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Old 11-12-2006, 11:07 PM
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Default Best 35-38 foot Open Boats

What are the best boats in this size range that have a blend of about 75% fishing boat and 25% family cruiser. I am not looking to deal the Pursuit any time soon but am always looking at that next potential boat. The convertible thing is nice with our climate in the NW but I want a boat that me and the old man can fish just the 2 of us pretty easy.

The boats that come to mind and I am looking forward to spending time on at the miami show are the 35 Carolina Classic, 35 Cabo, 36 Tiara TTS. The Carolina seems to be the best value and while the Cabo wins in the fit and finish category the price is absurd. The Tiara is an obvious choice but I don't like the port holes on the hull and it is more at 75% cruiser and 25% fishboat. I would much rather sit at the docks of the resort with a die hard fishing machine that eats up the ocean than have a boat that fishes like crap and looks even more out of place in the ocean.

Also I would like a boat that runs nice at 20-25knots in 4 footers spaced about 8 seconds apart.

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I'd check out a rampage 38.

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I fish the 35 Cabo Express regularly and it is well made. I would seriously look at finding a good surveyor and seek out used in that category because the prices have doubled in the last couple of years and you can buy a couple three four year old boat at half the cost of new. If you want new then look at the Intrepids(outboards), Carolinas(inboards) and the 36 Bertram Express if you hit lotto. The other boat that is really strong would be the Strike but you don't hear much on the boards about them. Sea Vee and Island Runner both can make a hell of a 34 or 35 single or twin inboard diesel as well! Good luck with your search. I can't give up cruise speeds in my working mans time frame so I have ordered a 32 Intrepidad and don't anticipate going toward an express boat until my kids get to HS maybe college!
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:07 AM
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Donkey-punch. Good name I actually know what that is. Good stuff. Just something about Rampage I don't like. They just don't do it for me. Of course Cabo will always be on the list. Golfcane as for the brands menioned, they are all nice and top of their food chain. But if I am going outboards then I can't do better then our Pursuit that is factory specd to our liking and just fits inside its heated garage on the trailer. The next boat that I am interested in and wasted internet time looking at would be a diesel inboard powered boat to be kept in a boat house on the water. The marina nearest where I live is very large and has them. They are buildings on the water that you own and lease the space from the port. The nice ones have a loft and lots of space to store your things and it keeps the boat clean above and below the water line because without sun it is hard for marine growth to move very quickly. So far the Carolina looks the best for performance and value but I assume its fit and finish must be similar to the 30 foot albemarle's. Nice but not top tier IMO. Maybe I will find one of the few 38 Pursuit Offshores on the market in a few years. A used 35 Cabo could also be in the mix if the price is reasonable as their is no question that they are well made. The 36 Tiara with TTS also could keep my brand loyalty. So many choices....
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It is all good! Have fun shopping. I'm all for boat condos too! There is such a different world going to a "smaller" inboard as opposed to the 50+ battle wagons. You would do well to talk to the local diesel engine coop if you have one and ask them in that range which boats are better or easier to work on. I don't know your style of fishing over there so maybe charter an express and see if you really think 2 could fish it. We usually fish 3 to 5 people on the Cabo and it is almost impossible to kite fish on the boat with only 2 people because of where the helm station is and the proximity of other boats from time to time when there is a good run on. Never seems to be a problem in the single level deck CC's.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:14 AM
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I had (still have) a 3070 offshore CC. We spend the night out on the water more than we thought when we purchased the pursuit. Looked at lots of express boats. Cabo. Tiara. Topaz. Rampage. I ended up with a 36 Luhrs. Heavier than all of the aforementioned, great head sea ride, large cockpit and cabin. The boat has it where it counts, is economical, and runs with the big boys. Love it like I love the pursuit.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:23 AM
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Thanks Golf. We would either be mooching or trolling for King Salmon as our primary fishing. That does not involve more than 2 lines usually on downriggers so with trolling valves you wouldn't think it would be too bad. We are already a little on the big side for some of the fishing grounds but a boat that size shouldn't be too different. Last when fishing in tight areas with other boats the double headers did get a bit tricky. But that was half the fun. What specifically do you speak of in regards to the smaller inboard boats. A 35 seems to be a nice size but I don't have any experience. I do not want to go big because of cost to use and the time factor during working years. I have spent time on a 30 Pursuit with inboards and it frankly is not near the boat IMO compared to ours with outboards. Being I have outboards then naturally a diesel inboard sounds very interesting.
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If you are looking new Tiara will build any of the Opens without the portholes so that isn't necessarily a dealbreaker. The swimplatform is an option so its deletion would make a boat a little more fish and less cruise. The 36 with the TTS options seems to be a nice mix of fish/cruise and I would say it's more 50/50 than the typical Tiara 75/25 cruise/fish.
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The access below decks for engine and generator maintenance is quite different from one 35 to another. The 50 + have engine rooms you can stand in and get to both sides of the engines. Some boats in the 30 to 38 foot range are built for use and don't consider safety and maintenance. That is not to say that a tight engine room is bad. Operating costs go up dramatically above 35 feet.
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Predator 35' Express


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Old 11-13-2006, 10:22 AM
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Cabo fit and finish is top notch. 35 is a great boat. You may want to add the new 36 Albemarle to your list. A lot of boat for the money. Cabo 32 Express is a great boat and isn't much smaller than the 35 (and only weighs 400 pounds less). Cabo has a new 38 which will debut in Miami and Albemarle has a new 33 coming out. Carolina Classic makes a nice boat this size. You may also want to consider Henriques.
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:17 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. Interesting that Tiara will build boats without the port holes. I saw a few on Yachtworld and was wondering if it was aftermarket. The predator looks nice but not really a NW boat without the windshield. I would want a boat that has a tall windshield and very nice hardtop with only about 6-12 inches between them. Also the 36 Albemarle does look nice but the table down below is very small. A nice dinette is a must for me. Down below is where the Tiara really shines. The one other important feature to me is the Forward facing seats. Currently the L shaped is poplular and holds more people but when 2 guys or 3 guys are running 144 miles each way that gets uncomfortable and you end up standing. Next boat would have to have some sort of forward facing seat or L shaped that is raised for better visibility. The Cabo and Carolina do a good job of this.

Djcxx how do you feel the finish is on the Luhrs compared to your Pursuit. Also how much better does it ride in a 4 foot head sea.

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Old 11-13-2006, 02:30 PM
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The last comment was intended for Fishy.

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Old 11-13-2006, 02:33 PM
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Why would anyone here in the NW want an open boat?
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Why would anyone here in the NW want an open boat?
I think he means Express style boat, Luhrs calls them open, Cabo calls it Express
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Old 11-13-2006, 03:12 PM
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The 38 luhrs is probibaly rour best bet, rides better than 99% od the boats its size and is much more affordable alos look at albes.
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38 out island express is an option. great performer but no winshield and may not have the fit and finish in the cabin you are used to. probably 90% fish. seems like all of us 30ft pursuit owners are eyeing the 35 to 41 ft express boats. isn't a 38 cabo express supposed to debut in Miami. I am certain I could not afford that one but I bet it will be impressive.
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:23 PM
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Red the definition of the word is the extent of my knowledge of the phrase. Just one of those things you read once and never forget.

Foxy I think that a 35 express/open style boat may not be the family boat that many here use but could be a great boat for the guy that like to both hardcore fish and also cruise for long weekends to the islands. With a high windshield and hardtop it can be comfortable. Picture a boat that could leave from Everett Wa and run the 150 miles to Bamfield and then fish the ocean 40 miles out each day for a week. Also be able to run to the North end of Vancouver island on the East side. All things the Pursuit does but this would add some more comfort and sea capabilities along with the fact that if I am going to ever moore a boat in a boat house it is going to be a diesel inboard.

Doeboy I think the 2 foot itis is natural for anyone even the megayacht guys but with us 30 Pursuit owners we are very happy with what we can currently do and the next move is normally a 35-38 twin diesel boat. For me atleast. I don't know when and am not in a hurry but I do enjoy looking at what is new right now and thinking what the market may look like used in 2-7 years. If I had to pull the trigger today on a boat for 325k I would go with the 38 Pursuit Offshore. That is the only boat I have had real time to walk around on and it is the right mix for me.
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One word Henriques a true battlewagon you wont be sorry...
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