Used Glacier Bay, World Cat, or Sea Cat which would hold it's value and depreciate the least? - The Hull Truth

baranx3 · 10-14-2006, 01:32 PM

I was curious of your opinions of purchasing a used cat with which one would take the least hit in depreciation since your balancing purchase price with selling it a few years down the line. I was referring to the 26 foot models, with each it would include a repower before selling. I want to keep it till the kids are older and I need a larger boat. All 3 seem to be quality constructed.

While at NADA I was surprised how close the trade in values were between them since you see glacier bays selling higher used. World cat and glacier bay didn't include power but it could be figured seperate.

Thanks in advance.

katkt · 10-14-2006, 06:18 PM

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BW23 · 10-14-2006, 09:59 PM

The most influencing factor will be 2 stroke or 4 stroke engines.

I purchased my clean used 2000 GB2640 w150HPDI's exactly a year ago. The 150HPDI's are good motors and they perform very well on this hull.

The GB's with 130's are selling for less due to their poor performance.

Double Action · 10-14-2006, 11:45 PM

This used to be a more difficult question, we tried to sell our Seacat 25 about 6 years ago and the newest engines were the Optimaxes, the boat did not sell since we had the 2 strokes. Well, it turned out the Opti's were junk, the buyers at that time seeked out a serious money pit for their cash.

We finally sold our boat about 6 mos ago, we bought our rig for 27K and sold it for 12K 10 years later. The twin 2 stroke 135 mercs were running perfect. You could say our selling price proves the Seacat depreciated like mad, that may be true but find me a Glacier worth 50% of tag with original power in 10 years and I'll show you a boat that depreciated more than our Seacat's 15K!

I believe the best value is a Seacat, man did we slay some fish on that rig.

Rob has just renovated our website and it should be up within the next week, major pics on there with some new ones coming from our latest boat.

Bullshipper · 10-15-2006, 01:42 AM

In 1997 Seacat bare hulls started at $23K. With power they are a little more than that now, 10 years later.

World cat 26's have probably taken the largest hit as there is a real slug of them on the market, and GB's seem to hold their value well.

But the Prowler 24's probably are a the king of mountain IMO from what I have seen. They are like the Pacific Aluminum monos.

baranx3 · 10-15-2006, 10:26 AM

I know my question was very open ended. I've seen a few world cat 266 and 270's for high 30's low 40's but it's rare to see andy glacier bays that low. With the world cats repowering is going to be a fair amount more since they usually have more HP. To be honest I'd be happy with the cruising speed of a glacier bay. Had a buddy who used to run his boat as if it was in a race and in looking back, I'm surprised I returned with all my fillings.

The sea cats are nice boats but they seem to be selling used right where the world cats are and lets face it I'd rather go newer.

I haven't seen any used prowler 24's, How much smaller are they than the world cat and glacier bay 26'?

Thanks

Bullshipper · 10-15-2006, 02:49 PM

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baranx3 - 10/15/2006 9:26 AM

I know my question was very open ended. I've seen a few world cat 266 and 270's for high 30's low 40's but it's rare to see andy glacier bays that low. With the world cats repowering is going to be a fair amount more since they usually have more HP. To be honest I'd be happy with the cruising speed of a glacier bay. Had a buddy who used to run his boat as if it was in a race and in looking back, I'm surprised I returned with all my fillings.

The sea cats are nice boats but they seem to be selling used right where the world cats are and lets face it I'd rather go newer.

I haven't seen any used prowler 24's, How much smaller are they than the world cat and glacier bay 26'?

Thanks

There is a 1997 GB w/o a trailer and 150 yahahas for $30K asking, on boatrader or yachtword right now. This is a very good deal, even if the motors are shot.

I bargained a GB1997 down to $33K with 150 Johnson and a trailer, but found out they are fitches, and passed.

A prowler 24 is a planning hull that will give you about 13 mph more speed and almost 50% better gas milage with the same 150's, but they are a factory direct boat that are rare to come by used, usually run around $+50K, and only come in CC models. Their 306 is cherry, but harder to find and 2X the $$ of course.

baranx3 · 10-15-2006, 06:00 PM

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Bullshipper - 10/15/2006 1:49 PM

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baranx3 - 10/15/2006 9:26 AM

I know my question was very open ended. I've seen a few world cat 266 and 270's for high 30's low 40's but it's rare to see andy glacier bays that low. With the world cats repowering is going to be a fair amount more since they usually have more HP. To be honest I'd be happy with the cruising speed of a glacier bay. Had a buddy who used to run his boat as if it was in a race and in looking back, I'm surprised I returned with all my fillings.

The sea cats are nice boats but they seem to be selling used right where the world cats are and lets face it I'd rather go newer.

I haven't seen any used prowler 24's, How much smaller are they than the world cat and glacier bay 26'?

Thanks

There is a 1997 GB w/o a trailer and 150 yahahas for $30K asking, on boatrader or yachtword right now. This is a very good deal, even if the motors are shot.

I bargained a GB1997 down to $33K with 150 Johnson and a trailer, but found out they are fitches, and passed.

A prowler 24 is a planning hull that will give you about 13 mph more speed and almost 50% better gas milage with the same 150's, but they are a factory direct boat that are rare to come by used, usually run around $+50K, and only come in CC models. Their 306 is cherry, but harder to find and 2X the $$ of course.

I already went to the factory site. earlier today they're 53 plus cost of power. I actually want a center console. I go like how the console is forward in the GB giving more room when trolling.

baranx3 · 10-15-2006, 06:02 PM

Question on the Prowler 24. Since they're a planning hull, isn't that what the older sea cats were before they changed to the molds that world cat started with?

Bitefish · 10-15-2006, 06:03 PM

If you could find a GB with blown engines (or close to it) and were able to buy it right you could solve their "slow" problem by putting more power than they recommend on it.

You'd have to watch the weight and stay out of the throttles (they get squirrelly over 40mph or so) but you'd have a VERY nice boat that could run in the upper 30s safely.

Problem with GB is that the set their max power limits to make it impossible to exceed roughly 40mph, which means if you want that mid 30s cruise (and lots of guys, including me, do) you're running on the pins all the time and that's not good for the engines.

Double Action · 10-15-2006, 09:13 PM

You got that right, Prowler 246 is nearly identical to the older Seacat SL5 hull.

Bullshipper · 10-16-2006, 01:40 AM

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Double Action - 10/15/2006 8:13 PM

You got that right, Prowler 246 is nearly identical to the older Seacat SL5 hull.

Si, but the prowler is lighter and this more than anything helps her speed and economy.

I believe that they are claiming around 53 mph and 2.6 mph at a 35 cruise with 150 hondas.
Only way to beat this is with aluminum, a little less deadrise, higher tunnel with less turbulence, and trim tabs for a head sea.