Dual station morse control throttle problem - The Hull Truth

no-worries · 10-22-2006, 08:24 PM

I've got morse controls on my boat with 2 stations. If the boat is idling, and I go to station 1 and bring the throttle up to 50%, the throttle on station 2 doesn't move. I can go to station 2 and increase the throttle to 75%, but I can't lower it.

Does anybody know how to troubleshoot this? Is it a limitation of my controls, or are the controls not connected properly?

Chaps · 10-22-2006, 10:00 PM

There is a right way and a wrong way to hook these up. Go to the Morse site, I remember seeing an explanation . . .

no-worries · 10-23-2006, 01:48 AM

This is what they look like:
http://marineengineparts.com/shopsit...N036469001.jpg

Could you help me out with a link to the info you're referring to on Morse-Teleflex site? I can't even find that product on their page!

Chaps · 10-23-2006, 04:14 AM

Yeah, go to this page:

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...s&library=1017

Download the PDF files "S and Twin S Control" or "SR Control" depending on which one you have. These are the install manuals for that Morse system.

muskrat · 10-23-2006, 07:27 AM

is this a new rig????whats the motor you have the control hooked too.it sound like one of your cable is broken or not hooked up..

Reel-Rascals · 10-23-2006, 11:05 AM

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If the boat is idling, and I go to station 1 and bring the throttle up to 50%, the throttle on station 2 doesn't move. I can go to station 2 and increase the throttle to 75%, but I can't lower it.

First off, there's NO WAY I'd ever go anywhere near the RPM percentages you have quoted ... in IDLE. This is true for inboard motors or OBs. Which are you using BTW

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2nd, are your controls rigged as "parallel" or in "series"? A parallel installation has separate cable from each control arm back to a common box that then sends the desired cable action to the motor.

In a seriesinstall, the motor throttle goes to one hanger of the first helm. The other cable is affixed to the other arm on the helm and then up to the 2nd helm where it attaches to the same hanger/arm as affixed to the main helm.

Example: using an OB installation as typical. These motor cables need to pull the gear FORWARD and push the throttle BACK towards the engine. So look at your Morse setup with the twin levers, gear on the left, throttle on the right - you are behind them facing the bow.

You gear cable would be affixed to the REAR lever arm of the lefthand gear control. When you push that control arm foward, the back of the lever lifts up which pulls the shift arm forward. You second cable to the aux helm would go from the forward LH hanger to the REAR hanger on the aux helm.

For the throttle, the main helm t-control connects to the FORWARD hanger on the lever arm. The other cable to the aux helm then connects to the REAR hanger on the main helm up to the FORWARD hanger on the aux helm throttle control arm lever.

Got it?

Yes, these need to be balanced, but FWIW, if you have Morse Twin-SR controls this is S I G N I G F I C A N T L Y easier as the SS top of the helm control can be removed by taking out 2 oval machine screws. It is a Pian in e arse adjusting Twin-S controls, as most times, you need to completely remove the entire control assembly out of its mount to affix or adjust anything.

FYI - Not sure what cables you are using, but the Xtreme 33-type by Teleflex are absolutely incredible. Takes zero effort to move the control arms and each end is adjustable (as are all 33-types).

Hope this helps ...

no-worries · 10-23-2006, 03:23 PM

Boat is a 24' searay sedan bridge with a volvo 41p/dp (duoprop outdrive).

It appears they are run in parallel. My flybridge station has the 2 screws on top that takes the whole housing off. The cabin station has the one with the name plate on top.

I figured out the problem. Whoever installed this did a bad job. The throttle cables are only attached on one side (should be both), so if you see the pic you can see what happens when one throttle is moved and the other isn't.

Any recommendations on how to fix this? Do I need some different brackets?

no-worries · 10-23-2006, 06:49 PM

Ok I grinded off those sleeves on the brackets and bolted the cables to them. They are now linked! YAY! I've still got a minor issue of the bridge throttle can't lower the throttle all the way to idle. It's kinda weird that the cabin helm can--you'd think if the cable was too short the cabin helm wouldn't be able to do anything with it either.

Anyhow, I guess I gotta wait for the woman to be here to help me troubleshoot it. It's kinda hard to push the throttle and watch the cable at the same time!

Thanks for the help!