL2 has been my 2nd love (as far as boats go) for 6 years now. My 21 Dixie was my first, but she broke my heart with that I/O after a five year relationship! I bought John's Joy from a great 'ol Italian guy in Toms River, N.J. who had nothing better to do that to clean his boat which only had only 400 hours on the clocks when I purchased her - I found her at his garage sale! I currently have 840 hours on her and it's wasn't without a considerable investment and a summer of elbow grease. I replaced the elbows, risers, manifolds, fuel pumps, resealed all valve covers, complete secondary ignition systems w/coils, throttle/shifter cables, one shaft, all of the packings, and the list goes on to a tune of $5k back in 2008. It took me from Easter to two weeks before Labor Day to complete everything. One needs to do all this due to the age of the boat, not the hours. It all went flawlessly thanks to my 30 years + experience of turning wrenches professionally. Since then she's been a dream, no breakdowns, 'turn key condition' and never missed a beat for the past 4 seasons. I removed the hot water heater-do we really need hot water? Now I'm refinishing all the Exterior Teak, the interior is mint, thanks to John. As far as fishing, I can go deep, usually with three including myself for the extra room ion the deck - four is comfortable also, but I suggest to have one guy fish the bow. With a fuel capacity of 240 gallons with twin 350 Crusaders, I can go out as far the Canyons, but why put that wear and tear on man and machine? As far as pep goes, '0' to 'on plane' in 6 seconds and cruising at 25 knots @ 3,100 RPM's thanks to my prop guy. My wife is a big fan when I turn her into 'Cruising Mode' when we go to Tice's Shoal at IBSP, check out the 4th of July Fireworks display on Toms River, or justy simply cruising around here in New Jersey when I install the five piece sectional that John had installed when he owned this beauty. And - Oh yeah! The Non-Skid surface IS second to NONE! Hope this helped you with your decision.
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