The Boating Forum - Am I missing something?

Yesterday on the way back across the bay we were running in the channel, several feet deep and part of the ICW, heading towards Brooks Bridge. The channel is 100-200 yards wide and we were well to the right. A 70' motor yacht was coming the other way but hugging the same side, his left. I moved as far to the right as I could and he altered course so we passed port to port, both of us at high idle ~7 knots. The captain of the motor yacht was visibly Very upset with me and kept waving a VHF. We were talking on Ch 72 to some of my fishing buddies so I don't know if he was trying to hail me on 16 or not. I called him on 16 after we passed, but didn't get a reply.
I don't know of anything I did wrong, is there some obscure Rule of the Road I missed?

You didn't miss anything. Captains in 70 foot boats tend to do what they damn well please as most other boaters will get out of their way. He was pissed because you had the audacity to challenge his right to go anywhere.

That's what I thought, but figured I'd ask here too.

Thanks.

Nope......you didn't miss anything. The 70ft Capt is a jerk and he showed you his colors. He was probably mad that you:

i) made him turn off his auto pilot,

ii) didn't stop and run some shore errands for him to save him docking fees,

iii) didn't call back and give him your email address so he could send you gay porn links.

It's too bad you couldn't get a trolling spread out in a hurry and start zig zagging across the channel. 9381

Tireless - 6/27/2005 9:05 AM



Nope......you didn't miss anything. The 70ft Capt is a jerk and he showed you his colors. He was probably mad that you:

i) made him turn off his auto pilot,

ii) didn't stop and run some shore errands for him to save him docking fees,

iii) didn't call back and give him your email address so he could send you gay porn links.

It's too bad you couldn't get a trolling spread out in a hurry and start zig zagging across the channel. 9381



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl:

Now THAT'S funny. Just the laugh I needed today.

:thumbsup:

Unfortunately no matter how nice or big a boat is ,you have to assume the person piloting it knows nothing about what he is doing. 70 feet or 15 feet. I dont care if your trolling or full out. There are too many people who dont even know right of way rules ???? See it all too often.


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You made me laugh out loud. :)

Unfortunately, no amount of money will fix stupid.

I think most of the "wise guy" answers came from "boaters" who know shatt about maneuvering a larger type vessel in restricted waters. This so called "jerk" was piloting a 70' vessel with a minimum draft of about 6-7 fleet in the ICW, which, in the best of times, is known for shoaling. He knew HIS water was to the left of the center of the channel and stuck to it as long as he could. The only thing he didn't do, which he should have, is exchanged whistle signals with LI! The reason he was waving his VHF is that he was "shouting" on channel #10, the "manuvering channel". I would also hazard a guess that, a vessel of that size, was being piloted by a licensed captain with more than a "six pak" license! Been there , done that!

That is why the Nav Rules state that "larger" vessels should be given the right of way, particularly in restricted water like the ICW!

Eat some stupid, stupids!

As stated earlier:

Tireless - 6/27/2005 9:05 AM



Nope......you didn't miss anything. The 70ft Capt is a jerk and he showed you his colors. He was probably mad that you:

i) made him turn off his auto pilot,

ii) didn't stop and run some shore errands for him to save him docking fees,

iii) didn't call back and give him your email address so he could send you gay porn links.

It's too bad you couldn't get a trolling spread out in a hurry and start zig zagging across the channel. 9381

autobaun70 - 6/27/2005 2:20 PM

Unfortunately, no amount of money will fix stupid.

Well I think I could improve my IQ for about $20,000,000!!!! :grin:

Edward Teach - 6/27/2005 2:33 PM I think most of the "wise guy" answers came from "boaters" who know shatt about maneuvering a larger type vessel in restricted waters. This so called "jerk" was piloting a 70' vessel with a minimum draft of about 6-7 fleet in the ICW, which, in the best of times, is known for shoaling. He knew HIS water was to the left of the center of the channel and stuck to it as long as he could. The only thing he didn't do, which he should have, is exchanged whistle signals with LI! The reason he was waving his VHF is that he was "shouting" on channel #10, the "manuvering channel". I would also hazard a guess that, a vessel of that size, was being piloted by a licensed captain with more than a "six pak" license! Been there , done that! That is why the Nav Rules state that "larger" vessels should be given the right of way, particularly in restricted water like the ICW! Eat some stupid, stupids!

I don't think LI would have posted this thread here and I wouldn't have made any jokes if we had known you were driving the other boat........I am assuming you were on the other boat given the amounts of "facts" you possess that clearly were not in LI's post.*

Oh yeah, that little whistle/horn thingy would have helped if the situation was really serious......like in the situation were turning the wheel could cause the boat to list slightly and the captain's coke mirror would slide off the helm.*

Tireless - 6/27/2005 3:32 PM

......like in the situation were turning the wheel could cause the boat to list slightly and the captain's coke mirror would slide off the helm.

Just how much list is required to cause a coke mirror to slide, and in which direction?* You have a fountain, so I know you are qualified to answer that.

I understand what you're saying about being constrained by draft, but there was plenty of room for us to pass by each other, in fact, he was pretty much in the center of the channel and I was far over to the right. It's the ICW and much bigger craft go past each other quite easily so I'm sticking with either the gay porn or coke mirror theory.

Dont mess with the captains coke mirror, that is a sure way to get scolded.

autobaun70 - 6/27/2005 3:39 PM Tireless - 6/27/2005 3:32 PM

......like in the situation were turning the wheel could cause the boat to list slightly and the captain's coke mirror would slide off the helm.



Just how much list is required to cause a coke mirror to slide, and in which direction?* You have a fountain, so I know you are qualified to answer that.


Given the fact I have a go-fast we can not use mirrors.....we use a pre-packed thimble and a*modified diving regulator that fits*most noses.*

Tireless - 6/27/2005 2:32 PM



Oh yeah, that little whistle/horn thingy would have helped if the situation was really serious......like in the situation were turning the wheel could cause the boat to list slightly and the captain's coke mirror would slide off the helm.

Oh man!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

there may very well have been a non-coke mirror-related explanation for his wanting to stay left of center, which you may even have concurred with, had yall been able to talk...but alas, it appears a failure to communicate has many jumping to conclusions, secure in the knowledge that the truth is long past recovery

at a minimum you should have tabled the fishing banter and stayed on 16 while manuevering thru traffic

...how was that, tireless? :grin:

cgrand - 6/27/2005 4:48 PM there may very well have been a non-coke mirror-related explanation for his wanting to stay left of center, which you may even have concurred with, had yall been able to talk...but alas, it appears a failure to communicate has many jumping to conclusions, secure in the knowledge that the truth is long past recovery at a minimum you should have tabled the fishing banter and stayed on 16 while manuevering thru traffic ...how was that, tireless? :grin:

All I can say at this point is ....... 93819381938193819381

Edward Teach - 6/27/2005 1:33 PM
That is why the Nav Rules state that "larger" vessels should be given the right of way, particularly in restricted water like the ICW!
Eat some stupid, stupids!

Could you provide a reference to the "larger" vessel rule you quote, can't seem to find it anywhere in my rule book. I do know about:

"Vessels restricted in their ability to manuever" but that rule requires the vessel to either put up day shapes or show the proper lights at night. Just can't find the reference to "larger". :grin:

Then there is that little Rule 9(b) which states: A vessel of less than 20 meters in length or a sailing vessel shall not impede the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway.

Then there is that little Rule 9(c) which states: On a craft that is larger than 20 meters and a captain is getting a hand job from his mate, Phil, all vessels not measured by the metric system must give right of way to said vessel.

Metric units are just a pain in the ass, so is having to have 2 sets of tools to work on everything.

Sleeper - 6/27/2005 8:11 PM

[QUOTE]...... :grin:

Then there is that little Rule 9(b) which states: A vessel of less than 20 meters in length or a sailing vessel shall not impede the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway.




"that little rule". says it!

Time to wake up sleeper!
:sleeping:

Edward Teach - 6/27/2005 1:33 PM

Eat some stupid, stupids!

;?

TexasWhaler - 6/28/2005 3:46 PM Edward Teach - 6/27/2005 1:33 PM Eat some stupid, stupids! ;?

Don't mind ET - he*normally has good stuff to add to a conversation but he is about as blunt as an anvil.....unfortunately,*in this instance maybe as dense as well.

Eddy,
People who are stupid have a hard time coping in life and universally react to simple questions with offensive answers. to cover their own insecurities.
So I would keep thy comments to yourself if you don't know how to behave in public.

This is gettin good...

I am not nearly qualified enough to weigh in on this, but there is one thing I've noticed... Does EdwardTeach EVER say anything positive or in a non-condescending way? Man...
(Note- I posted this w/o reading page 2 of the thread. I guess I AM one of the stupids he mentioned...)

The key to interpreting rule 9 is "impede the passage" This is not giving unrestricted ROW to anything
over 60ft anywhere in the ICW... You should have communicated either on the man channel or by horn or whistle when intentions were not known....

Bullshipper - 6/28/2005 3:32 PM


People who are stupid have a hard time coping in life and universally react to simple questions with offensive answers to cover their own insecurities.

Wow, I like that one Bullshipper. I'm going to have to steal that one. :thumbsup: