Value of Johnson Ocean Pro 150's

[Eastbound]

I'm just curious as to the value of a pair of 2000 Johnson Ocean Pro 150's? They do have stainless steal props, and have about 600 hours on them. Controls and instruments are also included in a figure if possible.

They do run, but considering going up to the Zuke 175 if possible?? The boats a 26 Glacier Bay. Thanks,

[jupiterzeke]

What possible excuse could you have to trade 00/150 Johnsons for gutless jap 4stroke even though suki is the best of the gutless jap 4 strokes???? Jupiterzeke

[prockvoan]

You better look at the boats rated hp cap.300 hp max on that boat.

[Eastbound]

Can't stand the fuel burn numbers anymore and the smoke is starting to get old.

The boat is actually my step fathers, and he's working with a local dealer around here on a possible trade or re-sale of the Johnson's and upgrading to the Zukes. I didn't realize the max hp was 300 though. Guess it'll be the 150's again then!!

[Eastbound]

Help.

[tommyr904]

if theres no warranty left on the hull put what you want on it there is not much difference in the 150 or 175.

[eddy2419]

Overpowering will result in a fine in many states.

[eddy2419]

If they are the old style carb models go to NADA and check the value. If they are Fichts pull the props and put them in a garbage can. Then pay someone to haul off the old motors. Then retreive the props from the garbage can and put them on ebay.

[SCAngler]

are the existing engines running good ? if so keep them as it will take how long to recoup
the cost of the suzukis ? you can burn alot of fuel for 20 + grand.

now if you just want new engines ...the suzukis are very good so go for it.

[Eastbound]

I know it's hard to justify, but we will be using the boat everyday to check on a house we are building over on Daufuskie Island. So the reliability factor is huge, and beside that we don't even have a mechanic around here anymore that works on Johnson's or Evinrudes. I think the closet one is in Savannah or Beaufort and dragging that thing down the road every time will get old quick!! Hilton Head is a small Island.

I'll check the NADA. Thanks, for all the help.

[tg]

eddy2419 - 11/14/2006 11:27 PM

Overpowering will result in a fine in many states.

From whom?

[eddy2419]

Alabama for one. Ohio is another.

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From the Ohio DNR web site:

Capacity Plates
(ORC 1547.39 & ORC 1547-40)
No person shall operate or permit operation of a watercraft in excess of any of the stated limits on the capacity plate. When no capacity plate exists, no person shall operate or permit operation of a watercraft if a reasonably prudent person would believe the total load aboard or the total horsepower of any motor or engine presents a risk of physical harm to persons or property.

No person shall alter, remove, or deface any information on the capacity plate.

Also from CHAPMAN PILOTING page 68:

..."Although it is not a violation of federal law for a boat operator to exceed the values displayed on USCG Maximum Capacities label, there may be local consequences. Some states, for example, consider overloading or overpowering a boat beyond the values shown on the label a violation, and may cite an operator who exceeds posted limits."...
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[tg]

I believe the law requiring a "capacity plate" only applies to boats under 20'.

[eddy2419]

Nope, not just under 20ft. All boats that are required to have a plate by the USCG.

[tg]

You may want to check again...look under Title 33.

[capt_dalton]

While you're at it, look up how many people have been fined for such. Pretty much an unenforced law.

If the old engines are in decent shape, you should have no problem moving them, especially with all of the controls going with. For grins, figure up the weight difference of the 2 strokes to fours.

I'd be surprised if someone on the board isn't running the same set up, or knows someone who is.

So far as capacity plates, I know of builders who have sent new plates to friends who have exceeded, by small amounts, the existing capacity plate, or sticker, max horsepower.

[eddy2419]

You may want to see if it violates your insurance coverage.

[eddy2419]

Even if no tickets are written, you will be in a very difficult situation if you were in an accident and had to go to court.


http://www.boat-ed.com/abc/abc_speci...dfs/al_law.pdf

Unlawful and Dangerous Operation

Alabama law designates certain dangerous operating practices as illegal. The
following are examples of illegal and dangerous operation.
Reckless Operation of a vessel, or reckless manipulation of water skis or
similar devices, is the failure to exercise the care necessary to protect the life,
safety or property of others. Some examples of reckless operation are:


Overloading or Overpowering is loading the vessel with passengers or gear
beyond the recommended capacity shown on the capacity plate (taking into
consideration weather and existing conditions) or powering a vessel beyond the
recommended horsepower shown on the capacity plate. It is illegal to operate,
or allow others to operate, a vessel without a permanent capacity plate.

[tg]

Chapter 2 of the publication you link to spells out the Federal law...boats less than 20'. It's unclear to me that Alabama has a stricter law.

[prockvoan]

The biggest factor is going to be insurance.I don't think you could get any if you over power a boat above its rated plate.Oh,they do ask!