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Old 11-26-2006, 02:19 PM
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Anyone know the process of getting wide load permits for towing a boat with a beam over 9ft, and going from state to state?
Is there a permit required for every state you travel through ??? and whats the cost ???
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My Georgia DOT wide load 110K lb permit costs, I think, around $1200 per year.
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How much larger than the 8'6" (limit in most states) is the beam? I've heard of people towing up to 11' without special permits, nobody bothers them (commercial parasail boat). My inflatable is 10' fully inflated, and I plan to tow it like that. Just make sure you use far right lane on toll roads for some extra room. Good luck
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You have to have a permmit for each State. You can get most of them on-line. For a week most run 10.00 to 25.00 that I have purchased. I pay $100.00 for a year here in SC.

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Old 11-26-2006, 05:36 PM
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You have to have a permmit for each State. You can get most of them on-line. For a week most run 10.00 to 25.00 that I have purchased. I pay $100.00 for a year here in SC.

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Any chance you have a link for me, and is there one for each state ???
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I just Google the state with DOT after it. Sorry I never book marked the sites.

I know SC GA and Fla has them on line. I have gotten AL, MS and LA by phone and fax.

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Since there's no more ICC, it's every State for themselves. I pull cross country and I need to get a fax permit at the first port of entry (weigh station). Flying J's and Pilot truck stops have the necessary paperwork and they'll fax it for me.
In GA, it's a one-time fee for the year; In FL, it's per trip.
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In Florida, you can buy annual permits. Up to 10' beam and legal length and height, it costs $20/year. Over 10' beam it costs $300/year.

If you plan to run more than 3-4 states, go online and find a permit service to get all of them for you. They charge a small premium, but they do all the legwork. Also be advised that some statesrequire advance proof of insurance, and some (like GA) require that you list them as a party on the insurance (at least I had to for my annual permit with a 10'6" beam and legal height and length).

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hawknest00 - 11/26/2006 6:17 PM In GA, it's a one-time fee for the year; In FL, it's per trip.
Not correct for Florida.

Harry's information is correct.

Here is the website for Florida information: http://www.fdotmaint.com/permit/

And here is the website for an agency that will obtain multistate permits for you: http://www.tcpermitservice.com/
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In Florida, you can buy annual permits. Up to 10' beam and legal length and height, it costs $20/year. Over 10' beam it costs $300/year.

If you plan to run more than 3-4 states, go online and find a permit service to get all of them for you. They charge a small premium, but they do all the legwork. Also be advised that some statesrequire advance proof of insurance, and some (like GA) require that you list them as a party on the insurance (at least I had to for my annual permit with a 10'6" beam and legal height and length).

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This is absolutely correct.
I have been working hard at over width permits and the general rules are - 8.5-10' is a small feet from state to state. Anything from 10-12 is a 300 dollar fee (more or less - varies from state to state). Anything above 12' is a whole different ball game.

I do caution though , that each state has different requirements for each of the three wide load classes. For instance, Florida requires 12x12" flags on each corner for loads in excess of 8.5' but does not require any special flashing lights. Illinois does require the flashing lights and requires 18" flags.

All states do say "day driving" Only.. and some say yes and no to weekend/holiday depending on the width....... I have florida, illinois.. and maybe some of georgia info handy - pm me if you need info..

It shouldn't be a big deal b/c they only look to ticket commerial vehicles for these type of offenses and not privates (and your towing a boat!)... On the other hand - ONe time permits are btw 5 and 10 dollars per state. so maybe a worthwhile purchase!
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Florida requires flags and lights over 10'. Also, no nights or weekends. FL DOT has been known to stop offenders, but more importantly, if you run a permit load without a permit or outside the permit rules and you cause an accident, someone is going to own you.

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Here is the FL Link..

http://fac.dos.state.fl.us/faconline/chapter14.pdf

Section 14-26.012 Is the particular area of interest oh and Harry - flags... lights and a "wide load sign" when over 10'..

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Wicho - I have been working hard at over width permits and the general rules are - 8.5-10' is a small feet from state to state. Anything from 10-12 is a 300 dollar fee (more or less - varies from state to state). Anything above 12' is a whole different ball game.

Florida requires 12x12" flags on each corner for loads in excess of 8.5' but does not require any special flashing lights.
My point was that lights ARE sometimes required...you didn't metion banners, so I didn't comment on them. FWIW, I have a "Oversize Load" metal folding banner screwed on the back of my trailer with brackets and a vinyl coated cloth banner for the front of the truck. I also have brakes on all axles (also required in FL for trailers with over 3K total load). I run the amber lights on the truck cab and the rear of the boat so they can be seen from all directions, plus orange/red flags at the 4 widest corners of the load. And my truck has a 26000 lb GCVWR, too.

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Unless I'm reading the rules wrong up to 10' (> 8.5) requires a permit and flags, and over 10' requires lights and signs as well. If you get truly obscene (or too high) you also require escort(s).

This is all FLorida specific - its different from state to state.
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Thanks Harry - Can I ask a question - Do you know a good source for the lights (non permanent mount) and maybe some flags - I need to buy some...

Good clarification - I didn't know about the brakes.... .. I need to read up on those too - Are all break controllers the same? I'm planning on buying a chevy 2500D...

DOn't mean to hijack the thread.... !

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Old 11-27-2006, 12:54 AM
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I run surge brakes, so no controller. You can get electric over hydraulic brake units that mount on the bumper if you want to go that route.

As for lights, flags, and banners, I use AW Direct at http://www.awdirect.com/ There are probably cheaper sources, but these guys send me a catalog every quarter and usually have everything in stock. They have magnetic mount amber lights that will work on the cab and plug into the lighter socket. They also have suction cup styles that you can add aligator clips on to so you can run them off the boat battery and mount them on the fiberglass.

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Wicho - 11/26/2006 11:50 PM

Thanks Harry - Can I ask a question - Do you know a good source for the lights (non permanent mount) and maybe some flags - I need to buy some...

Good clarification - I didn't know about the brakes.... .. I need to read up on those too - Are all break controllers the same? I'm planning on buying a chevy 2500D...

DOn't mean to hijack the thread.... !

Cheers - wp.
Check around some of the truck stops for lights.I had found them there cheap.Do check the web for services for permits.I saves alot of time for a small fee.I had pulled wide loads from Fla to La,each state is different,but NO towing at night or thru construction zones.When asked from were to were,they will plot your course from state to state.You will need insurance and Lic plate numbers from trailer and tow truck.
Make your own banner out of a piece of red cloth,paint wide load across and duct tape it across the transom.Flags,use some of that red cloth,tape it to some pvc piping,tape it in place were you need it.Works great and cheap!
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Most states require Yellow with Black lettering for banners.

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I get them for the 9'6" beam Parker in MD and VA a couple of times each year. Once for a Nov/Dec trip to fish the CBBT at Norfolk VA, and once for taking it to Tri-State Marine in Deale, MD for its annual service/winterization. The VA permits are 100% on-line, while MD is attempting (poorly) to make the move. I show up in person at a local SHA facility to purchase them. Both states require flags on the corners, and wide-load signs front and back.
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