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Old 11-06-2006, 01:52 PM
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Default how to make a vessel (inspected) getting a COI for a used boat.

Not , sure were to post this, does anyone know were info can be found on what requrements are needed to get a used boat up to par to get a COI for it, The boat will be a downeaster, 40 ft or so. Looking to carry up to 20 up to 20miles and 10 up to 100 miles. I know that you can have boats finished COI specs, but I am looking for an older hull to repower, tear the decks up and install whatever the CG is looking for ex. # of watertight bulkheads, specific fuel lines and valves, yadda yadda yadda. Has anyone done this before?? or Know where I can access the info without reading a ton of CFR's.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:56 PM
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Most boats that are set up for what you are looking for are already have been inspected by the CG,other then that,you will need to read all the tons and tons of CFR"s.That is part of getting your masters Lic.
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:28 PM
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Let me clarify my question a bit, I am very familiar with COI requirements for larger vessels from 49+ passenger headboats up to oil tankers. VERY familiar with the CFR's, the CG loves putting them in the exams. I was wondering if anyone had done what I am looking to do. I currently have a 6man charterboat, but an looking to get up in the 40' range and get a certificate for it so I can carry more people during the busy season. The CFR's describe how you need 18inches of seating room and 10 sq ft of deck space for each person. What I am looking for is the structual hull changes that need to be made, stringers, bulkheads ect. I have few friends in the buisness with inspected downeasters, but they bought them that way. If anyone has done such a thing let me know how you went about it.
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My understanding is that it is very difficult to do with a boat that wasn't built to passanger specs when new. It will likely be just like building a new one. Marine architect/designer will have to make drawings of the boat and changes submit to the coast gaurd and have them aproved then the boat will likely have to be inspected throughout the process just like building a new one. Once you get past the six pack requirements things change dramatically. I have a friend that owns a hundred passenger sternwheeler and he went through a bunch of bs just making some minor changes in layout and upgrading the generator a couple of years ago. This was on a vessell built as an inspected vessell from the start. You may find it easier to buy a boat that was originally built as an inspected vessell and have the mods approved.
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Old 11-07-2006, 01:52 PM
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I guesse there is nobody who has taken on this task?
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:55 PM
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I am going to be trying this process in the next few months. I am redoing a 25ft Flybridge Bertram with an OB. I am looking to get a 10 person, 2 crew for lakes, bays and sounds COI certification on the hull. I have the fuel tank out and the hull is pretty well gutted.

If I cant get an inspection for just 4 more people on this hull over a 6 pack then it is impossible to get! Just my 2 cents.
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I've had 2 inspected boats and delt with the USCG inspections and constant changes and upgrades
Step one, contact the USCG inspections officer in your district and ask for a face to face meeting.
Step two will probably be to begin your search for a vessel that already has a coi.
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:10 PM
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I don't think you can make that boat pass the stability test.
When they start filling up barrels of water on the corners of the deck you might exceed their maximum allowable trim angle, and the windage from your flybridge will work against you as well.
But, good luck!
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Sorry,the few boats that I know had been built to specks from the CG before given a lic.Those captains went thru hell any time they wanted a change.The boats they had built were already boats that the CG approved in the pass.But as someone else stated,its a bit-h for any change.
Now on that 28' Bert,don't think you will pass muster,best of luck.
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I've got a 52 Cat that was built by Keywestboatworks.com
I think if the Coast Guard wasn't invited to the building process there will be no way to COI her?
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As was suggested, your going to need the inspector to look at the vessel. Find a sister ship that is inspected and use it as a referance. The other thing is you are going to have to buy a permit, it was explained to me they do not make any new ones (finite number of them). A few things they require are crash bulkhead, fireboy, raft of the day, epirb, compartment volumes determine bulkheads, compartments do not share bilge water, if its onboard it must work, no loose wires, bla bla. I have been through quite a few refits and inspections. Seems that the inspectors have a certain specialty and as they get reassigned and new guys come on they find different things. Theres a Torres on the beach I wish my customer would upgrade to an overload but he's to scared of the hassles.
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Most importantly you need original manufacturers build / layup schedule for your exact HIN, to prove that hull is fire retardant. Hard to get on older hull

Stability test is hard to pass.

There is reason COI boats are triple the price of same exact rec version

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When your finished reading what many have never tried or completed----

Contact the coast guard and as was mentioned, get a face to face interview.

Many boats have been approved without the original plans.
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It can be done. A friend of mine just (as in 6 months ago) went through it. He took a glass 42' Evans 6 pack boat and got it certified for 22. I don't know the details beyond adding the collision bulkhead, raft, raised the rails, enlarged the scuppers and widened the cabin doorway but I know he busted his ass doing it. It can be done. I can't speak to difficulty or cost effectiveness of it.
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