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Jaredbolen
08-16-2012, 08:26 AM
Can I get away with using a tld30 2 speed for wire line? Anyone foresee any issues?


Danny33486
08-16-2012, 08:46 AM
senator

AquaWhaler
08-16-2012, 08:47 AM
Can I get away with using a tld30 2 speed for wire line? Anyone foresee any issues?

Eventually the electrolysis between the monel and the aluminum spool of the TLD will badly corrode the spool wherever they touch.

I believe the ONLY reels still made for wire line are the Penn 113 and 114 HSP's which have chrome over bronze spools.


JAGSARE1
08-16-2012, 06:14 PM
Eventually the electrolysis between the monel and the aluminum spool of the TLD will badly corrode the spool wherever they touch.

I believe the ONLY reels still made for wire line are the Penn 113 and 114 HSP's which have chrome over bronze spools.

Why in the world would you want chrome over bronze for a wire line reel? I use a Penn 115 and it has a plastic(?), non-metal spool.

capt.holiday
08-16-2012, 09:21 PM
What will you be pulling wire for? A wireline rig for stripers/blue is vastly different than a wireline set up for planer used for tuna/wahoo.

My first thought is that a TLD 30 is the wrong reel reguardless. Strictly from the aspect of the composite frame. Around 19-20 pounds of drag and there is a somewhat high potential of the frame breaking. A full metal frame reel is what you want. I suggest either a Penn Senator or a Shimano Triton.

And secondly, braid has replaced wire in almost very application. Its easier on the hands, the gear, about the only down side is its not as abrasion resistant as wire.

2 speed gearing is nice, but not a absolutle necessity. I dont think Ive ever used it on cranking in a fish on my wireline rigs.

ol guide
08-17-2012, 02:07 AM
nothing wrong with a 309M for a cheap wire line set up for stripers

AquaWhaler
08-17-2012, 04:04 AM
Why in the world would you want chrome over bronze for a wire line reel? I use a Penn 115 and it has a plastic(?), non-metal spool.

For the same reason that underwater thru hulls are made of COB - strength and corrosion resistance.

fishie1
08-17-2012, 07:39 AM
I use Penn 113HSP for umbrellas and Shimano Tekota 800s for bunker spoons - all have monel, not stainless. I have lead core line on TLD 15s for tubes. All work very well under these conditions.

Tunanorth
08-17-2012, 12:44 PM
[quote=JAGSARE1;4854847 I use a Penn 115 and it has a plastic(?), non-metal spool.[/quote]




Non-metal spools were never made for the 115 [9/0 Senator], either by Penn, or to my knowledge by any aftermarket company either.
Most likely you have a Penn 115L [black anodized aluminum spool].
Although aluminum is usable with wire, the chrome plated brass spool as included in the "SP" series Senators is much better for wire line, because of the electrolysis issue as mentioned.

JAGSARE1
08-17-2012, 02:39 PM
Non-metal spools were never made for the 115 [9/0 Senator], either by Penn, or to my knowledge by any aftermarket company either.
Most likely you have a Penn 115L [black anodized aluminum spool].
Although aluminum is usable with wire, the chrome plated brass spool as included in the "SP" series Senators is much better for wire line, because of the electrolysis issue as mentioned.

I do clean mine every single trip but if it is aluminum, there isn't a spec of corrosion on it.

grgrmouse
08-17-2012, 06:43 PM
Any narrow reel w metal (pref steel arbor spool) will work. We use old #49 and 500 Penn jigmasters for years. Fishing to 400 feet in lake Tahoe for Macinaw

billfish33
08-17-2012, 08:22 PM
I use the older 113 special senators for my spoon setups,and daiwa 400 reels for the umbrellas and parachutes.

airedog
08-17-2012, 08:44 PM
Senators are good, but check out a "49" series reel by Penn. They are made for wire. I have one if you are interested. PM me

rogerstg
08-18-2012, 07:31 AM
Senators are good, but check out a "49" series reel by Penn. They are made for wire.

Not anymore. They've been out of production for years. :)

Jaredbolen
08-18-2012, 07:56 PM
Thanks guys. Decided to go with a tyrnos 50 loaded with 100 braid. We will give that a shot on the hoos

whitewater25
08-19-2012, 09:07 AM
You may hate that fast gear ratio on the tyrnos if you have to check/change lures while maintaining trolling speed.9/0 or 10/0 metal spool senator with a motor on it.why crank if you dont have to.you already took the sport out of it by using the wire.its not lazy,just efficient,especially when there is a lot of weed around.

Jaredbolen
08-19-2012, 04:09 PM
You may hate that fast gear ratio on the tyrnos if you have to check/change lures while maintaining trolling speed.9/0 or 10/0 metal spool senator with a motor on it.why crank if you dont have to.you already took the sport out of it by using the wire.its not lazy,just efficient,especially when there is a lot of weed around.

I'm just curious as to the"take the sport out of it comment". Do you really feel fishing is a sport? I always thought of it as a hobby that absolutely love. When we play most sports, both sides usually know they're playing. Just my 2 cents

capt.holiday
08-20-2012, 10:03 AM
I'm with Jared, I enjoy it, but it's not a sport to me.

Then again, I do plan on trining this weekend.... Training my bait to swim!!



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