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Old 11-01-2006, 11:20 PM
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Default Amsoil Outboard Oil

Anyone using Amsoil? Do you think it's any
better than Pennsoil, Yamalube, etc.
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:58 AM
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Do a search please, plenty of info for you to look at already without rehash/bashing that this thread will generate.
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Okay here I go again!! AMSOIL 2 stroke oil is not , I repeat is not TCW3 certified. Use only TCW3 certified oils. As Major has said, go do a search this topic has been torn to shreds!
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:34 AM
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Yea, I use it. I never had a problem. It burns clean, and leaves very little in carbon deposits. I don't use Ringree either. I use the Startron and 1 once a year decarbon the motor with Mercury Powertune. I spray a generous amount into each cylinder and let it sit overnight.
The next day, I take it out and run it.

There are other forums other then THT that use Amsoil 2-stroke oil exclusively with excellent results. So, to each his own and good day!

By the way I run 200 HP Salwater Series OX66
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There are other forums other then THT that use Amsoil 2-stroke oil exclusively with excellent results. So, to each his own and good day!

By the way I run 200 HP Salwater Series OX66
So where on my forum do I fill up with AMSOIL?

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Old 11-02-2006, 04:33 PM
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I used Amsoil oil on a new Black Max Merc 175 out of the box. Recommended by my Merc certified mechanic that installed the new Merc on my old boat. The Merc was installed in 1995 I put tons of hours a year in Gulf of Mexico waters and the 175 is running as good as new. The 21 1985 Wellcraft is solidly worn out.
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drop, your Merc mechanic is going against Mercury's recommendation. AMSOIL is not TCW3 certified! Merc stipulates only to use TCW3 oils as do the other manufacturers. Who knows better your mechanic or Mercury themselves! It just boggles my mind that some take the approach that the manufacturers don't know a thing when it comes to their recommendations!
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i used amsoil synthetic in my old black max without a problem. The motor smoked alot less also. The mechanics i worked with at a jetski/ motorcycle shop swear by it. I have seen plenty of torn down jet ski motors to see that the stuff is awesome. Don't know how much difference you would see on a newer outboard but best to problably stick with the manufactures recomendation on this one.
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Problem here is motorcycles and some jetskis don't require TCW3! So don't think it is a valid argument!
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Read my last line. that's why i said to stick with the manufacture on this one.
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HP Injector Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil (HPI) IS THE ONLY CERTIFIED ONE
Excellent for all outboard motors with a performance emphasis on modern direct fuel injected (DFI) technology. Also recommended for personal watercraft, jet boats, motorcycles, snowmobiles and ATVs. Injector use or 50:1 premix.
NMMA TC-W3, API TC

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HP Injector Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil (HPI) IS THE ONLY CERTIFIED ONE
Excellent for all outboard motors with a performance emphasis on modern direct fuel injected (DFI) technology. Also recommended for personal watercraft, jet boats, motorcycles, snowmobiles and ATVs. Injector use or 50:1 premix.
NMMA TC-W3, API TC
Where does it say it is certified NMMA TC-W3

NMMA doesn't so Amsoil is not NMMA certified TC-W3.
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Sorry but JUSTINTIME is right on.

Right off their website:

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HP Injector Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil (HPI)
Excellent for all outboard motors with a performance emphasis on modern direct fuel injected (DFI) technology. Also recommended for personal watercraft, jet boats, motorcycles, snowmobiles and ATVs. Injector use or 50:1 premix.
NMMA TC-W3, API TC"

I use this in my outboards and I wouldnt have bought it otherwise but even on the gallon jug it says NMMA TC-W3 and lists every outboard brand I can think of.

This is Amsoil HP Injector oil.
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Sorry but JUSTINTIME is right on.

Right off their website:

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HP Injector Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil (HPI)
Excellent for all outboard motors with a performance emphasis on modern direct fuel injected (DFI) technology. Also recommended for personal watercraft, jet boats, motorcycles, snowmobiles and ATVs. Injector use or 50:1 premix.
NMMA TC-W3, API TC"

I use this in my outboards and I wouldnt have bought it otherwise but even on the gallon jug it says NMMA TC-W3 and lists every outboard brand I can think of.

This is Amsoil HP Injector oil.
It says NMMA TC-W3 but it never says it was certified.
Amsoil needs to pay to get certified so we can end this debate once and for all!
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there are a lot of specs that I fully trust various trade organizations with (the NMMA is a trade organazation). IMO if an oil manufacturer wants to tell them to go pound sand, all the power to them. Of course the engine manufacturers all specify what they want run in their motors, this specification is a MINIMUM requirement for what they have determinded that their motor needs. The TC-W3 certification is just that, a base minimum oil specification. If you have a motor that is under warranty, I can definitely see the argument that you should stick with the manufacturers recomendations, but at the same time, can you personally name any one individual who has had a motor claim denied.

I know a ton of people with outboard powerd boats, cars, trucks, general stuff with motors, a few have had motors under warranty fail, their oil choice has never even come up as a question. The only time I have even heard of an oil related question come up in in the instance of premix 2-stroke motors, mainly small engine stuff, in which the mixture is usually questioned on the basis of ratio, but not the basis of oil brand or choice.

Oil specs are pretty simple in reality, there are a set of performance standards that you have to hit to meet them, if you do, you are at, or above said requirements. To be forced to pay for compliance IMO is a bunch of BS.
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go here guys http://www.nmma.org/certification/
they list all boats and oils
u should see who is not on the list as boats, u will be amazed what big company is not on there!
amsoil 4 stroke oil is there, not the 2 stroke, because they did the testing last year around this time
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Guys,


Some of the Amsoil stuff may not meet API or NMMA specs. I can't remember which metal it was, maybe zinc, but it came to light awhile back that non API certified Amsoil had too much of this metal in it to meet API specs.

Basically, don't listen to the fluff that some people will tell you where Amsoil chose not to get certification becasue of cost. With the amounts of money involved, it's worth every penny to Amsoil to get a certification.

BTW, I'm not saying Amsoil is a bad oil. I'm just giving you a reason why Amsoil might not have certifications on some of their oils. I also can't remember why too much Zinc or whatever metal they had too much of was bad because it worked as a lubricant, but too much was know to cause possible problems.

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Are you a broken record kevin? Certification is just a way to extort money out of oil companies and only the big boys can afford it. the fact is the oil is far superior to the crap the big oil companies produce and have people like you defend. The only reason you get on this board and become a broken recors is for your own greed the fact is the oil is the best there is. How much does it cost for this extortion called certification? How many hundreds of thousands of dollars is it?
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Ansoil is far better than the TC3 oils.
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Are you a broken record kevin? Certification is just a way to extort money out of oil companies and only the big boys can afford it. the fact is the oil is far superior to the crap the big oil companies produce and have people like you defend. The only reason you get on this board and become a broken recors is for your own greed the fact is the oil is the best there is. How much does it cost for this extortion called certification? How many hundreds of thousands of dollars is it?
Deadwood it took you 2 days to jump on this post. What's up man? AMSOIL may cut you off if you keep slacking off like this!
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