Dockside Chat - Attn: Parents who are taking your kids on a plane

I personally like kids, however, please keep a few things in mind. On an airline flight, it is not proper to allow your child to:

1. Scream and yell and be a complete anoyance to EVERYONE ON BOARD THE FLIGHT. I understand that kids are sometimes chatty, this is fine, please keep this muffled to a dull roar. Also, it is not appropriate to be equally as loud as the child when trying to quiet them.

2. Constantly kick the hell out of the seat in front of them. This is very important with me. Chances are if I am on a flight, I am not going on vacation, and am therefor not really all that happy that I am flying. I want to sleep. Your uncontrolled brat should not interupt this with their feet in my back. Use duck tape if necessary, if you don't have any, use your belt.

3. Don't feed them tons of candy and caffine. I mean really, are you people dumb. Sugar and caffine make kids get really wired. Wired kids have no place on board a plane full of people flying for business.

4. If you happen to choose to entertain your spoiled kid by means of a portable DVD player or other similar device (which I highly recomend), USE HEADPHONES. Nobody around you wants to hear the entire audio tract of Spongbob while trying to take a nap.

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One more, if I may, please?
Parents, that fold-down tray on the back of the seat in front of you is NOT a diaper-changing table, no.
Its intended and proper function is as a dining-table for passengers who want to consume food and/or drinks from it........and they do NOT want to consume your child's excretions. :roll

What ticks me off is the ahole that thinks the entire plane wants to hear his inane cell phone conversation....get a life dork.

Re: autobaun's issues......I really don't experience that type of behavior in the front of the plane.......one of the privileges of flying 2,000,000 miles I guess.

I have heard it can get unruly back there in steerage class.....but what do you expect from the commoners? The only time I even go back in that section is if I have to take a dump and do not want to upset my fine neighbors while they eat caviar, toss down fine wines and drinks and are serviced by the flight attendants. :rofl:

BTW - if you are up front the attendants will change your children's diapers for you......at least that way they have some "poor man's pate" to serve to the little people.

David, you are forgetting, I am in Cola, not the great metroplex that is your hometown, with there big airport. Multi class planes don't usually land here, we are thus thrown to the sharks that come along with express jet travel.

autobaun70 - 10/7/2005 1:48 PM

I personally like kids



Good.....you can have mine :thumbsup:


Some people.....especially some adults can be very inconsiderate of others. I have it happen all the time, but then again I teach elementary school. My pet peeve is the movie theater, because I don't fly.....similar to the airplane.....just no flying.

I'll include taking your kids to a restaurant. I had to move across the restaurant last night b/c some disgusting slob didn't give a rats a$$ that her brat was screaming at the top of it's lungs. Of course, after we moved, I had the pleasure of having her extra disgusting self right in my line of sight while she shoved too much food in her fat white trash fugly face while she held her other brat on her knee outside the booth where the people next to her had to look at that fugly brat face. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Tireless - 10/7/2005 2:09 PM

What ticks me off is the ahole that thinks the entire plane wants to hear his inane cell phone conversation....get a life dork.

Re: autobaun's issues......I really don't experience that type of behavior in the front of the plane.......one of the privileges of flying 2,000,000 miles I guess.

I have heard it can get unruly back there in steerage class.....but what do you expect from the commoners? The only time I even go back in that section is if I have to take a dump and do not want to upset my fine neighbors while they eat caviar, toss down fine wines and drinks and are serviced by the flight attendants. :rofl:

BTW - if you are up front the attendants will change your children's diapers for you......at least that way they have some "poor man's pate" to serve to the little people.

I completely agree. When my G5 is in for service, it get's pretty inconvienent when I have to travel with all the cattle that fly those commercial airliners. They say that sometimes you have to step out of your ivory tower and mingle with the minions. Just make sure you have your bodyguards and hand sanitizer nearby. Wouldn't want to catch anything from the lowlys. :grin:

tough crowd. i take my kids up front with me when we travel. f%*&*k y'all.

also jetblue and song are great; the tv in the seat keeps the kids occupied the whole flight :thumbsup:

This topic always gets me mad. This summer I was flying to Spain,and had a mother with 2 kids just across the isle.This dummy had so much crap with her,that she had to use "my" overhead compartment. She was in this thing constantly.First she dropped what I think was a laptop computer on my head,then she starts rubbing my head,so I go watch the hair,I mean come on.Then about 4 hours go by,I'm half asleep,and I feel drips on my head,this idiot was trying to get a babys bottle out of her bag and it was leaking on my head!!!. I actually said "what the F***" . I'm so sorry,sorry.. boy was I pissed.If you can afford business or first class,I recommend it.

Tireless - 10/7/2005 1:09 PM

What ticks me off is the ahole that thinks the entire plane wants to hear his inane cell phone conversation....get a life dork.



Last week I was traveling and waiting for the boarding call. This guy is on one of those PDA type phones with a wireless ear piece. He's holding the phone about a foot away from his mouth. I'm just trying to read my fishing magazines and all I can hear is this guy on the phone. His seat was actually about 30 ft away, but he had to get up and walk over by me to use the phone. Finally I told the guy that I didn,t want to hear his onesided conversation. I know he heard me but just ignored me :mad:. A few minutes later he looks directly at me and I mouthed the words "shut the F*@k up!" and he just smiles at me and slowly walks away. I was ready to rip the thing out of his hand and smash it.


The kid kicking the seat annoys me too. I've asked more than 1 parent to have their kids to please stop.

Kids on plane issue - If you are going to bring your kids on a plane trip, please read (and follow) the dosage recommendations for Benadryl, or any cold medicine that causes drowsiness.



And give some to your kid, too.

Oh, come on ~ You guys are WIMPS!

You get up out of your seat - go back to where ever the unruly child is and cut loose on THEM while the parent is sitting there. Not sayin' ya havta yell - just get your point across. ;)

Works evy time... :thumbsup: (Mayjor Payne)

:Q

I usually just tell the mother that I have Hepititus C and I "just don't want the child to catch anything since there little immune systems are so WEAK"! Mom= "Flight Attendant.........Flight Attendant........can we please change seats??????"

What really killed me today, I was flying home for a wedding, which has now been delayed until the end of the month. I had to fly from DFW to chicago, then to columbia. On both planes I had 4 or 5 year old girls on them in the seat behind me, and both times, they acted exactly as I described above. The parent, father in one case, mother in the other, acted as though there was nothing that they could do. The first flight was at 6am, so I was already not happy about the fact that I was up that early and in an airport, the kid nearly put me over the edge. When they anounced that they were serving liquor on the flight, I seriously considered it. I had serious words with the father (who was just as loud as the kid was) of the child on the second flight, who basically told me it wasn't his fault that his kid was acting up, at which point I and the guy next to me basically told him to make the kid shut the f### up (we used kosher language b/c of the kid, but he got the point). Both of these parents seem to be of the "time out" aproach to child raising, and IMO they should get thier a$$ whiped along with their kids. When I was that age, I would have gotten a look from either of my parents to straighten up or else, and I always knew that or else wasn't a fun option. And the fun part, I get to take the same route back to tx monday morning bright and early.

My kids are very well behaved on flights, and in public in general. I am not disagreeing with you so much as presenting the other side.

Imagine waking at 4:00am to make a 8:00 am flight. Getting the kids up and dressed. Feeding them. Suitcases ready. Ride to the airport. Making sure you have Susie's effing Elmo and Willy's effing blanket. Bathroom trips. Going through security hell. I could go on. The point is that because I have gone through this with three of the buggers, perhaps I am a lot more tolerant when I am flying solo or on business. Frequently I bring a deck of cards to do a few magic tricks for other uppity kids when I fly on business. It boils down to philosophy. You ca ncurse them and work yourself up while you futiely try to catch 7 winks, or make their day, feel better about yourself, perhaps make a friend, AND be less stressed in the process. I have actually gained a business account, who was an appreciative parent of an uppity child on a plane I was on.

But yeah...I see your points too.
Sal

I really don't think it's the kids that get everyone pissed off. Yeah maybe directly it is the kids. But kids don't know any better if they aren't taught different. It's the parents that should be taken off the plane and beaten. Maybe on the next kid, they'll learn that parking their a$$'s in front of a tv as soon as they're home from school isn't considered parenting. It's called being a lazy sack of $hit.

my whole this is, I understand, kids will be kids, there is no doubt about that. However, parents should take the responsibility to be parents as well. IMO that includes making sure your kids don't take the step from just being kids, to being a complete anoyance to EVERYONE around them. I have no problem with a somewhat chatty child who is amazed at the concept of flying, I remember that time in my life. However, for a parent to tell me that there is basically nothing that they can do to keep their child from kicking the back of my seat constantly is complete BS. Take whatever parenting aproach that you want to, but IMO whatever aproach that you chose should include being able to control your kids at a moments notice. There is only so much that you can write off as being "childish behavior", everything beyond that is the direct responsibility of the parent.

Oh, man ~ Auto, so sorry to hear that you had to make that painful flight back home only to find out the wedding's being put off til the end of the month...~!!! :o :o

Wish you could have found this info out BEFORE flying all the way back home. You coulda stayed with us and had a MUCH better time ~ ;) And I promise that MY kids would NOT kick the back of your chair. HA!!

In fact, just so you'll know ~ you have permission to kick my kid's chair (or their backside) if they act up when you visit. However, at ages 9 and going on 13, I don't think it'll be a problem.. Heh-heh...

BTW - hope you like to toss the football around as that seems to be one of our favorite past times as of late. (Football season, ya know) :grin: Do you like touch or tackle better...?? :o :grin: :rofl: :rofl:

:Q

On a plane I will first approach the parent with words. When this approach doesn't work I'll nab the next attendant that walks by. Generally my words goes something like this:
....Excuse me Mam/ Sir
....I've politely asked the parent(s) behind me to have their child (children) stop treating the back on my seat like it was some sort of trampoline or about all the yelling, screaming, fighting, bickering, crying, but this has not helped.
....Don’t get me wrong, I appreciated children being free children, but this should not be at “my” expense - I don’t even know them and I am not enjoying this.
....I didn't pay admission for a school bus ride to (where every it is that you are going) with (whatever airlines) nor (or) did I pay admission to romp-a-room class. Now I would appreciate you bringing this situation under control once and for all....for good! or find me a other seat to where I may relax in the relative comfort of (whatever airlines you are flying). Isn’t this what (name of airline) expects all passengers should experience? Sorry but I feel I am paying way to much money to have to endure this...I am not happy about this.

In a restaurant I expect to be moved that or I leave - food on the table or not.

Geeez after reading this even I think I come across as a crustttty old fart :o :roll - BUT I’M NOT - I love children being children; :) ;cool; just not sometimes! :thumbsup:

Let's see the last flights I had was back in May '05. San Antonio to Houston to New Orleans.

Afternoon flight Southwest Airlines, I have an A baording pass so I can board right after the pregnant women. I board and as my habit as soon as I get on I plop my butt into the first available seat on the right. No luggage, no carry on, just me and my book. It is very interesting to watch the other folks get on sometimes, you can hear the mental gears grinding over seat selection and stuff like that. What the heck are they doing it's only 45 minutes to Houston. Ahh! I thought it was all going to be fine, 45 minutes, I can take anything for 45 minutes. First thing I hear is a wailing type sound coming from the loading ramp, sounds kinda like an 18 wheeler truck with the breaks locked up. How in the hell does any human make that kinda noise. It's a kid about 3 or 4 years old suspended by the arms between mom and dad, they each have an arm, using them to tote him on the plane. Evidently "Bruce" does not like to fly, far as I can tell he must not like much of anything, but he sure as hell loves to wail like a banshee. Well mom and dad proceed on to the plane with Bruce a dangling, this type of handling leaves Bruces feet and legs free. He is using them on the other passengers as they walk sideways down the isle, not enough room in the isle to walk side by side. So we hear Bruce's wailing and mommie and daddy matching his wailing with sorry, excuse me, I am so sorry, Bruce please stop. So on and so forth. The go all the way to the back of the plane, the people around me are all exchanging thank God looks. The plane loads, engines start, we are backed out, cleared for taxi, taxi to the end of the runway and that's when it went to he!! in a hand cart. We were put on hold for what seemed like 16 hours, in fact it was only 10 minutes. But Bruce is in the back of the plane and he is really rolling now. His wailing rises to a peak and then falls off to a suttle scream, each time he catches his breath it's a stutter stop type ratchet sound. At each pause everyone on the plane is either thinking he has finally shut up or maybe mommie or daddy has strangled the little imp. But each and every time the wailing starts anew, with all the pasengers in the plane jumping like we have been electrocuted at the start. We get clearance and away we go. Take offs have always been a high anxiety event for me, what with the sudden acceleration, feeling of inertia, engine noise, flaps and gears making noise, but I have never ever hoped more in my life that the plane would just crash and put everyone out of thier combined misery. That child wailed the entire distance from San Antonio to Houston. You guys can not imagine the noise, every passenger on that plane was either ready to jump or kill Bruce or Bruce and his parents. Landing in Houston, once again the screaming began it's rise and fall type stuttering, snot blowing melody. Never have I ever seen a plane load of adults try to get off a plane faster, myself included, I think even the pilot, co-pilot and stewardess were waiting at the door before the plane come to a stop. When I saw that crack of daylight in the door I was out of my seat like a shot and I OJed it out of there.

Figuring to myself that the flight to New Orleans can not be that bad, no way could it be that bad, if the plane's wing caught on fire, it couldn't be that bad.

But no! 90 minute lay over, once again I got an A boarding pass, once again, on the plane plop my butt first available seat on the right. Why? I don't know, it's just me. I am once again sitting and enjoying watching the people get on the plane. AND IT HAPPENS! Here comes the biggest, largest, fluffiest, mostest spread out piece of humanity I have ever seen. This gal has got to be 400# hanging weight. And no! Please no! For the love of all What is Holy, she is sitting down next to me. The plane is actually listing now, somebody needs to tell the pilot, he's gonna have to taxi half way to New Orleans before he is going to be able to get this thing in the air. And when he does it's gonna pull some kinda bad to the right. Well I have never been called a heavy weight, it's only been in the last few years that I have even looked well fed. I am crammed against the window, I know what it feels like to be a fish in an aquarium now. Big Momma is taking up TWO SEATS, that's right, the stewardess has raised the armrest between the other two seats and I guess Big Momma has paid for a double up. Then the smell assaults my senses, it is some sort of perfume, it is killing me, it is ripping the breath right out of my body. What is it that make women think men like that stuff, this is awfull. Once again we taxi, we take off, we are on our way. I get the little air vent thingy blowing my way, it's not good but what the heck I am surviving, that's what it's all about survival. Big Momma, well she is getting visibly uncomfortable, what's going on? Oh No! She's starting to sweat, is their no end to the injustices of life? We land in New Orleans, naturally I cannot move until my fluffy companion gets up and gets off the plane. But she ain't moving, she is just sitting there. What in the hell is she waiting on a fork lift? A front end loader? Maybe a back end loader? Finally, after every one else is off she raises her ponderous pachaderm self up and deplanes. I am the last one off the plane, but of what soothing sent is New Orleans, ahhh, diesel exhaust fumes never have they smelled so sweet.

A few minutes later when my wife picked me up in front of the terminal, I didn't say hello, I love you, how you are, nothing. I told her that the next time I would fly on an airline that has a first class seating section or I'd walk home, either way it didn't matter to me. It took me two full days to get my nerves and my breathing back under control.

farmerjane - 10/7/2005 5:16 PM

Oh, come on ~ You guys are WIMPS!

You get up out of your seat - go back to where ever the unruly child is and cut loose on THEM while the parent is sitting there. Not sayin' ya havta yell - just get your point across. ;)

Works evy time... :thumbsup: (Mayjor Payne)

:Q

I almost did this one time at O'Hare. We were grounded, away from the gate, for 3 hours, and if I hadn't done what I did a mutiny would have resulted after the first hour.

A very inexperienced father was onboard with his infant. The minute the pilot parked the plane in the retention area and killed the engines the baby started to scream. I, along with the rest of the packed plane, just twitched and grimaced as the father tried to quiet his child. He tried walking the screaming child up and down the aisles but wasn't getting anywhere. I noticed the way he was holding the child and it looked uncomfortable to me. The kid's legs were hanging out from under his arms and his/her head wasn't supported worth a darn.

At the hour mark I couldn't take it anymore and went back to the dad and made him an offer. I told him I was an expert at calming my kids, my nieces and nephews, my friend's kids etc. I told him I could quiet the child in under a minute if he let me hold him/her for just a moment. I did what I always did......secure the child firmly against my chest, rock side to side.....and this is the killer move......hum "Silent Night" deep and loud enough that the child feels the vibrations through my chest. Before a minute was up the child fell silent and I swear the father looked like he was going to cry.

And now the good part....as I looked around the plane, standing there with the child in my arms, almost everybody I saw was giving me a "silent" standing ovation. I continued this for about 15 minutes until I knew the child was dead asleep, gave him/her back to his dad and tried to get back to my seat with everybody giving me pats on the back, hand shakes, etc.......one lady stood up and hugged me for my efforts. For the next 2 hours the plane was unbelievably quiet as nobody wanted to stir the resting bear.

Finally, I don't like to drink on planes but made an exception when the flight attendants were pestering me to have a free cocktail every time they walked by my seat.......I was hammered by the time I got home and grabbed a taxi for the final leg to my house. My wife just smiled when I told her the story .... she said if she had been on the plane she would have sent me back there to do the very same thing.

Quite honestly I had forgotten this event until I read Jane's post. Lastly, every once in a while my kid's remember the "Silent Night" treatment and ask me to give them a hug and hum a few bars......they are teenagers now but it puts a smile on their faces to this day. :thumbsup:

tender loving care from the heart.............good stuff....david :thumbsup:

After reading everybody's stories i remember why i usually drive on trips. Oh, and I have been on flights with the same kind of people, which is usually hard on me, because I have a low kid tolerance.

Tireless- I don't believe I speak only for my self but for a grateful nation as well : You deserve the Congressional Medal Of Honor AND the Nobull Peace Prize. No coal for you this Xmas.

Yea, pass the kleenex.





And the TP while your at it.

No offense to anyone here, but my kids are 3 and 6. They've been flying their whole lives. I keep a firm hand on my kids, but kids are kids and they WILL have melt-downs. If anyone thinks that is not the case then they forgot what it was like. We have to fly with them to visit my in-laws from time to time. When I can, I drive. My 6 year old would not even make a peep on the plane, but my 3 yr. old guy :o :o :o . My wife and I do our best to keep him calm......I WILL NOT drug him to keep him calm....I WILL NOT beat him to keep him calm. He has been spanked, but he's a tough little bugger and thankfully his melt-downs are subsiding.

If you think it's stressfull flying next to a little kid having a melt-down, try it as a parent doing your best to control it. If anyone sees me sweating trying to keep a little one quiet and tells me to shut the F^&ck up or gives me an attitude, it's gonna get ugly. I have a tremendous amount of tolerance for kids, no matter the situation.

Sorry my 2 cents. This thread hit a chord with me.

amen weakfish

I Second the amen to weakfish.. I have 3 kids..5yr girl and TWIN 2yr old boyzzzzzz. We just got back from Florida.. I did my best..

What do you think Benadryl is for!

WEAKFISH - 10/10/2005 9:16 AM

No offense to anyone here, but my kids are 3 and 6. They've been flying their whole lives. I keep a firm hand on my kids, but kids are kids and they WILL have melt-downs. If anyone thinks that is not the case then they forgot what it was like. We have to fly with them to visit my in-laws from time to time. When I can, I drive. My 6 year old would not even make a peep on the plane, but my 3 yr. old guy :o :o :o . My wife and I do our best to keep him calm......I WILL NOT drug him to keep him calm....I WILL NOT beat him to keep him calm. He has been spanked, but he's a tough little bugger and thankfully his melt-downs are subsiding.

If you think it's stressfull flying next to a little kid having a melt-down, try it as a parent doing your best to control it. If anyone sees me sweating trying to keep a little one quiet and tells me to shut the F^&ck up or gives me an attitude, it's gonna get ugly. I have a tremendous amount of tolerance for kids, no matter the situation.

Sorry my 2 cents. This thread hit a chord with me.

A-friggin-men WEAKFISH. You beat me to it.

I know this will get me roasted but here goes---

I know that children can be a pain in the ass some times, and yes you are all entitled to a peaceful flight/meal/movie/etc. but in debates like this one, it becomes painfully obvious that the "complainers" either have never had children to deal with or coulldn't figure it out with their own, and choose to take out their pent up regrets and anger on "nuisance" children. Don't forget that you are also entitled to get the f**k up and leave if you are not comfortable with your surroundings.

For all of you close minded folks who think other peoples kids should be kept out of sight so you don't have to deal with them, how in the world do you expect me to raise my son and (?)-my wife is one month pregnant :thumbsup: -to be well adjusted and normal functioning adults if they are not exposed to a myriad of life situations as they grow up? GET REAL. :roll

Maybe mistakes made by you or your parents are what give you such a mis-guided opinion of what your perfect little world should be like. I believe "Sheltered" is the term.

Having said that, yes I do get up and leave the restaurant if my 2-1/2 year old son gets out of hand, and yes he does have a good idea that he just f****d up by the time we make it to the car. Do I beat him-no. He learned pretty quickly what type of body language I use when he is in trouble, and a light smack on the ass or the back of the hand goes a long way with a two year old. I also bring entertainment-crayons and paper-as well as feed him before we go out so he isn't hungry and eat early so he isn't tired and ready for bed before the meal is over. Little tricks make life so much easier.

Will he act up again someday? Yes. Will he suffer the consequences? Yes. But by the time he is 3 or 4 years old he will understand what it means to "be good" when we are in public. The kids whose parents never took them out to dinner won't, you can count on it. Lets face it. There are many adults who still don't know how to act in public and never will. I bet their parents never took them out to dinner when they were little.

And when some poor guy, whose kids are freaking out at a restaurant, asks me how in the world I got my kids to be so polite and well mannered in public, I will simply tell him that I started them young and ruled the dinner table with a kind heart and and iron fist.

Be nice to your kids but let them know when they mess up. And like HOTSPOT says......

Do yourself a favor, take a kid fishing.

It might help you to lighten up a little. ;)

Well, the trip back to tx was much better today, had some parents with 2 kids right behind me who were very well behaved. I did get fussed at by the lady that was sitting next to me on the second leg, I was reading a fishing mag that had tons of dead fish, which she didn't find to be apropriate, then she explained she was a salad eater so it all made sense.

originalsin,weakfish

sounds like my life too......I have one that's almost 3(boy).....he already knows how to manipulate and get his way. We have had to leave the restaurant a few times and on countless ocassions take a walk while the other ate. Mine gets more timeout, than a pop on the ass, but he gets those too and when he does get the 5 finger medication it works well. He's learning, but than again he's not even 3. The past 2 nights he has been remodeling his bedroom......"peeling off the wallpaper, because he doesn't like the animals looking at him when he goes to sleep"(his words).

I got another.....a guy I know had his little 3yr old clean the mud off his brand new truck w/ a "ball pin hammer"!!!

IMO you got to be tough on them and sometimes they need a pop on the kaboose, but they also need to know you love 'em or that pop on the kaboose aint gonna work. :thumbsup:

whsyrdddy - 10/10/2005 6:47 PM

originalsin,weakfish

sounds like my life too......I have one that's almost 3(boy).....he already knows how to manipulate and get his way. We have had to leave the restaurant a few times and on countless ocassions take a walk while the other ate. Mine gets more timeout, than a pop on the ass, but he gets those too and when he does get the 5 finger medication it works well. He's learning, but than again he's not even 3. The past 2 nights he has been remodeling his bedroom......"peeling off the wallpaper, because he doesn't like the animals looking at him when he goes to sleep"(his words).

I got another.....a guy I know had his little 3yr old clean the mud off his brand new truck w/ a "ball pin hammer"!!!

IMO you got to be tough on them and sometimes they need a pop on the kaboose, but they also need to know you love 'em or that pop on the kaboose aint gonna work. :thumbsup:

Exactly.

"Be nice to your children but let 'em know when they mess up."
"Rule the dinner table (or their lives for that matter) with a kind heart and an iron fist."

And for the love of god..........





take your children out to dinner every now and then. ;)





p.s...........whysyrdddy....that wall paper story is funny as hell :rofl: :rofl: ;) aren't kids the best thing that life ever gave you

Whenever we had a problem about to start a riot in the back, I would run the cabin pressure altitude to the upper limit. Before you know it, most folks are taking a nap. Works great with drunks and it's legal!!!! (trade secret)

originalsin - 10/10/2005 8:41 PM

p.s...........whysyrdddy....that wall paper story is funny as hell :rofl: :rofl: ;) aren't kids the best thing that life ever gave you

:thumbsup:

whsyrdddy - 10/10/2005 9:31 PM originalsin - 10/10/2005 8:41 PM p.s...........whysyrdddy....that wall paper story is funny as hell :rofl: :rofl: ;) aren't kids the best thing that life ever gave you :thumbsup:

I got a kick out of that too, because my 2 yr old started taking down his wall paper too because he said he was trying to help Nemo find his Daddy.

Just1more - 10/11/2005 10:22 AM



whsyrdddy - 10/10/2005 9:31 PM originalsin - 10/10/2005 8:41 PM p.s...........whysyrdddy....that wall paper story is funny as hell :rofl: :rofl: ;) aren't kids the best thing that life ever gave you :thumbsup:

I got a kick out of that too, because my 2 yr old started taking down his wall paper too because he said he was trying to help Nemo find his Daddy.

Right now mine is more into emptying things......dumps out cereal boxes, bags of chips, the toy bin, the change bowl, basically anything he can get his hands on. As you can imagine from chest level down our house is empty except for the furniture. He also likes to take all of the cushions off of the couches and gets mad if you don't let him. Saw me doing it while looking for the remote one day.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Oh, MAN - twentynine! THANKS!!! I needed that! I just LOVE the way some of you guys are SO good at recanting your stories. I think that's why I enjoy this forum so.

And Tireless ~ GREAT JOB!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I, too, can recall MANY times when I calmed my own boys down by standing with them pressed to my chest and swaying back and forth humming "Jesus Loves Me". Believe me when I say that it was for BOTH of us~ :o :grin:

As for the rest of you - YES - we understand (up to a point) that sh*t happens and then we just need to "rant". So give us all a break, will ya? ;) Don't take this thread so personally. However, I will say this - I'm NOT one to take things sitting down (so to speak) so if the situation arrises and I see a need for intervention, you can rest assured that I WILL be the one to take things under my command, but I will do so in a loving and diplomatic manner. It's never failed me yet. :thumbsup:

I've BEEN there - done that and even baked the cake. ;)

:Q

Kids on aplane are really no problem. They are kids, they do not know any better. Once, flying back from Arizona, there was a screaming kid before we took off, about 10 years old. I politlely got up and told him I would give him $100.00 if he sat still and silent for the flight to Providence. He did not move or make a sound - he got his money and I got my sleep.

originalsin - 10/11/2005 11:47 AM

Just1more - 10/11/2005 10:22 AM



whsyrdddy - 10/10/2005 9:31 PM originalsin - 10/10/2005 8:41 PM p.s...........whysyrdddy....that wall paper story is funny as hell :rofl: :rofl: ;) aren't kids the best thing that life ever gave you :thumbsup:

I got a kick out of that too, because my 2 yr old started taking down his wall paper too because he said he was trying to help Nemo find his Daddy.

Right now mine is more into emptying things......dumps out cereal boxes, bags of chips, the toy bin, the change bowl, basically anything he can get his hands on. As you can imagine from chest level down our house is empty except for the furniture. He also likes to take all of the cushions off of the couches and gets mad if you don't let him. Saw me doing it while looking for the remote one day.

mine dumps things too.....just to dump, not play

he must have read this thread, because 30 min. ago I walked into the den and he has the seat cushion off the couch

of course this exposes everything he's been eating on the couch or burying in the couch....looks like a concession stand

I'll tell you one thing he loves and that's the boat......somedays he'll ask to go and I'll tell him we can't.......cries something awful. I think he's gonna have a harder time than me when we put it up for the winter.

Flew home from Chicago today and I could hear a kid screaming in the back of the plane......all I could do is sit there with a smile on my face thinking about this thread....and the poor bastards twitching in the tail section. :grin:

[QUOTE]originalsin - 10/11/2005 11:47 AM

Right now mine is more into emptying things......QUOTE]



Wait until they get older...they will still want to empty something.....it that case it will be your wallet. :rofl:

I fly pretty regularly for work and fly in and out of Orlando about 80% of the time (a little closer to home than Tampa). Mickey's playland probably has more children flying in and out than any other airport in the world. I have a 2 year old daughter and realize that there are times that you can do everything within your power and the child isn't going to always cooperate. If the parent is doing their best to try and calm their children or is apologetic when the child is unruly, I can understand their situation. If they let the child run wild through the plane, that's a different story. But, at the end of the day, what can you really do. I get a lot of the free upgrades to the front of the plane and I suggest that if you can't deal with children, then pay for first class. A lot of times, I'd rather deal with the children than some of the other a-holes that fly and think that the world owes them something because they are some big shot business person. Life's too short to get all stressed out about kids. I've got more important things to stess about.

My wife just boarded a plane for Kentucky with my two kids. She brought snacks, books and toys, she's by herself. I hope noone gives her sh!t or a dirty look or calls her an IDIOT!!!!! :trout:

WEAKFISH - 10/11/2005 8:40 PM

My wife just boarded a plane for Kentucky with my two kids. She brought snacks, books and toys, she's by herself. I hope noone gives her sh!t or a dirty look or calls her an IDIOT!!!!! :trout:

They won't ~ and if you're lucky either Tireless or RI Builder will be on the plane and will save the day!
:grin: ;)

:Q

Tireless - 10/11/2005 7:48 PM

[QUOTE]originalsin - 10/11/2005 11:47 AM

Right now mine is more into emptying things......QUOTE]



Wait until they get older...they will still want to empty something.....it that case it will be your wallet. :rofl:

Unfortunately his mother, my kind and loving ;) pregnant wife, is already giving him a first class education on the subject of spending money on worthless sh!t. At least the stuff that I blow money on is important. Like rods and reels, hooks/wire/swivels, skirts(the fishing kind ;) ), castnets, etc. :grin:

originalsin - 10/12/2005 9:17 AM

Tireless - 10/11/2005 7:48 PM

[QUOTE]originalsin - 10/11/2005 11:47 AM

Right now mine is more into emptying things......QUOTE]



Wait until they get older...they will still want to empty something.....it that case it will be your wallet. :rofl:

Unfortunately his mother, my kind and loving ;) pregnant wife, is already giving him a first class education on the subject of spending money on worthless sh!t. At least the stuff that I blow money on is important. Like rods and reels, hooks/wire/swivels, skirts(the fishing kind ;) ), castnets, etc. :grin:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

WEAKFISH - 10/11/2005 9:40 PM My wife just boarded a plane for Kentucky with my two kids. She brought snacks, books and toys, she's by herself. I hope noone gives her sh!t or a dirty look or calls her an IDIOT!!!!! :trout:

I do not see why that should happen, I believe the original post, and most that followed, were refering to totally out of control children, and thier irresponible parents who did not care enough to do anything about it.

I do not think your wife would allow your children to kick the seat in front of them for three hours straight, Would she? I do not think your wife would allow your children to kick seventy five people in the head during a tantrum, Would she?

This is the sort of behavior that is being refered to here. I think we all understand that kids will be kids, and I myself actually find it funny when a child wails inspite of the best efforts of the parents, I think we have all experienced that as a parent, at least once. The objections I have, and obviously others do also is the total abandonment of any responsibility to control one's children. Just let them run amuck and do whatever they please. That is what the folks here are objecting to, and I think that is a reasonable objection.

Well...I'll tell ya, my little guy has kicked the chair in front of him a few times. I grab his leg and try to get him to stop. He will cry sometimes due to the pressure on his ears from the plane climbing and descending. The time he kicked the chair in front of him and I tried to stop him I got a dirty look from the guy in the chair. My chair has been kicked for hours and I have NO problem with it. Never did..even before I had kids. My kids don't run wild on a plane and in fact yesterday was totally uneventful, but my kids are getting past that age. However I have tolerance and symapthy for a "dummy" mother or "idiot" mother (as some have said here) who brings things on the plane to entertain her kids.

WEAKFISH - 10/12/2005 2:28 PM

My chair has been kicked for hours and I have NO problem with it. Never did..even before I had kids.



You are entirely too tolerent, at least way more tolerant than I am. I understand the ocational bump on the back of my seat, but constant kicking, that's like having someone jog up and down my back.....completely unexceptable in my book. No, I am not going to resort to violence, but comeon, that's a little much for you to expect any normal person to put up with. If you can handle it, more power to you, just dont expect all travelers to be as understanding.

Clarification....when I said hours...I didn't mean constant. I meant a several bumps over several hours.....I'm not Superman :grin: :grin: :thumbsup:

oh, I'm with you there, the little girl that I was talking about from last week was doing the whole joging thing, that's what pissed me off more than the noise, then her dad wouldn't even make a serious attempt to stop it, that really pissed me off. I've had plenty of adult, frequent travelers give me the bumps, I don't see a problem there, that's part of being on a plane.

Hey Auto ~ would you have let that blind date jog up and down your back for hours....?? :o :grin:

:Q

farmerjane - 10/12/2005 4:48 PM

Hey Auto ~ would you have let that blind date jog up and down your back for hours....?? :o :grin:

:Q

no, but she gave a great...............























































backrub.

:o

:grin:

Whew~! I'm glad you clarrified that one! HA!!!! My mind was thinkin' all KINDS of things until I got to the bottom of your post! :o :o

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:Q

After reading tireless's, self praise fantasy I can't help but be reminded of those fantasy letters printed in the penthouse forum... all bull. Is there no bounds to your BS?

Baitboy - 10/17/2005 12:01 PM

After reading tireless's, self praise fantasy I can't help but be reminded of those fantasy letters printed in the penthouse forum... all bull. Is there no bounds to your BS?

I didn't know you were going to be this bitter when I refused to PM you the links to the male thong web site I pulled the manwick shot from. :rofl:

But to answer your question.......there are no bounds to my BS. However, in this case the story was true.....sorry to disappoint you.

Let me see if I get this..... male thong..... oh I get it, you're calling me gay? wow there's wit. Maybe when I was 10 that was funny.... but not now, just shows us your frat boy, sophmoric attempt at dry humor. impressive

I thought tireless handled that shot across the bow pretty well :thumbsup:

Baitboy - 10/17/2005 3:40 PM

Let me see if I get this..... male thong..... oh I get it, you're calling me gay? wow there's wit. Maybe when I was 10 that was funny.... but not now, just shows us your frat boy, sophmoric attempt at dry humor. impressive

I don't know what is up your arse today (no gay reference intended) but you resurrect a thread to call me a liar and a frat boy.....I am offended by the frat boy comment for sure. You certainly don't know me so what is it that has you so desirous of my attention (again, no homo joke is implied)?

Guess what....my three year old slept the whole way home on the plane. :grin: :grin: :thumbsup:

Tireless - 10/17/2005 4:23 PM

Baitboy - 10/17/2005 3:40 PM

Let me see if I get this..... male thong..... oh I get it, you're calling me gay? wow there's wit. Maybe when I was 10 that was funny.... but not now, just shows us your frat boy, sophmoric attempt at dry humor. impressive

I don't know what is up your arse today (no gay reference intended) but you resurrect a thread to call me a liar and a frat boy.....I am offended by the frat boy comment for sure. You certainly don't know me so what is it that has you so desirous of my attention (again, no homo joke is implied)?



You got the name of Baitboy and your not gay?

autobaun70 - 10/12/2005 3:30 PM

WEAKFISH - 10/12/2005 2:28 PM

My chair has been kicked for hours and I have NO problem with it. Never did..even before I had kids.



You are entirely too tolerent, at least way more tolerant than I am. I understand the ocational bump on the back of my seat, but constant kicking, that's like having someone jog up and down my back.....completely unexceptable in my book. No, I am not going to resort to violence, but comeon, that's a little much for you to expect any normal person to put up with. If you can handle it, more power to you, just dont expect all travelers to be as understanding.

that's a scene from "Kindergarten cop" an...Ahnold movie....kid was kicking back of seat and he turned and looked kid in the eye and crushed a pencil in his fingers...........great.......had the need to do that one time on a plane...didn't have a pencil :(

NormandyBeach - 10/17/2005 3:45 PM I thought tireless handled that shot across the bow pretty well :thumbsup:

I don't believe I would have used the expression "shot across the Bow"

Particularly when there are sophmoric frat boys around who have the thong site bookmarked.

. But that is just me, you guys go ahead if you want to.

Now I empathize with my 12yr old son when he says, "Whatever."

Hey WEAKFISH~ :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :grin:

WHEW~!!! Don't you know that was a relief to your wife (and everyone else on the plane)? HA!! :rofl:

See - kids CAN behave ~

:Q

Tireless - 10/17/2005 1:44 PM

Baitboy - 10/17/2005 12:01 PM

After reading tireless's, self praise fantasy I can't help but be reminded of those fantasy letters printed in the penthouse forum... all bull. Is there no bounds to your BS?

I didn't know you were going to be this bitter when I refused to PM you the links to the male thong web site I pulled the manwick shot from. :rofl:

But to answer your question.......there are no bounds to my BS. However, in this case the story was true.....sorry to disappoint you.


leave Bullshipper out of this

Parents are largely oblivious to the crap their kids to. If they know and ignore it, it tells you alot about how they raise their kids-poorly. My kids have been travelling since they were infants and as soon as they were old enough, it was made clear to them that other people were on the same plane/in the same restaurant and bad behavior had consequences. People who's kids run amock and cause others' discomfort shoudl leave the little sh!ts at home...

CMP

Kids should only fly on Southwest, Jetblue, Song or Ted. I have two kids and will fly on these carriers only. I fly everyweek and I am amazed at the stupidity of the the human race. I blame the kids parents not the kids. We're all doomed.