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Old 10-27-2006, 10:06 PM
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I have a Sea Hunt Boat it has a lot of Carolina Flair. Flat out this boat is dry, what am I sacrificing with all the flair? What are the Pro's and Con's of Flair Boats?


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My opinion is that the only down side to the "Flair" is that you have a high freeboard in the bow....

But most boats with a Carolina flair, like my Reg, have a very deep deadrise and entry angle. The down side to these steep V's is that it rocks a lot at drift. It also prefers taking seas head on. Boats with "flatter" running surfaces prefer to quarter the seas.... This has nothing to do with the Carolina flair. As a said, most boats with the flair have the deeper "V's."

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Maybe not in the same class..... but my Kenner bay boat has a ton of flare and of course is very dry riding, BUT..... it's a little pain to wash an upside down horizontal surface without having the water run up your arm......... that's my only gripe... petty isn't it????
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The true Carolina flare boats have a narrow front, which gives less interior room in the bow. The narrower bow permits better piercing of the seas and creates more overhang, which keeps spray down and helps provide bouyancy in heavy seas (think running breakers in an inlet, which is a big and constant challenge where these boats originated). The boats initially and primarily were built for charter, so loss of interior bow space wasn't a concern. Look at a picture on the web of an upside down hull being built and you will see it clearly. Before you go thinking your boat has a lot of Carolina flare, you need to stand under the bow of one on land and look up at how much overhang there is. It is impressive.

(By the way, I assume you mean flare and not flair, which could apply but means something different - like style or attitude.)
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From what I have heard there is a bit of windage created by the bow flair. Just in terms of speed, not drift or anything else
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I suppose there may be a lot of things wrapped up in your term of 'flair' here... if we restrict the question to bow flare alone (without considering a step in sheerline or change in vee in the lower straight portion), flare will make the boat dryer and give reserve buoyancy to make submarining less likely. Relative to straight sides, there is extra material located high in the boat though, so it is raising the center of gravity.
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I can't think of any downside to alot of bow flair. The upside is a dryer boat. And that is a very good thing.
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What does the weight to the sides and up high do when the boat yaws in following seas? If you roll far enough to get the hull sides forward in touch with the water would the boat want to yaw even faster?
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What does the weight to the sides and up high do when the boat yaws in following seas? If you roll far enough to get the hull sides forward in touch with the water would the boat want to yaw even faster?
I don't think it will affect following seas performance per se, just add a little more roll tendancy/inertia, qualitatively - like putting weight in a wheelhouse would do.

From what I understand, the biggest factors in following sea performance are fine-ness and depth of the bow (sharper and deeper are worse), flatness of the bottom in the back half (flatter is worse), and width/squareness of the stern (wider/squarer are worse). Those factors will make the bow dig deep into the water forward, the transom get a big push from the following wave, and give little resistance to swinging the stern around...
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I have yet to find a downside to lots of bow flare.

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I'd rather have big spray chines than bow flare. The previous poster was correct- Carolina flare was on hulls that are more narrow to cut the chop better, and the flare fanned the water as well as gave a larger bow platform to stand on. Those Carolina boats didn't have real deep v's to the transom, so they were stable at drift and easy on horsepower, the bow cut sea enough where the relatively flat bottom on the aft 1/3rd of the hull didn't need to have that fuel -hoggy deep v not to pound.
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Carolina flare originated to keep from stuffing the bow in NCs shallow, breaking inlets
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our maycraft is a carolina boat. to be a 19ftr it will suprise you when coming off of steep swells or breakers in our shallow N.C. inlets. trust me, i know. i haven't took water over the bow yet when approaching the steep swells head on while throttling back was neccessary to keep the bow and/or complete boat from going airborn but i know my time will come. these inlets get pretty darn nasty at times. i've seen 23 ftrs back off several times even knowing that once they may have made it thru the inlet that the sea conditions would be much more pleasant than inlet conditions.
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Never been through a Carolina inlet. What do you consider a shallow inlet (how shallow)? The two I use to access the Gulf are around 5'-7' deep. Once you get past the shallow inlet the seas are much calmer and I can cruise comfortably. I usually have to throttle back to keep from launching, but I've never managed to stuff the bow. Love the Flare!
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If nothing else, Carolina Flare keeps the front of a boat from looking like the end of a clawfoot bathtub with the feet broke off!


Actually, you (we) do lose space in the bow. People who brag about the room in the cabin in their small boat....look at the bow, my money's bettin' the bow looks like a barge.
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Ok Guys your right it's Flare not flair. I guess in the excitement of getting the Hull truth and opinions I ended up with the wrong flare, please forgive me it was unintentional.
Hey moving slightly off the subject I was talking to this guy at the ramp and he refered to my boat as a "Poor mans Grady" what a shot ! I did'nt know if I should thank him or tell him to go play with a Bull stingray with an over active tail.

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Not sure how shallow, but Hatteras and Oregon inlets are known for routinely having 8-12 foot breakers. It was either design a boat that can run them safely or stay home a lot.
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From what I have heard there is a bit of windage created by the bow flair. Just in terms of speed, not drift or anything else
Ya, I'd rather lose 1/8 of 1 mile per hour top end speed than take a soaking, yes sir Carolina flared hulls slice those waves and keep me and my mate's dry!!

Some Boaters prefer to stay dry others prefer non Flared hulls!!

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Never been through a Carolina inlet. What do you consider a shallow inlet (how shallow)? The two I use to access the Gulf are around 5'-7' deep. Once you get past the shallow inlet the seas are much calmer and I can cruise comfortably. I usually have to throttle back to keep from launching, but I've never managed to stuff the bow. Love the Flare!
thats a shallow inlet . sometimes 4ft on low tide. our inlets shoaled up due to storms and other acts of nature and everyone raised enough hell that they started a state dredging fund.
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I was talking to this guy at the ramp and he refered to my boat as a "Poor mans Grady" what a shot ! I did'nt know if I should thank him or tell him to go play with a Bull stingray with an over active tail.
That guy is dead wrong!!! It's a smart man's Grady. While Sea Hunt may have the same lines of the Grady, Sea Hunt has an interior layout that works for me and my family. I have always been a Grady fan and have always wanted one. When it came time to buy a new boat the Grady was definitly more money but lacked the layout that my family needed to keep us all happy (wife, 2 boys under 6, and myself).

I'm very happy with my Sea Hunt and don't mind being around a bunch of higher priced boats with it. ... Because in the end... I know I wouldn't be going out in 25+ knot winds and it gets me on the water just as much or more as those higher priced boats would have.

Call me poor, call me smart...call me while I'm having fun on my Sea Hunt.

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