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Old 01-05-2017, 07:18 AM   #1
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Default Bateau GF16 Build

Started building a new skiff and figured this was a decent time to throw some pictures up. Iím taking a lot of the pictures/text from my posts on another forum so if it doesnít make a ton of sense thatís why. The boat is a Bateau GF16 and I have a 2017 Suzuki DF20 to power it and itís sitting on a 2016 Magic Tilt trailer. I started Thanksgiving 2016 and even though the boat is still under construction it is officially titled and registered in the state of Florida.











I was able to get the bottom on and start taping the seams, about half of them done but I don't have pictures. I do however have pictures of what showed up yesterday, which happened to be on my wife's birthday. I told her it was for her, just so happened to be going on a boat I would use predominantly.





A few pictures from the past week. I got the bottom cut and temporarily mounted, all the inside chine seams glassed (aside from frame/bottom) and transom/bow glassed in. I trust the design of the boat completely but because I have a habit of overbuilding I tripled the glass on the transom vertical side/transom part and doubled the bow glass. I know it was probably overkill but it makes me feel better for when I inevitably hit a sand bar at full throttle.









I cut all the wood for both sides of the rubrail last night. I don't have enough clamps for both sides so the right side was glued but the left side has been dry fit which will hopefully make it go quicker. I used 6 dowels at various locations to act as locators which really helped a lot. I haven't been able to sand yet so it looks ugly but overall I'm happy. On the FL14 I did the rubrail last and I'm glad I did the rubrail this early, it's amazing how much stiffness gets added with it. On the picture with the dowel in it I moved clamps to get a better shot, it was highly supported last night while curing.





Had a busy weekend, was able to get the rubrail fully on and flip the boat. I cut a hole in the bottom for a through hole transducer that I filled with milled glass fiber. I wanted to be able to glass over it in one shot. I rounded the chines, filled with putty, taped seams and laid the wide cloth on. Ended up working by myself and from the first mix to taking the gloves off it was right about 7 hours. Long day when you're fighting a cold but it was worth it, everything done at once and minimal air bubbles. The bow glass was a little tricky but I managed to get it completely covered. It looks funky due to separate pieces being used but it was all put on at the same time so I'm hoping tied in as if it was one piece. Also I glassed all the way to the rubrail on both sides which gave me about 2/3 of the width of the bottom being double glassed. Makes me feel better about that inevitable sandbar at 30mph.

Yesterday I got the runners glued and glassed to the bottom, it's really feeling stiff now. I'm going to call a few lumber places locally to see if I can get a few pieces of Doug Fir for the spray rails since the selection at Lowe's was pretty pathetic.











Ended up going w/ 1"x2"x14' fir spray rails (actually 0.75"x1.625") and got those epoxied in place last night. It was a little challenging to get them on by myself and I ended up having to use screws but those won't be too bad to remove and fill later on. I purposely left a little hanging off the back so I could trim them and towards the bow I like to shape with putty instead of grinding to shape. Towards the transom where it doesn't look straight it wasn't, luckily I caught it early and moved it 0.5" down (towards shear). It looks like on the runners there's air voids under the glass but in person that doesn't appear, I think it's something with the lighting on the camera. Tonight I'm planning on doing a lot of trimming of overhanging cloth and general cleanup from the work this weekend.





I ended up adding 4' to the current strakes and will splice them in with a layer of 2 of 12oz biax. They're just glued in place now, will be glassed tonight, but I can tell there is definitely more stiffness in the bow. They end right at the rear of the front casting deck. The bend was more than I was expecting so I had to use screws instead of just weight but they're on there now!



Did something terrible to my ankle and my Dr. has said to stay off my feet. I told him that I had 4 days off from work and I wasn't going to sit there and do nothing (he understood I think) and now I REALLY have to stay off of it. Something something tendinitis mixed with another set of latin words. I did get the binder threads knocked down and first layer of fairing compound down. I bought the materials to build a fairing board which will happen sometime soon hopefully.

Also got the final piece of the puzzle, the trailer. It needs to be set up for this boat but I've got plenty of PT 2x4s, bunk carpet and brackets. Bought LED taillights and a swing tongue and it came with a new friend too.

Hope everyone had a great Christmas!





Ankle is still not great but a few Rxs later I can at least walk on it. Have the bottom pretty much faired, just need to sharpen the chines. The bottom was very straight the last 4-5' except for the left corner of the transom, I think the wood must have shifted when I was tacking it together. Not a big deal, just a few extra passes of fairing compound and glass but it's worth it to get it done correctly now than later.

I made a few fairing boards out of 1/4" and 3/4" plywood, 3mm foam, hobby lobby handles and harbor freight 36 grit sanding sheets. I'm sure a real board would work better but these did the trick and were less than $10 for both.

Best news is I got the boat and trailer titled/registered. I didn't have to show pictures of have it inspected, just show receipts. It was the first time this DMV had registered a homebuilt boat and since I've done it before I walked them through it but I now know the process very well!

Looking forward to getting the graphite on sometime this week, side faired/painted and flipped onto the trailer.







I was able to get the dams built last night and pour a mix of woodflour and milled glass for the chines. There's some decent planing that needs to be done to knock them down but it's a lot better than too little. Also got the final layer of fairing on the right corner, it's now level and straight. A lot of work that was broken into small 1-2 hour jobs here and there but I'm hoping the end result will be worth it.



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Old 01-05-2017, 07:26 AM   #2
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awesome work! keep the pics coming
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Nice job. I'm probably gonna wish I had gone that route instead of repairing mine!
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Nice job. I'm probably gonna wish I had gone that route instead of repairing mine!
I already made that mistake, $500 16' skiff on Craiglist. 1.5 years and double the amount of money it would have taken to build this boat from scratch I sold it and cut my losses. In the end it was a good lesson but not one I want to repeat.
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Looking forward to seeing this build progress-- you're going to love the results! I had a similar garvey (my design, but similar to the Glen-L Dragonfly) and was always surprised by what it could take.

You've mentioned the likelihood of hitting a sandbar more than once... PLEASE use your kill switch lanyard.
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Definitely wear the kill switch, on this and my last outboard they are manual start, I always loop the end over the starter handle so there's no way to forget about it. I may not always have the best judgement but I ALWAYS wear the kill switch. The comment about hitting sandbars is mostly a joke, but at the same time I know how they can seemingly come out of nowhere and it would be nice to have a boat where the only thing hurt is your pride.

Also thanks for the comments, I can't wait to see how it performs!
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Would like build one of these myself,looks like fun. Where did you get the plywood and other lumber and what type of resin are you using? Thanks,keep up the good work !
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Pete: www.bateau.com is down in Vero and has all the materials in addition to the plans for many boats.
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Pete, I bought everything from Bateau.

Like fish-stix suggested.. check out their website. It's easy and they tell you the build of materials you will need. All you do is order the stuff. Fedex brought my 17 sheets of plywood.
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Yep bought everything from Bateau. Luckily I live close enough that I was able to drive down and pick everything up. I've ordered smaller stuff in the past and usually it arrives next day, you can't beat that!

I was able to get the bottom faired and graphite coated over the weekend. The graphite is powder that's mixed in with epoxy to give you a very hard and slick coating, perfect for running up on beaches/oysters.

The bottom is now done and I made a few fairing passes on the sides (after these pictures). I'm hoping to get the final sanding done tonight and prime sometime this week. I'm looking forward to the boat going on it's trailer.



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Very cool, keep up the good work!
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I keep telling myself that one day I'm going to attempt to tackle a project like this. Until then I'm just going to enjoy all the pictures from everybody else.
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Nice work. I've got a 30hp short shaft 2 stroke that is dying for a home. I know this one is for a long shaft, but I'm debating building vs picking up something to repair/rebuild. How many hours do you think you have into it up to this point?
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Looking good. What type of wood are you using for the rub and splash rails? I want to replace mine, which are currently red oak. But I want to varnish them instead of glass, mostly just because that's how they came originally. Having a hard time finding the oak though, may have to do cypress or teak.

Obvious- the boat I'm trying to restore is set up for a short shaft, but I already have a really nice long shaft. Looking at putting a bracket (jack plate) just to raise it 4". I've seen some that do the opposite also, if that helps you any.
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I like the graphite bottom. A few years back I built an FS17 and used solid glass beads and epoxynto protect the keel and skeg. Holding up pretty well
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Thanks guys! For the rubrail I ripped pieces of 3/8" marine ply and laminated 3 layers thick. Spray rails are 14' Douglas Fir and the strakes are cedar.

I'd say at this point I have about 50 hours into it, but some of that was fixing a few mistakes and redoing something I was completely satisfied with. The nice thing with building yourself is you're in complete control over everything, including transom sizing.

Good to hear about the longevity of the bottom, it already feels tough and slick.
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The nice thing with building yourself is you're in complete control over everything, including transom sizing.
I think I'm starting to realize this!
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Another nice thing is if you have friends that help with even the smallest detail, if ANYTHING goes wrong you can blame it on them!
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Got the final fairing sanded last night and primer on. It was fairly cool and damp last night but I'm hoping as it gets warmer today and giving it almost 24 hours the primer should cure well. It's dry to the touch this morning just a little soft still. It's definitely a 10' fairing/painting job but I'm ok with it, this boat is being built to be used.



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Got the boat flipped and on the trailer, the spray and rub rails need to be cleaned up, epoxied and varnished but overall I'm happy with it. I'm anticipating another final layer on paint once everything is done. It was a busy weekend, got the bunks built/setup, LED tailights, swing tongue on the trailer then bow eye drilled and filled w/ backing plate put on and transom boards on.



Also when cleaning out the garage I found a quart of polyester resin that was very old. I also have some old antibiotics that I needed to get rid of and I know you're not supposed to flush them down the toilet so:

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