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Old 10-19-2006, 02:31 PM
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Besides Panga's unique hull design, could anyone shed some personal testimonies about these boats.
Wet? Dry? Efficient? Solid? Ride?, anything would be helpful. thanks Joe
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Japaneese design.
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True Pangas originated to be a low cost, efficient means for underveloped countries to saltwater commercial fish. They are very solid and come in many sizes, however, lack much in the way of design or finish. They are a wet ride and tiller models will pound in rough water. Not sure how adding extra weight, like center consul, work to change the ride, however, now you will need more HP to push the boat and efficiency goes down. To me, making them fancy center consul models is like putting skirts on a hog. Pangas are best left as a good, simple, light, tiller fish killing machine that will run on pennies of gas and get you home in rough seas.

I have alway wanted an 18' Panga with a tiller 40HP 4 stroke. Perfect bay boat.
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My experience is ones built and used in Baja, they are wet and roll a lot while drifting due to the narrow beam.

However very efficient, very solid (withstand a lifetime of beaching) and ride pretty smooth.

No two Panga builders are alike so do your homework. They are not so cheap anymore either.
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Careful, some require a lot of water to float compared to a bay boat or cat.
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There are a few low sided pangas and yes each factory makes a different boat, however, the majority are built to carry a large amount of weight and handle rough water. I have been in many 22' Pangas with 55HP tiller motors carrying 1000# to 2000# of cleaned giant squid in the holds(between the seats), on the sea of Cortez side. On the Pacific side, many 22' pangas commerical dive for lobster and abalone. Also run nets for fish and shrimp with them. An 18' Panga would work fine up here in our NW bays. Not sure about your bays back east.
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The ones I've been in could survive nuclear war. We fish and dive off of them down in Playa del Carmen, and they are tough as hell and their captains beat the crap out of them, run them up on the beach at high speed, slam dive tanks around, and so on. A rebuild is a new coat paint, applied with a broom of course.
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better to search panga here and at outdoors best
plenty of reading ..remember there are half a dozen brands and size from 14-45 ft
if you have a specific question ..i'm sure someone will have an opinion

nothing beats doing a ride test ...dont think you'll be disappointed or wasting your time
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how is your reading going...
did you see how they were good enough to stay upright for 3 mexicans
that drifted the high seas for 9 months in their 25 fter
supose to be the longest recorded survial at sea
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Your question is a very vague one... There are thousands of panga style boats around the world, and comparing an 18' tiller-model panga made in Mexico to one of the "americanized" pangas (like mine, for example) is night and day...

I have a 2005 26' Angler panga with the full transom and bracketed twin 90 HP Mercury Optimax motors. It is very dry, very efficient (almost 3 mpg at cruise), is stable at drift (more stable than similar length traditional deep v boats), and costs about 1/3 of a new 27' Contender That was the biggest selling point for me......

Down sides are somewhat low gunnels (I'm 6-03, and they come to the top of my knees at the transom - but I'd rather have them at the middle of my thighs), and an overall lack of storage space (Though, there are lots of "un-tapped" spaces in the boat that can be cut into, as sold it has very little storage space). Other than that, I absolutely love my boat. I've done A LOT to her, though, to make her perfect for my needs....

Best advice I got when I was looking at pangas was not to believe a word anyone says about them until you go on a sea trial... I didn't believe anything I was reading, but was completely sold after a sea trial...
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have you considered adding a padded rail that comes to mid thigh

i agree, it is nice to have something to brace against or hang onto when it gets snotty



i havent seen pics of rails being used on your boats over there yet
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Arlon is our resident Panga expert...but I haven't seen him on in quite a while. I hope he didn't get chased away by some of the, ahem, "Experts" that don't like Pangas. I'm sure if he sees your post he'll chime in.


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One point to note - Panga uses the 'long/skinny' design philosophy as opposed to the increasingly extreme 'short/fat' philosophy designs... my point is that you shouldn't compare boats of equal length; roughly speaking, you should compare boats of equal area - multiply the length * beam of the short/fats you like and then find the Panga with the most similar footprint area - that's the analogous boat. Then take them both for a seatrial.
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I've never seen padded rails, but they would probably be in the way of my rod holders.. The gunnels aren't so low that they're a problem, I would just prefer for them to be higher if I had the choice...
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Pangas are great boats if used as intended. Lets face it, how many 22' boats will run wot in rough water, wave top to wave top, that are powered by only a 55hp motor???

Take that same panga and try to make a super panga out of it by going from tiller to center consul and you will need at least 2 to 3 times the hp to get around.

Also, for the same price of a super panga, there are many good boats out there with better designs and finish.

Trouble is, not many boaters in our country will settle for a tiller boat.

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i've got a back bait board that i brace against..
being over 50..i dont have the ballance i use to have

good point yankee..
go up a size in length for more deck and even better seakeeping
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the 22' CC does 30mph with a 70hp....not real bad stats

i've seen new 30ft panga cc hulls for $15,000 ...22' for $7,500..sounds ok for the money

as to design, i thought the panga delta pad hull was being incorporated into many hi-performance boats
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Do not get me wrong, I spent two years fishing in Mexico on and around pangas and think they are a great boat. I just question the logic of a CC panga.

Never saw any 22' CC panga with 70HP going 30 mph. The picture of the panga in your post looks like it has a 100 HP motor.

Any of the cheap pangas you mention would have very low sides and light hulll strength. They are lake boats and should stay there, they are not the heavy duty, high sided ocean going pangas.

Never heard of any high performance boat using a panga hull design. Sorry, this sounds like salesmen talk to me.
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no problems...i just have a different view point..
we are all comming at it from our own different perspective of what makes a good boat
where commercial fishing is a priority a tiller steer makes sense to keep the decks clear for working nets etc
a cc would only be in the way

i think the logic of a cc is because thats what people want and it sounds better than being called an open boat

the pic is off our aussie website of one underway
mine has a 70hp and does 31mph..andros's 22' is reportably doing 30mph with a 70hp too

as to being lowsided, light hulls and only suited to a lake, they are a jap fishing boat design that are used around the world as a prefered sea hull
i think it was a 25ft eduardono that the 3 mexicans drifted the high seas for 9mths..nearly making it to australia

i think if you accept that delta pads originated in asia and google "delta pad" hull
you will find quite a few including fountain, baja, hateras and most jet boats that have taken on the delta pad

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