The Boating Forum - Southport 28cc vs. Grady Bimini 306

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HUP
11-19-2005, 07:07 PM
Ah yes it has come down to these two boats for purchase next season. I know that the boats may lie on different ends of the spectrum. I was interested in the fishing functionality of both boats as well as ride. I have tested the southport but have yet to get out on the Grady. I currently have a Sailfish 236cc and will be selling the boat to get into one of these boats. The sailfish, although a nice running boat in head seas, tends to be a wet boat. Being sprayed this time of year up in the northeast is no fun at all. Just wanted to get some opinions out there.....thanks


nedarb2
11-19-2005, 07:22 PM
u cant go wrong wit ha grady.dont know much about the southport line of boats though

offshore1218
11-19-2005, 07:46 PM
are these the only two boats your looking at? for the price of the 28 southport(165,000 sport fisherman)
theres a lot of other center consoles(in 32-35ft range) about the same price and most are respectable boats that are good quality.
If these are te only two I like the southport.


go fish
11-19-2005, 09:25 PM
Get the Grady!! I purchased a new 306 in September and my old 306 is on the trading dock. Need to sell!!!

CTBob
11-20-2005, 07:34 AM
You have to demo the Southport. After owning 4 GW's I made the switch to the 28 SP and it is all I could have asked for. PM me if you have any questions. The GW hull hasn't changed in years, only the liner. Ride cannot compare to Southport. Check out this review of the Southport. http://www.southport-boatworks.com/sf200512.pdf Also notice they have a $5,000 incentive on options going on now. Good Luck!!

Steve 08753
11-20-2005, 12:50 PM
Hobby Lobby Marine in NJ carries both, it might be possible to sea trial them back to back to help with an informed decision.

georgedo
11-20-2005, 04:33 PM
I would suggest taking a look at the Buddy Davis 28. Of the boats you mentioned I would put the BD ahead of the Southport and The Grady. I am a Grady owner and a big Grady fan, but recently I was on a BD and I was very impressed.

Tuna2
11-22-2005, 03:38 PM
AAHH HORSE- Sorry, I will learn to watch my language -! That darn Southport aint worth two slaps of a hogs ass. It rides like a turkey with a sock on its head. Get the 306.

ant1
11-22-2005, 03:44 PM
Tuna2 - 11/22/2005 3:38 PM

AAHH HORSE- Sorry, I will learn to watch my language -! That darn Southport aint worth two slaps of a hogs ass. It rides like a turkey with a sock on its head. Get the 306.




Don't even listen to what this joker has to say,that's rediculous and you know you have never even been on the Southport. The Southport is an incredible boat,both ride wise and finish wise. The Grady is a fantastic boat too,but my money goes on the Southport.The thing is you are comparing 2 differant size boats,so it's not even.

Birdman
11-22-2005, 03:50 PM
Scout 28 CC.

bluewaterpirate
11-22-2005, 03:59 PM
Hup .........

If your serious about buying a boat here a deal that is worth a hard look!

http://thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=71922&posts=39 (thread-view.asp?tid=71922&posts=39)

Asking $55000.00

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Tuna2
11-22-2005, 04:00 PM
I know. Sorry. I'm just kidding. I don't even know what that means, "a turkey with a sock on its head". But I do like the 306 over the 28 Southport. Happy Thanksgiving!

Afishinado
11-22-2005, 04:07 PM
Haven't got a look at the Southport yet... I'll be looking for them at Miami. I have fished the 306 Bimini many times, hard to believe the Southport would be more attractive, especially at only 28'. The 306 is a big 30' IMHO, and my personal favorite of the big CC's.. As for fit'n'finish, it may equal the GW, but would have to touch it to believe it exceeds it, probably splittin hairs.

fichtion
11-22-2005, 04:09 PM
Don't the transoms rot out on the Grady's?????????

brdawg2001
11-22-2005, 04:11 PM
So, they did not do any modifications to the hull on this last version of the 306?

abfish
11-22-2005, 04:13 PM
CTBob - 11/20/2005 7:34 AM

You have to demo the Southport. After owning 4 GW's I made the switch to the 28 SP and it is all I could have asked for. PM me if you have any questions. The GW hull hasn't changed in years, only the liner. Ride cannot compare to Southport. Check out this review of the Southport. http://www.southport-boatworks.com/sf200512.pdf Also notice they have a $5,000 incentive on options going on now. Good Luck!!

I happen to like the Southport, but I hope you're not basing your opinion on a review from Sportfishing. Clarke's reviews are the next best thing to an ad written by the marketing manager of the boat mfr. "I know of no reviewer" who produces such useless reports.

Drifter
11-22-2005, 04:15 PM
Afishinado - 11/22/2005 5:07 PM

As for fit'n'finish, it may equal the GW, but would have to touch it to believe it exceeds it, probably splittin hairs.

I think you'll find that the fit and finish on the Southport will surpass the GW. The Southport is really finished very well IMO. Both nice boats, but neither would be my choice in this size range...

PJJR
11-22-2005, 04:51 PM
Both are very nice boats, sea trial each and see which suits your needs best. You really can't go wrong with either boat :)

bigtuna
11-22-2005, 07:15 PM
165,000 for a 28 ft boat!! What a rip off. You can get a lot more boat for a lot less money with other dealers. Just my 2 cents. I would say "get the grady."

chipper
11-22-2005, 10:10 PM
Nobody is paying anywhere close to 165K for a 28 Southport. Doesn't matter as my preference wouldn't be either of theses two, and you're right, they are at the end of extreme differences. Way too many top quality boats in the same size and in my opinion much better choices than either.

bigtuna
11-22-2005, 10:36 PM
There is a 2005 31 contender with f250s, 18 hrs, decked with electronics for 125k. You figure it could be negotiated to at least 120K. Now that is the boat I would get. 30-40k less, and A LOT more boat. I guess it all comes down to ones personal preferences though. Those southports seem to be awesome boats, but I just don't think they are worth the price tag they put on them.

go fish
11-23-2005, 07:26 AM
bigtuna - 11/22/2005 10:36 PM

There is a 2005 31 contender with f250s, 18 hrs, decked with electronics for 125k. You figure it could be negotiated to at least 120K. Now that is the boat I would get. 30-40k less, and A LOT more boat. I guess it all comes down to ones personal preferences though. Those southports seem to be awesome boats, but I just don't think they are worth the price tag they put on them.

That 31 Contender will fit inside a GW 306! The fit and finish, ammenities, features, style, and reputation made the Grady my choice.

WildLines
11-23-2005, 07:37 AM
chipper - 11/22/2005 11:10 PM

Nobody is paying anywhere close to 165K for a 28 Southport. Doesn't matter as my preference wouldn't be either of theses two, and you're right, they are at the end of extreme differences. Way too many top quality boats in the same size and in my opinion much better choices than either.

I totally agree.

I have climbed all over the SP and yes it is a nice boat, some good ideas and looks to be well built, but at that price tag it is out of line. At 165k...the list of bigger CC that are just as quality built and have been around much longer is very long.

There is a couple SP's sitting on the lot down here in Jax, FL they have Verado's and have been sitting for 3-4 months...they may be willing to deal. PM if you want the dealerships #.

cobraarvey
11-23-2005, 07:43 AM
Not sure where offshore1218 is getting his pricing, but the 2005 Southport 28 fully loaded was listed at $145k. Dealer was quoting $138k before haggling. That's in line with Regulator, which is their targeted competition. Fit and finish on the Southport is every bit as good as Grady, with the nod going to Southport from what I have seen on both models.

HUP
11-23-2005, 08:44 AM
Some of you are speaking of other boats in the category that would be better choices...what might some of these boats be? I have seen the hydrasports 2900cc and the 3300cc...nice boats but may not be constructed as well. Yellowfin boats are nice but I need a head to keep the girlfriend happy...on the two occasions that she actually comes fishing with me. I have been on the regulators and they tend to be wet, besides I don't like the step up. I have looked at the everglades as well...talk about alot of money...I know you get quite a bit but there very little fishing room. I think that boats was built with 2-3 people in mind. At times I may have 6 people out on the boat with me. Anything at this point is a step up from my 236 sailfish which is a great head sea boat but after that you are getting wet.....

hup

bigtuna
11-23-2005, 08:56 AM
Go fish,

Yea, that is what I am saying, either one of those is a lot more boat than the southport. Why pay more for less boat?

bigtuna
11-23-2005, 09:05 AM
Others are the 31 sea vee, 31 contender, 30 grady white (which you mentioned), 32 fountain, 33 palmetto, 31 cape horn. Take a hard look at the contender as I was saying. If you are going to be using it mainly for fishin, this is the best bang for your buck. Tons of deck space, fast, more fish box than you would know what to do with, great livewells, nice fit and finish, and very economical for it's size. True, some may say the grady is a tad bigger, but also slower, and less fuel efficient. I personally think the contender has more fishing room the the 30 grady. IMHO, I would take any of the above boats over a 28 southport. If you are paying that kind of money, you might as well get more boat. This is not me bashing southport because they are awesome boats, but for the money you pay for them, you can really step it up into a new ballpark. Hope this helps

svenski
11-23-2005, 09:47 AM
I looked over th SP at last years shows - real nice layout, fit and finish excellent. Also the SP uses all composites I believe, which helps if you are going to keep it a long time, and strength to weight is optimized. The SP hull with its bit of reverse tumblehome is a classic look, especially in blue. Its a bit of a change in look to the GW.

HUP
11-23-2005, 10:22 AM
The cape horn is a nice boat but not very beamy. i never liked how the gunwales sloped in toward the center of the boat at the midship and the bow. Make for some tough fishing in big seas. Contenders rock and roll at rest...i drift quite a bit as well as anchor over wrecks. i haven't looked a the sea vees and fountains but have been searching for a palmetto dealer. I just think that the ride on the southport is something else...you are never looking at the bow at hole shot...i have seen southports advertised for around $130,000 what has everyone else seen....

trophyfish58
11-23-2005, 10:22 AM
bigtuna - 11/24/2005 7:05 AM

Others are the 31 sea vee, 31 contender, 30 grady white (which you mentioned), 32 fountain, 33 palmetto, 31 cape horn. Take a hard look at the contender as I was saying. If you are going to be using it mainly for fishin, this is the best bang for your buck. Tons of deck space, fast, more fish box than you would know what to do with, great livewells, nice fit and finish, and very economical for it's size. True, some may say the grady is a tad bigger, but also slower, and less fuel efficient. I personally think the contender has more fishing room the the 30 grady. IMHO, I would take any of the above boats over a 28 southport. If you are paying that kind of money, you might as well get more boat. This is not me bashing southport because they are awesome boats, but for the money you pay for them, you can really step it up into a new ballpark. Hope this helps

When I look at the size of a boat, I also consider the beam. Southport has over a foot more beam than a Contender. Not sure it is fair to say, Contender is stepping up into a new ball park. Also the Southport reports better fuel numbers than the Contender.

WildLines
11-23-2005, 10:35 AM
HUP - 11/23/2005 10:22 AM

Contenders rock and roll at rest...i drift quite a bit as well as anchor over wrecks.

I own a 33 Palmetto which is very similar to a Contender. These boats do rock at drift in a beam sea...they can't help it. 9' 6" beams with 24 degree deadrise...everything is a trade off. Don't miss understand what I am saying, the rocking is not a problem and not bad, but it will be more than a boat with 10' + beam and less dead rise.


Good luck in your search.

evernic
11-23-2005, 10:58 AM
Birdman - 11/22/2005 3:50 PM

Scout 28 CC.

Are you EVEN aware that there are OTHER boats????? ;? ;? ;?

bigtuna
11-23-2005, 12:50 PM
True, there are trade offs on every boat. By new ball park, I meant size wise. This southport just doesn't look much different to me than a 28 scout, 28 grady, or 27 edgewater. The boats I mentioned are noticeably bigger, therefore in a different ballpark. Can't really go wrong with any of the boats listed on this thread.

HUP
11-23-2005, 04:31 PM
To evernic response...I assume that it was intended for me. No I only know of two boat companies????? I am looking for real input from people who have some opinion on boats that they have trialed. No one needs a wise guy...thanks

cobraarvey
11-23-2005, 04:38 PM
HUP, evernic was responding to Birdman, (reference his including Birdman's post above his response). I believe he was commenting that Birdman seems to always be Scout Boats biggest salesman whenever someone asks for a comparison on manufacturers, even though Scout is not mentioned in the thead. You know, like since I drive a Ford, everyone should drive one.

offshore1218
11-23-2005, 06:56 PM
cobraarvey - 11/23/2005 7:43 AM


Not sure where offshore1218 is getting his pricing, but the 2005 Southport 28 fully loaded was listed at $145k. Dealer was quoting $138k before haggling. That's in line with Regulator, which is their targeted competition. Fit and finish on the Southport is every bit as good as Grady, with the nod going to Southport from what I have seen on both models.

i found the price off of sportfisherman magazine.
http://www.sportfishingmag.com/article.jsp?ID=39798
I think it was in the december magazine. maybe new price but i did see 145,000 on saltwater sportsman website.(older article)

brdawg2001
11-23-2005, 07:54 PM
HUP,

I have a GW 273 Chase that I am VERY happy with....

I have never been a huge GW fan as the old ones would beat you to death....however, I tried to objective when I got a good deal...

No, it is not a speed demon...53 mph with twin F225's.
It is VERY stable when trolling....
The boat is designed to be comfortable...nice seats, bolsters, rear seat.....
I run 85 miles each way...

I really have no complaints other than the stupid battery switches in the back where you get spray...

That 306 looks pretty nice buy I have not ridden in one...just thought I would give some input on the smaller one that has the same focus.

r

Mayoki
11-23-2005, 11:00 PM
I have been on the regulators and they tend to be wet. ;?

mturnerb
11-24-2005, 10:54 AM
I ran a GW Bimini ('99) for three years. Absolutely great boat. We fished exclusively in blue water from Jacksonville (Mayport) - a 55-70 mile run. Typical seas were 2-4, 3-4, 3-5. No problem in this boat. What was impressive to me was how much better the ride was than my previous boat, a 26 Islander ('96). The Islander had a single 250, with the "old" style SeaVee hull (cut out at back where trim tabs were). The bimini had the new style hull (flush trim tabs, effectively adding about 2' to running length) with twin 250 Yamaha OX66's.

We cruised at 30-38 MPH (statute) depending on sea conditions. Not fuel efficient (Much better with 4 strokes), but great ride, stable troll, loved the big t-top (now a hard top). I had the high bow rail which turned out not to be so great - we woud have to gaff a fish at the side/rear of the boat and carry to the front fishboxes. Quite a mess with dolphin - and we caught a bunch. I fouled a prop offshore once (too rough to fix offshore) and was able to get on plane and run home on one engine. Not sure you can do that with F225's.

One more thing - the electronics box. Absolutely a terrific idea, well implemented. A little hard to route/repair the wiring but worth the trouble.
I have seen the Southport - beautifully built boats. I don't know anything about the ride but looks like a great boat. I think the wide gunwales may take away some useful fishing space and the cockpit defintely seems smaller than the Bimini.

Three Vs
11-24-2005, 02:31 PM
I would go with the southport over the grady. I was very impressed with the southport from ride to finish...Imop its a higher level boat all around vs the grady...good luck with your choice...

chipper
11-24-2005, 08:34 PM
You asked for other quality choices. The SP is a top notch boat, but personally I'd choose several over it and probably could be had for less money. The 28 McKee is a hugh 28 and rides/looks great. Fit/finish is up there with the best. Others that rank highly would be the 27 or 31 Contender, 29 Seavee, 28 - 32 Intrepid. Lots of solid choices. Where are you located?

HUP
11-25-2005, 02:56 PM
I am located on long island and do much of my fishing on the south shore making runs out to the canyon and just offshore. i have looked into the intrepid...the top deck looks more thoughtout than the hull and fishing features...just me...contenders I really don't like b/c of the stability at rest. Sea vee's i really haven't looked at yet. Maybe i will check them out at the NYC boat show in January...

matt

marsimi
11-26-2005, 04:24 PM
I am also looking at both of these boats. It seems both have great fit and finish. I have fished on a 306 in 3-4 seas and it was dry and a good ride. I have only had one ride on a Southport in 2 foot seas so it cannot compare. I did notice that the southport seemed to lack many creature comforts that the Grady had, but that they were very similar in price. Let me know what you decide - I am still on the fence holding onto my pocket.

fish factory
11-26-2005, 05:36 PM
evernic - 11/23/2005 11:58 AM Birdman - 11/22/2005 3:50 PM Scout 28 CC. Are you EVEN aware that there are OTHER boats????? ;? ;? ;?



:grin::grin::grin:

HUP
11-26-2005, 05:52 PM
You are right the Grady is a more comfortable boat for the family and at the helm. I don't sit much when running the boat so that really doesn't bother me. I don't have a family yet so I don't have those concerns when purchasing a boat. I prefer a good riding, fishing boat.....so at this point I am leaning toward the southport. Plus I really like the dealers......

lrfisher
11-26-2005, 11:43 PM
HUP - Sounds like you may already be sold on the Southport, and no doubt, its a very fine boat and ride. I have to agree with a couple earlier posts about the McKee 28, as its one fine boat with a great ride and turns heads too. My opinion, its at least equal in quality, fit/finish to the Southport, plus its unsinkable and sharper looking. Both boats are built nearby, and both are top notch. My choice would be McKee, but you wouldn't regret buying either.
I'd also choose either of these over the Grady.

CTBob
11-27-2005, 09:42 AM
I think the real bottom line between these two boats revolves around the design of the hull. Both are top notch boats with great fit and finish. Some may like the interior layout of one over the other, but if you compare where the "hull meets the water" (the real deciding factor in most of our minds) the Southport is the clear winner. The Grady 306 hull is basically a stretched version of the 1988 280 Marlin. It has the same 19.5 degree deadrise as did the 280 in 1988. GW lengthed the hull in the transom area to accommodated the reverse transom look of the 90's. This design allowed them to keep the same basic interior liner dimensions and was cost effective in that they could change the liner, which they have done, and not the hull. The 28 -30 foot GW's run flatter than the newer hull designs and therefore are harder and wetter riding boats. The Southport was designed with the known weight of the motors and uses a Cigarette type laminate; strong but relatively light. Hunt www.CRHunt.com then designed the dimensions of the Southport to optimize the ride. Southport was able to use build materials of the 21st century, instead of 80s. technology. Hands down the Southport is the better riding boat comparing the two.

waveguide
11-27-2005, 07:38 PM
Southport over Grady for ride and construction. Rob

Birdman
11-28-2005, 04:50 PM
fish factory - 11/26/2005 5:36 PM



evernic - 11/23/2005 11:58 AM Birdman - 11/22/2005 3:50 PM Scout 28 CC. Are you EVEN aware that there are OTHER boats????? ;? ;? ;?

*

:grin::grin::grin:

No. There are very few other boats than Scout. There are some nice trawlers out there, but other than trawlers, there are only Scouts!

What I would really like to know is, if "fish factory" knows there are any other posters out there. See, he lets all see his true Proline marketing dept job get in the way of his free thinking. :grin:


Yea yea, we all know fishfactory, something retarded about a groton sea capt., bla bla bla PS- That picture of a groton sea capt is a compliment, thanks!! Wish I looked that good. :grin:

evernic
11-29-2005, 10:40 AM
HUP - 11/23/2005 4:31 PM

To evernic response...I assume that it was intended for me. No I only know of two boat companies????? I am looking for real input from people who have some opinion on boats that they have trialed. No one needs a wise guy...thanks

NO not intended for you...if you look I have "birdman's" post in the box....HE said Scout...HE ALWAYS says Scout...you DID NOT ask about Scout....sooooooooooooo...I replied to HIS post..get it..I was not being a wise guy :nono: :banghead:

adavefish2
11-29-2005, 10:43 AM
Grady Bimini 306--I had the chance to ride a 2006--redesigned ---as for looks, the 306 is very PURTY, and the ride was unmatched by any boat I've been on over the years. Ate up barge wakes without even the slightest spray, and that was at 50mph. My buddy bought one over the Southport. Southport OK according to him, but the Grady had much more comfort, not to mention a top shelf dealer to stand behind the purchase. No surprise as Grady has been doing the C.R. Hunt thing for years. All told, its tough to beat the Grady from every aspect--not to mention RESALE, RESALE, RESALE value.

whippa4
11-29-2005, 12:55 PM
Don't misled by the SP 28' ,,, this is a true 28... with a 10' plus beam... those light weight "pocket rockets that count bow rail tip to bracket extention are no match...the BD 28 is very nice but really
is a 26'

ant1
11-29-2005, 02:14 PM
whippa4 - 11/29/2005 12:55 PM

Don't misled by the SP 28' ,,, this is a true 28... with a 10' plus beam... those light weight "pocket rockets that count bow rail tip to bracket extention are no match...the BD 28 is very nice but really
is a 26'



26 Southport 26'6 9'6 beam
28 Southport 28'6 10'6 beam


Big boats in their respective classes.

Red_Tag
11-29-2005, 10:13 PM
ant1 - 11/29/2005 3:14 PM

26 Southport 26'6 9'6 beam

Big boats in their respective classes.

I know. I just tried to fit a 26 into an 8'6" container.

It don't fit ... ;)

go fish
11-30-2005, 06:28 AM
grady is 30'6" 10'7" beam

This way you can cure your twofootitis with about the same amount of $$$.


Or you can purchase mine for about half price with F225s. See trading dock.

HUP
11-30-2005, 06:41 AM
I am headed down to the southport plant at then end of this week. Will post a report when I get back...

hup

Red_Tag
11-30-2005, 05:03 PM
Great! Love to hear what you think of them.

ant1
11-30-2005, 06:52 PM
Red_Tag - 11/30/2005 5:03 PM

Great! Love to hear what you think of them.



You need to post some performance numbers on that hotrod you got there.


I ran a 26' with the 225's and we touched 52mph fairly easily.

Red_Tag
11-30-2005, 08:25 PM
Figures by Yamaha

http://thehulltruth.com/forums/get-attachment.asp?attachmentid=25211

HUP
12-05-2005, 08:43 PM
Back from the Southport Factory...all I have to say is "a great bunch of people". How many companies will take the time to show you what they love to do. Frank Longino, Alton Herndon and Brad Herndon all spent a good deal of time explaining the in's and outs of their philosophy of boat building along with a tour of the factory. Everyone down there is on a first name basis with no hierachy...everyone seems just as important as the next. As we all know, if the people that lay the glass aren't happy then the boat buyer will be unhappy. They take great care in placing each piece of glass layer by layer...hand layed. The owners have invested in an air circulation system that recycles airflow every seven minutes...very similar to air flow in an OR room. This allows their employees to work in a safe comfortable environment...no big, hot maskes to wear....better productivity. I had the chance to go out on a ride with Frank on the 28cc. We were out in tough seas...3 foot chop with a 15mph wind. Didn't seem so bad when we were doing 40mph and not taking a beating. In a quartering sea you may need to tab a bit but did very little when underway. The boat plains in no time...the bow raises may 4-6inches and then goes right down. If you ever get a chance to run the boat bring it up to 30mph and then do a full turn into a donut....that will sell anyone. Needless to say with the promotion that the factory was running and yamaha offering an extra 3 years of warranty I will have my new 28cc next spring...with that anyone want to buy a 2004 236 Sailfish? Hope this helps...thanks to Strongs Marine and Southport.....

Red_Tag
12-05-2005, 10:50 PM
I had dealings with Frank and Brad and can't speak highly enough of them. They were professional, prompt and downright helpful.

:thumbsup:

tremont
01-06-2006, 09:53 AM
I just looked at the South Port. My impression was sloppy workmanship. Ill fitting moldings covered up by sloppy caulk beads, a creaky floor in front of the wheel, almost sharp edges on the metal hatch lifts.

Other observations were useless storage hatches in the transom, a strange positioning of the livewell in the leaning post, a cellar for the head compartment(very deep), a vinyl t-top cover, flimsy looking transom doors, very small hard to read control markings on the console next to cheap looking toggle switches. There were other things and I was only on the boat for 20 minutes in the dealership.

The Grady may be a bit dated but it is reliable, much higher quality, well laid out and has a good name for resale value. I go with the Grady for sure! :(

ant1
01-06-2006, 10:35 AM
tremont - 1/6/2006 9:53 AM

I just looked at the South Port. My impression was sloppy workmanship. Ill fitting moldings covered up by sloppy caulk beads, a creaky floor in front of the wheel, almost sharp edges on the metal hatch lifts.

Other observations were useless storage hatches in the transom, a strange positioning of the livewell in the leaning post, a cellar for the head compartment(very deep), a vinyl t-top cover, flimsy looking transom doors, very small hard to read control markings on the console next to cheap looking toggle switches. There were other things and I was only on the boat for 20 minutes in the dealership.

The Grady may be a bit dated but it is reliable, much higher quality, well laid out and has a good name for resale value. I go with the Grady for sure! :(



I don't know what Southport you looked at,but that is the exact opposite of what I and many others have encountered.Maybe it was the prototype. It has arguably the best fit and finish of any center console today.I shouldknow I have been looking for a high quality CC for 2 years,and I highly doubt most people are as fussy as I am.

tremont
01-06-2006, 10:42 AM
Brand new 2006 SP 28. Last night. Maybe that is the reason they are reducing the price from 162k to 129k. Yes the boat show is next month but that is a very big discount.

CTBob
01-06-2006, 12:05 PM
Have to disagree on the sloppy workmanship also. As far as head compartment, it's the only CC I know of that you don't have to be a contortionist to enter! I'm 6'2" and can enter and exit easily with the door opening from the top instead of the side. Also if the canvas top is not to your liking , they offer a beautiful light-weight acrylic top that looks just great. The last thing you knock Southport on is their quality. Do yourself a favor and sight down the side of a Southport hull and do the same for a GW. No print-thru or wavely lines in the SP gelcoat. Their glass work is incedible.

Reel Screamer
01-06-2006, 12:08 PM
IMHO that Southport is one UGLY boat................

cobraarvey
01-06-2006, 12:32 PM
Wow Tremont, I'm also shocked at what you observed. Not doubting your claim on a single boat you saw, but I've been looking long and hard at the Southports for a year, along with Regulators. I can honestly say that I was ready to pull the trigger on a Regulator 26 until I saw the Southports at last winters Atlantic City Boat Show. The 28' Southport at the AC Show had just been manufactured, (it was one of the first and didn't even have motors), and although I was expecting some flaws, it totally blew me away. As CT Bob mentioned, the hull and gel coat was flawless, along with the fit and finish. I'm currently looking hard at a 29 Regulator, but keep coming back to the Southport for it's ride, wider beam and stability at drift, time to plane, and fuel economy that blows the Regulator away. I would not even consider the Southport if it was not an equal in the fit and finish department to the Reg.

I'm also curious about that price you were quoted. I have not seen any deals even close to that $129K price for a new '06. What state were you quoted in?

tremont
01-06-2006, 01:11 PM
I don't see these obvious things on the Grady. True it was the only SP I've looked at up close but my report is accurate. I also just looked at the REG 29. Nice boat, but once again I am much more comfortable on the Grady if just for the simple fact the
Grady has a much higher freeboard especially in the bow. The Reg has a very high price tag also.

I am a Grady owner but the SP paled in quality. On the Starboard Stern of the SP they put a Vin# on a black plaque. Even this did not fit flush. Made the boat look very cheap. These observations are objective not my opinion.

IN MY OPINION in their attempt to distinguish themselves from the competition they ended up hurting themselves.

Red_Tag
01-06-2006, 02:09 PM
Well, my SP 26 finally arrived yesterday. ;cool;

All I can say is that the boat is jaw droppingly beautiful. :o Photos just dont do her justice.

Although I will admit that the reg plate is slightly warped. Think I can live with that ... ;)

Here she is straight off the ship with shrink-wrap attached.

13655

ant1
01-06-2006, 02:11 PM
I am a Grady owner but the SP paled in quality. On the Starboard Stern of the SP they put a Vin# on a black plaque. Even this did not fit flush. Made the boat look very cheap. These observations are objective not my opinion.

IN MY OPINION in their attempt to distinguish themselves from the competition they ended up hurting themselves.





I would have to say you are the only person,that I have heard to say the quality is bad on the Southport. I don't understand it. ;? I've been on the Grady's,Reg,Contender,etc. The Southport is finished better than all of them.The Grady is finished very very well also.

tremont
01-06-2006, 02:33 PM
Maybe this one was built on a Friday.

cobraarvey
01-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Maybe that is why it is $129K ;? List for an '05 was $145k, and when you tacked on the few options available, it came to over $150K. I'm sure they have increased the list for the '06 models like everyone else, so $129K would be over 15% off list without haggling :o

cobraarvey
01-06-2006, 02:44 PM
By the way, best of luck on your 26, Red Tag. Glad to see she made it. It is gorgeous even on film :thumbsup:

tremont
01-06-2006, 02:55 PM
Best of luck mate!

bluto
01-06-2006, 04:35 PM
Red-Tag - that looks pretty.

If you're talking about boats in that price range and size - what about the Calyber?

HUP
01-06-2006, 06:04 PM
Interesting how all of this started...I went down to the plant in Wilmington just a month or two ago. I have to say that everything coming out of that plant looked right on spec. Sure, some of the earlier models aren't going to be up to snuff but that is why you were able to get a 28cc for under $130. They just wanted to get those boats out on the water and start a little marketing. As for the 06 models they have added many options and they only come with 250 yamaha 4 strokes. Some of the early models actually were ordered with 225's b/c of the lack of 250's. When I ordered my boat I added the acrylic top which is great. The reason they went with acrylic, instead of just making a fiberglass top, was for reasons of physics. With fiberglass the boat became to top heavy and wouldn't perform they way you would expect this boat. Plus over time the fiberglass would crack or become another liability. With acrylic, low weight, less drag, better performance and low maint. I also ordered the the ezy2c pane for the front windshield, additional rod holders in the bow, Rocket launcher across the transom, island box(cooler set up in the coffin box), command link and an additional spreader light, sirius radio, edson steering wheel, outriggers, splash curtains, battery charger, Clarion Cdplayer with speakers. I think that is it...quite a long list. I will take delivery of the boat with in the next 3-4 weeks. I will report on the condition of the boat when I see it. But I expect that everything will be as close to perfect as any boat can be. Brad, Frank and Alton took great care of me while I was down there visiting and they take even better care of their workers and the production of their boats. I am not a sales guy just a happy customer...I will keep everyone up to date...by the way if anyone is looking at these boats on Long Island head out to Strong's Marine and ask for Chris...he is a great guy and a straight shooter. Tell him that Matt sent you and he will help you out....all for now

Shambala
01-06-2006, 06:48 PM
So what are you going to choose for electronics?

HUP
01-06-2006, 08:11 PM
That has been the big question...after going to the NYC boat show I will probably install the new Raymarine E series with GPS/Radar/Sounder and possibly a simrad autopilot. I will probably choose the E120 but am considering 2 E80's. Just in case one goes down. As a back up to the electronics I have not decided yet....any opinions out there? Handheld GPS? Northstar 952?

troll
01-07-2006, 10:05 AM
It is quite possible every top tier boat company has a bad day and produces a model with some substandard workmanship. Even Lexus has a defect now and then. I believe you must look at a larger sample size to determine quality. I also believe the poster who examined a boat and reported some poor workmanship. I have seen defects on most boats which I have examined over the years - even GWs which are my choice to suit my boating needs.

I still think SPs will be a top tier boat in the long run. They are new and must stand the test of time before they can really be compared to GW, Pursuit, BW, Regs, and others. At least that is my opinion.

jrabbit
01-07-2006, 11:22 AM
Hey Hup...

I just bought a new 2005 26 Southport this fall... I went with the Raymarine E120 with the Navionics Platinum Chip... It's great!! Some really cool features with that chip. The unit takes a little getting used to... it's not super user-friendly, but once you find all the options... it makes life a lot easier. Very, very happy.

I wanted to put a E80 next to it... but, it wont fit. A little too tight on the 26. I can go with a C60, but then lose the data integration. Just ordered a Raydome for installation in the next couple weeks.

Love the boat, the ride is incredible! I have some small warranty issues that need to be addressed at the dealer. I will trailer down in the next two weaks to let them deal with. Stupid things, like a small spider crack on the deck near the anchor locker, some other minor cosmetic defects, nothing major!

Got the boat on a trailer, stored indoors, so have been able to go out this winter... which is really fun... a little cold, but the side curtains cut down 80-90% of the wind.

Good luck with yours!
Dave

HUP
01-07-2006, 02:16 PM
Hey Jrabbit,

What type of transducer did you install? The group that will be doing my installation recommended a inhull transducer...I was going to go with a simple transom mounted transducer. I really don't like playing with the integrity of the hull. So the southport that you have do you have the yammi 225's or 250's? Did you have to replace the scuppers? I know that they had problems with the original scuppers...too larger. I thought that the e80 may not fit...I may just go with a cheaper unit as a backup for a chartplotter...or a handheld. Although I hear that the battery life is pretty bad on many of these hand helds. Where are you boating out of?

hup

Red_Tag
01-07-2006, 05:03 PM
HUP - 1/6/2006 9:11 PM

That has been the big question...after going to the NYC boat show I will probably install the new Raymarine E series with GPS/Radar/Sounder and possibly a simrad autopilot. I will probably choose the E120 but am considering 2 E80's. Just in case one goes down. As a back up to the electronics I have not decided yet....any opinions out there? Handheld GPS? Northstar 952?

Hey HUP,

I got the Furuno 10" and 7" combo. The 26 and 28s share a common console, so it should fine on yours. The 10/7 are networked so either can show radar/sounder/GPS or all 3. This gives you some significant redundancy!

I also have the Furuno ETR30 network sounder and two kickass transducers; 88Khz 2kW and 28kHz 3kW. These are going to be a little fun to install. The 28Hz transducer weighs 25lb!!! We're installing later this week - I'll let you know how it goes.

Havent got an autopilot yet, maybe later...

HUP
01-08-2006, 10:21 PM
Sounds like a great set up...I have been sold on the Ray equipment just need to figure out how to get two displays...I was thinking about two E80's...anyone out there have a set up llike this? Any thoughts on inhull transducer over transom mount///

Red_Tag
01-08-2006, 10:24 PM
Southport are recommending in-hull. You can go with much higher wattage if you do this. I am about to go through the installation process with technical support from our National Furuno Distributor - I'll take some photos - if it works out, I'll publish them.

If it don't ...

;)

SeaJay
01-09-2006, 06:35 AM
Is the MSRP of the southport ($165K in the pdf) competitive with the other high end boats?

HUP
01-09-2006, 07:55 AM
The MSRP, after the new year, has to be around $158 or so after adding all of your options. At that price you could have the majority of options that they offer. If you want to keep the price down you don't have to add anything. The boat comes pretty loaded already...from there a 10-15% discount from the dealer seems to be standard...alot of cash

fishcop
01-09-2006, 08:17 AM
HUP ...I have been watching this thread closely. Congratulations on your choice and purchase. IMO..You made the right decision. The Grady is nice but construction and quality have to go in favor of the Southport. I have never rode one but the fit and finish is second to none. As far as tremont is concerned, notice he finally said he was a Grady owner. Several Grady owners on this board get offended when you compare their boats to another high-end boat and then opt for the other brand. I have been all over several Southport’s now and have been thoroughly impressed with everything the boat has to offer. Not once have I seen poor workmanship. On the other hand I have seen several Grady's, with poor wiring, glass imperfections, etc. Can't wait to see pictures of your new beauty. BTW, I have Raymarine electronics and have been very impressed. See if Southport will factory install for you. I did that with my boat and it saved me a ton of money. Good luck, and don't for get to show us pictures. Oh yeah one more thing.... Have you decided on hull a color?

HUP
01-09-2006, 08:47 AM
I will post some pictures when I get my first look at the new boat. I just called southport to see if they install the electronics...for some reason I don't think they do. I should take delivery within the next couple of weeks..needless to say I am very excited. I went with the ice blue as the hull color. Really liked the aristo blue but figured it would show more over time.

troll
01-09-2006, 09:22 AM
You might try Billy Devito for your electronics. He is the best around but favors Furuno. I don't know if that is a problem for you.
(910) 686-3986

cmg
01-09-2006, 10:28 AM
[QUOTE]HUP - 1/6/2006 7:04 PM

As for the 06 models they have added many options and they only come with 250 yamaha 4 strokes.








Congratulations on your new boat!

BTW, you can get the 28' with your choice of 250 to 275hp 4-strokes by Yamaha, Mercury or Honda

cpocraig
01-09-2006, 11:58 AM
if you are serious about buying a top of the line boat in the 28-30 range you need to check out the 29 CC Everglades. as always you should run at least 4 boats before buying and the Everglades 29 CC should be one of them. if you come to the ft lauderdale area i'll be glad to run you on mine.

cobraarvey
01-09-2006, 02:20 PM
HUP, was the transom scupper problem on the 28 and the 26? Noticed a few pictures of the 26 with the new two hole scuppers. Not pleased with the way they look. Looks like a patch job. What exactly was the problem? The old scuppers looked to be the same as used on the Regulators. Also, I'm curious what an acrylic top is?

Good luck on your new purchase. I'm envious. Will wait for the pictures in the photo section.

dor
01-09-2006, 02:35 PM
That cant possibley qualify as a review... Former SWS reviewer - Never met a boat he didnt love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HUP
01-09-2006, 04:11 PM
The scupper problem was on the original design which has been taken care of on all the newer boats. The scupper hole was too large and it wasn't draining well...that is why they went with the two hole scupper design. The acrylic top..I guess is more of a glorified "plastic" top. B/c this boat has such a great ride and fuel economy the engineers didn't want to change that with a heavy fiberglass T-top..that would completely change the running of the boat as well as it becoming more top heavy. I will post pictures when I get my boat....cpocraig...I went out in the everglades 290pilot. Went out on a rough day and took alot of spray..of course we were dry b/c we were in the pilot house. You can't take anything away from this boat as far as design..it is beautiful. I didn't like that fact that the pilot house took up so much room. I felt like I was back on my 23 footer instead of being on a 29. I don't see all of those gadgets lasting long with some heavy pounding..all in all it is a great boat just not enough room for me..this may just be a isolated incident but I have a friend who owns the everglade and after continuous rain for a week straight his bilge stopped working and the boat started to list to one side...the ttop was practically in the water. Of course they are unsinkable....but does everything on the deck empty into the bilge??? I don't know??

Red_Tag
01-10-2006, 03:47 AM
Well .. we splashed my SP 26 today. Only took her for a 10 min run - no GPS, no Sounder and lots of shallow water. It was blowing 15 knots with a 2' chop.

But I have to say (and I *could* be biased here) she is unbelievable. Incredible ride, feels as solid as a rock up/down/cross wind and not a drop of water anywhere.

What surprised me most was how agile she was. I reckon at 30 knots she's equally maneouvrable as my last 19'.

:thumbsup:

Tomorrow we're going to fit the GPS so we can head out offshore on Saturday.

;cool;

dor
01-10-2006, 09:56 AM
I like the looks of the Southport but have never been on one. You should make it a point to take a test ride as it is the only way to tell how it rides. Owned a Grady 25 WA and was not impressed with ride or quality. Owned a Regulator 23 great boat!!! Dont pay any attention to "Boat Reviews" by Dean Travis Clarke he has never found a boat he didnt think was great. Reviews are truly lacking in substance. Boat manufacture's might as well write them but they hire a whore instead.

dor
01-10-2006, 12:32 PM
For all those interested there is a nice boat review for Angler Boats on the Saltwater Sportman site by their boat review columnist Mr. Lear

packfan
01-10-2006, 01:50 PM
I'm one of the few people who have sea trialed both of these boats (plus a Regulator) in the same day.

Southport is the better boat period, the ride really isn't even close. It's like comparing a Toyota Camry to a Lexus LS430.

dheadingto
01-10-2006, 04:05 PM
try a Jupiter 31 very easy head entry and quality boat excellent ride even in 4-5 ft

cobraarvey
01-10-2006, 04:28 PM
Jupiter 31 will cost you quite a bit more coin than the Southport 28. It will also cost more to run, as the Yami specs I have seen don't come anywhere near the over 2 mile per gallon rate the Southport burns at cruise. Quality boat, but will definitely hurt the wallet more.

HUP
01-10-2006, 06:33 PM
Well i just got my estimate on installation of my electronics on my 28cc southport and am looking for some opinions. I am installing a Ray E120, WAAS Antenna, 4kw raydome, Ray digital sounder module, In-hull transducer, uniden um-625c VHF, Digital Antenna, Northstar 952 GPS and of course labor...I have yet to opt for autopilot...labor itself is over $4000 with the total being around $16,000...what doesn everyone think..does anyone have a good installation guy on long island, NY?

ant1
01-10-2006, 07:06 PM
HUP - 1/10/2006 6:33 PM


Well i just got my estimate on installation of my electronics on my 28cc southport and am looking for some opinions. I am installing a Ray E120, WAAS Antenna, 4kw raydome, Ray digital sounder module, In-hull transducer, uniden um-625c VHF, Digital Antenna, Northstar 952 GPS and of course labor...I have yet to opt for autopilot...labor itself is over $4000 with the total being around $16,000...what doesn everyone think..does anyone have a good installation guy on long island, NY?


Holy moly,kind of alot of money to spend on a 28 footer,no?I'm looking to buy a Southport also,a 26,I was thinking of Ray c120 with gps,fish,and radar,and the dealer gave me a rough figure of +$5000.

packfan
01-10-2006, 07:32 PM
Here's how many Southports here in NC are sold.
Price of 28 with F250's is ~$165,000

Furuno Navnet 1834C Package, including (about $5000)

-GPS Receiver

-Color 50/200 fishfinder

-Navionics plotter w/ch

-36 mile Radar

ICOM M502 VHF

Simrad Autopilot

Other specs on the boat:

Vacuflush electric head

Freshwater system

Saltwater wash-down

Leaning post/backrest/tackle station

Custom t-top

Tilt helm/ custom steering wheel

Battery charging system

Stereo/CD system

Boarding ladder

Polished stainless anchor upgrade

T-top outriggers (installed)

Side curtains for t-top

HUP
01-10-2006, 07:40 PM
That is what I thought...most of the equipment is over priced and the installation is $4500. Makes me want to do it myself

islandlure
01-11-2006, 02:17 PM
I bought a 26 southport back in sept. what an awsome boat

Red_Tag
01-12-2006, 05:39 AM
I started installation yesterday. Full Navnet VX2 setup with 10", 7" screens and 2kw/3kw sounders.

So far I have the screens installed and powered up, GPS antenna in and receiving, network hub in and powered up, ICOM VHF radio installed with antenna and powered up.

The difficult bit is the in-hull tranducers - the wetbox will take a little thinking about.

At the end of the day, if you are mechanically sound/can read electric diagrams, it isnt rocket science. Just take your time and enjoy the process!!!

bobdu11
01-13-2006, 07:53 AM
Just wanna hop on this thread and say good purchase. I am taking custody of my 28'6 southport next week. I rode several boats before making my decision. Rode the Seavee 31, Grady 30, regulator, contender and even rode a fountain. For fishing out of Vabeach and the runs out to the Canyons you can't beat the SP. The ride is the best on the water, dry boat (they all say that but this one really is) and the price is very competitive for the size. I opted for the Yamaha 225 4 strokes, about 3 MPH less at full open but slightly better on Gas consumption. have the Furuno 36M Navnet 1833, and the 1850 Furuno chartplotter/fishfinder/GPS with through Hull Transducer. 3 Sided curtains for those cold runs in the winter after striper. Had two more rod holders mounted on the aft gunnel and put a 4 rod rocket launcher on the transom. Can't wait for Tuna season to kick in. Should be out on the water by next weekend fishing this beast for striper !

Good luck with your new boat, it's definately a winner and bound to be one of the tried and true best Center Consoles out there. Just gonna take time for the word to get out there....

Bob DuBell
VABeach, VA....Boat name...Still Think'n

Afishinado
01-13-2006, 08:53 AM
Good luck with your purchase!

Last night I was on a friends brand new 306 F250's, (traded in a 34 Venture on it), the guy also has one in NJ (a 99? w/250 OX-66's). The new boat layout has a lot of improvements over the old which I felt was outstanding to begin with. These South Ports must be something else is all I can say at this point. Hard to believe it's even nicer than the new 306

packfan
01-13-2006, 09:49 AM
bobdu11 - 1/13/2006 7:53 AM

Just wanna hop on this thread and say good purchase. I am taking custody of my 28'6 southport next week. I rode several boats before making my decision. Rode the Seavee 31, Grady 30, regulator, contender and even rode a fountain. For fishing out of Vabeach and the runs out to the Canyons you can't beat the SP. The ride is the best on the water, dry boat (they all say that but this one really is) and the price is very competitive for the size. I opted for the Yamaha 225 4 strokes, about 3 MPH less at full open but slightly better on Gas consumption. have the Furuno 36M Navnet 1833, and the 1850 Furuno chartplotter/fishfinder/GPS with through Hull Transducer. 3 Sided curtains for those cold runs in the winter after striper. Had two more rod holders mounted on the aft gunnel and put a 4 rod rocket launcher on the transom. Can't wait for Tuna season to kick in. Should be out on the water by next weekend fishing this beast for striper !

Good luck with your new boat, it's definately a winner and bound to be one of the tried and true best Center Consoles out there. Just gonna take time for the word to get out there....

Bob DuBell
VABeach, VA....Boat name...Still Think'n


Wow! Why not the F250's. The F225's only put out about 218 hp, while the F250's put out around 260Hp. You are going to have to run those 225's aweful hard. I don't think the 225's will be much more economical.

ant1
01-13-2006, 09:54 AM
The 225's are fine on the 28'.The boat still does a little more than 50mph. Correct me if I'm wrong,but don't the new F225's put out more than 218 hp?

packfan
01-13-2006, 10:17 AM
ant1 - 1/13/2006 9:54 AM

The 225's are fine on the 28'.The boat still does a little more than 50mph. Correct me if I'm wrong,but don't the new F225's put out more than 218 hp?

Perhaps, but not unless Yamaha has revised them for 2006.

50 mph with 200 gallons of fuel?????
I sea trialed a SP 28 with F250's w/50 gallons fuel and 3 adults.
We only hit 52-53 mph, but the engines had less than 1 hr on them. Once the are broken in I expect it will hit 54-55mph.

bobdu11
01-16-2006, 06:34 AM
The 225's were the best bang for the buck. The Boat will run comfortably at 50 plus MPH and the engines are not working that hard at that speed. I imagine I will be running between 37 - 42 Mph offshore during the summer here in VaBeach knowing the way the water is that time of the year. Biggest reason for buying this boat was the unbelievably smooth and dry ride, entry back into the water after getting air was really not comparable to any boat I've ridden on. Really looking forward to picking her up this week and hopefully getting back out after some stripers this weekend. The dealer took my old boat in trade so I was boatless this weekend....not a good feeling....Bob

cobraarvey
01-16-2006, 10:22 AM
bobdu11, best of luck on the new boat. Keep us posted on your new purchase. Would love to hear more.

HUP
01-16-2006, 10:45 PM
My 28 southport will be here on long island this weekend. Will post pictures when I get them....anyone else have pictures of their 28cc.....

captsuperfly
01-17-2006, 05:35 PM
I'd love to see pics. I've really been admiring the boat. My buddy is looking hard at 28 footers right now. Where on LI are you?

HUP
01-17-2006, 06:17 PM
I live on the south shore in Long Beach...I purchased the boat from Strong's Marine out in Mattituck. Tell your friend to drop me an email I can give him my contact info at Strongs...they have been great. Will post pictures soon!!!

jrabbit
01-19-2006, 08:10 PM
Hey Hup...

Good luck with the boat this weekend. I had meant to reply to you sooner.

Not sure if you chose your electronics yet. But the E120 is killer... Got a lot of the guys on the dock with all types of equipment and the E120 with the Navionics Platinum is the envy of all.

Went with a transom mount transducer on my 26CC dealer recomended it due to trailering and performance. Not sure if just didn't want to do the work required with a through hull. I'm happy with it.

Getting the Raydome installed this weekend with along with some cosmetic warranty work.

Let me know what you decide to do about a companion display.

Good luck!
Dave
Boston, MA

HUP
01-20-2006, 06:19 PM
Hey jrabbit,

Actually I won't see the boat until next weekend. The dealer called me today and let me know that it is coming in on Monday. I too have opted for the Raymarine package. As for a companion display the jury is still out. I can't fit another Raymarine on the boat so I have looked at the Northstar 952. The unit costs about $1500 and then the install cost. I am leaning toward just a handheld GPS from Garmin. I'm not making runs far off shore all that often so the backup GPS really isn't necessary right now. I figured I would install it later if I need to..also wanted to keep the cost down on the install. By the way what were you charged on your install for your equipment?

jrabbit
01-22-2006, 11:46 AM
Hey HUP...

Not sure how good I did on the electronics costs... just had the dealer do it... didn't shop it around too much... looks something like this including install:

E120 with Gold Chart: $4870 (later returned the Gold Chart)
Navionics Platinum Chip: $500ish
Raymarin ST-40 Digital Depthsounder thuhull: $560 (later changed to transom mount, not sure of cost diff)
ICom M602 VHF with Hailer: $1495
Radome 4KW - $1500ish (being installed this week)

I looked into the C60 as a companion... didn't like that. I, too, dont go out too far... mostly Boston Boating and a few Cape Cod trips.

We currently have three SP26CC's on our dock. One is still not outfitted with electronics... the other has a Furuno system with one big display and a 4' open array on top.

Good luck this week!
Dave

2020is
01-22-2006, 02:27 PM
bobdu11 - 1/13/2006 8:53 AM

Just wanna hop on this thread and say good purchase. I am taking custody of my 28'6 southport next week. I rode several boats before making my decision. Rode the Seavee 31, Grady 30, regulator, contender and even rode a fountain. For fishing out of Vabeach and the runs out to the Canyons you can't beat the SP. The ride is the best on the water, dry boat (they all say that but this one really is) and the price is very competitive for the size. I opted for the Yamaha 225 4 strokes, about 3 MPH less at full open but slightly better on Gas consumption. have the Furuno 36M Navnet 1833, and the 1850 Furuno chartplotter/fishfinder/GPS with through Hull Transducer. 3 Sided curtains for those cold runs in the winter after striper. Had two more rod holders mounted on the aft gunnel and put a 4 rod rocket launcher on the transom. Can't wait for Tuna season to kick in. Should be out on the water by next weekend fishing this beast for striper !

Good luck with your new boat, it's definately a winner and bound to be one of the tried and true best Center Consoles out there. Just gonna take time for the word to get out there....

Bob DuBell
VABeach, VA....Boat name...Still Think'n

Would love to see a picture including the transom mount rocket launcher and the more aft rod holder placement along the gunnel. Congrats on the new ride.

bobdu11
01-24-2006, 05:45 PM
how do you post pictures ? I picked up my Southport 28'6 on Thursday and went fishing on Saturday, there was a 20 - 25KT South wind, 3 - 5 chop and the boat cruised through it at 40 Kts with no problems, DRY BOAT...and I mean dry boat...smooth riding boat, I am truly amazed, this was the kind of slop that would beat the heck out of your normally but I could sit down and drive with no problems. This boat will become legendary down the road, I'm sure of it.....OH...we limited out on 25 - 30 pound striper also...not bad for the maiden voyage !......somebody tell me how to install pictures and I'll put em up....Bob

GWcpa
01-24-2006, 06:24 PM
I'll give it a try.... nice rig. Need pics in the water.


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ant1
01-24-2006, 06:40 PM
Congrats and good luck. They are awesome boats,and make most others seem ordinary. :thumbsup:

CTBob
01-24-2006, 07:08 PM
Glad to see that others are now extolling the virtures of the Southport ride. The boats are truely making a statement in the short time they have been out. I went to the Hartford, CT boat show this past weekend and cannot wait to get my boat back in the water. Spoke to Frank Longino at the show and expressed to him how satisfied I am with my boat. He, as well as the rest of the folks at Southport, are real down to earth, sincere people always willing to answer any questions, listen to suggestions, and be of help in any way they can.

Red_Tag
01-24-2006, 09:08 PM
Congrats Bobdu11! Great looking boat. I love the ride on my SP26 but the SP28 must be even better.

That front deck on the 28 would make an unbelievable casting platform.

And I agree with Bob, Frank Longino and the guys at Southport have been really, really helpful.

Hey Ant, how far away is your decision?

2020is
01-24-2006, 09:24 PM
That boat makes me want to sell my practice and fish full time(too bad I'm a better eye doctor than fisherman!!!). That is a beautiful ride for sure!!!!!

HUP
01-24-2006, 11:47 PM
Great looking boat Gwcpa....I agree with many of you on the site about the southports. The boat and the people behind it are bound to become legends. When I went down to the plant Frank, Alton and Brad all treated me with all the respect in the world. I wasn't issued a long sales pitch...just good people that stand behind their product...that sold me. Mine just arrived today on long island and will be headed out tomorrow to see the new boat. Hopefully I will have some pictures to post.

trophyfish58
01-25-2006, 12:05 AM
Awesome boat!!!!!!! From the pics, the winshield looks difficult to see thru. Is it just the camera angle?

bobdu11
01-25-2006, 05:11 AM
it's just the camera....I have more visibility on this boat than any other boat I've owned....seeing is definately not a problem....Bob

Afishinado
02-22-2006, 06:43 AM
I drug this back up because I finally got to see the Southports at Miami. Been dying to see them since I read this post. I didn't ride one... But, I think we just have a bunch here that likes throwing rocks GW... Cut me a break, the boat is very very nice, nicer layout than the beloved Regulator, a good move up from a 26. But it is not in the same class as a 306 Bimini. It's not even as nice as the older version Bimini, let alone the new one.

troll
02-22-2006, 10:11 AM
Afishinado:

I was also curious about the SP 28 after all the discussion here. While I am a long time GW fan, I must admit the SP28 is one nice boat in layout, finish, etc. I spend over a half hour with one of the owners (Carl) who took the time to show my all the features even though I was wearing a GW sweatshirt. He has a good relationship with other builders and mentioned there is room for several high end boats in this size range. Friendly competition is good for the consumer.

I had the opportunity to go back and forth several times between this boat and the newly designed GW 306. They are both beautiful, high end boats with different priorities. The SP is reported to have a better ride but as always, most folks take this to mean a head sea. The hulls are designed by the same folks at Ray Hunt but SP chose to go with a 22 degree deadrise while the GW hull has 19.5. I would expect the GW to be more stable and in fact the factory engineers have repeatedly told me their customers do NOT want a deep V hull. Of course if ride is the PRIMARY consideration the 24+ degree hulls on Contenders and Regulators may be what a person is looking for.

I preferred the design and features of the GW, especially the seating, transom door, head compartment, electronics mounting. The SP had some nicer finish in the transom area, some sharp looking SS around the outside edge, very nice fishboxes, and some extras such as boltless mounts on rod holders, etc.

I don't believe in "one boat fits all" anymore then I believe in the Easter bunny. Anyone who is shopping for a boat in this size range should look at both of these and the Regs, Contenders, and some others as well. I prefer cabin boats so my choices in this size are GW and Pursuit.

PJJR
02-22-2006, 01:11 PM
Hey, Hey: " Come see the bearded lady, the sword swallower etc." This thread is a carnival barker's, self praising ,unabashedly self serving advertisement for Southport, by what 4-5 people? Please, they may be great boats, but enough is enough. I agree with Afishanado :roll

Reel Pursuit
02-22-2006, 01:20 PM
Hey, what's all this talk about the Easter Bunny? Next you'll tell me there's no tooth fairy either. I knew this was gonna be a bad day.

radioshop
02-22-2006, 04:20 PM
The Grady White is a very nice mass production boat. I think the quality is decent but not awesome. I would take the Southport over the Grady. I was impressed by the Southport at the Miami Boat Show. The Grady had some chinsy qualities to it. Now if you're looking for third options, I cannot say enough about Whitewater. They're a small batch builder in between the prices on the Southport and, Grady. You may have to wait a few months but in the end you'll get an amazing boat. Do a search, I defy you to find one bad word about Whitewaters.

go fish
02-22-2006, 05:18 PM
radioshop - 2/22/2006 4:20 PM

The Grady White is a very nice mass production boat. I think the quality is decent but not awesome. I would take the Southport over the Grady. I was impressed by the Southport at the Miami Boat Show. The Grady had some chinsy qualities to it. Now if you're looking for third options, I cannot say enough about Whitewater. They're a small batch builder in between the prices on the Southport and, Grady. You may have to wait a few months but in the end you'll get an amazing boat. Do a search, I defy you to find one bad word about Whitewaters.

Whitewater and Southport may be good, but how many JD Power awards have they won? That is one of the reasons to step up to the Grady.

Red_Tag
02-22-2006, 06:13 PM
go fish - 2/22/2006 6:18 PM

Whitewater and Southport may be good, but how many JD Power awards have they won? That is one of the reasons to step up to the Grady.

Sure, sure.

Now that's a *compelling* reason to step up/down/sideways to anything.

:)

radioshop
02-23-2006, 02:27 PM
go fish - 2/22/2006 5:18 PM

[QUOTE]radioshop - 2/22/2006 4:20 PM

Whitewater and Southport may be good, but how many JD Power awards have they won? That is one of the reasons to step up to the Grady.

Go Fish, you may have me there. I checked out J.D. Power and didn't see Whitewater listed. I also didn't see Rybovich, Merritt, Contender, SeaVee or, others that some may consider to be quality boats. I was a little disapointed to see such a narrow selection of vessels listed by J.D. Power, but I think that's because you have to achieve higher sales than small batch builders can produce in order to be considered. I would not call Grady a step up over Whitewater or, Southport. You simply cannot beat small batch shops hanging their entire existance on each hull.

SeaJay
02-23-2006, 03:02 PM
I guess that must mean if a boat hasn't won a JD powers award it isn't worth owning.

Red_Tag
02-23-2006, 05:23 PM
SeaJay - 2/23/2006 4:02 PM

I guess that must mean if a boat hasn't won a JD powers award it isn't worth owning.

Yes, I'm thinking about sending mine back ...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

itwonder
02-23-2006, 05:29 PM
HUP - 1/8/2006 10:21 PM

Sounds like a great set up...I have been sold on the Ray equipment just need to figure out how to get two displays...I was thinking about two E80's...anyone out there have a set up like this? Any thoughts on inhull transducer over transom mount///

Yes. Go with a top of the line Aimar transducer, either a B258 or a B260. They are available for Raymarine. These come in transom mount (really ugly commercial style mount), thru-hull (requires some type of fairing), or in hull. In hull mounts against the inside of the hull in a tank you fill with RV antifreeze, and it shoots through the fiberglass bottom. With in hull, you will need to install a separate temperature sensor.

Probably the best would be the thru-hull installed during construction of the boat, glassed in and custom faired into the bottom. If mid-range transducer performance is alright, you could use the new Airmar B60-20 tilted element flush mount thru hull transducer. It's all on Airmar's web site, www.airmar.com.

HUP
02-23-2006, 05:36 PM
Hey Bob,

I went with the B260 inhull mounted transducer. I will be on a lift and didn't want the thru-hull transducer with fairing block. I didn't want to take the chance of knocking the block off when on the lift. I have been told by many that the inhull will work out just fine...we will see. Very true I will not get temp readings. I have been looking at the sirius/Raymarine weather station the will have water temperature patterns....



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