Dockside Chat - Poor upbringing or just FL Rednecks?

The following has happened twice in the past few weeks; Recently brought a neighbor on the boat who asked if a friend of his (whom I did not know) could come along. I said sure.

In both instances, the friend of my neighbor simply lit up and started smoking. Yes, I know this is my boat and if I don't like it, I should say something. Not my point.

My point is simply, would you ever get on someones boat, as a guest, whom you don't know and simply light up without so much as asking? I don't smoke cigarettes but I would never make such an assumption.

Simply poor upbringing, in my opinion. Lack of common sense and common courtesy.

Tipsy

I do not smoke but those that I know that do always ask first. Some folks just don't have any manners. Being the guest of a guest he should have been on his best behavior.

There are still many that will assume smoking in an outdoor environment is always permitted. But habits are changing.

I never smoked myself. Thirty years ago this would be no big deal. Just watch some old movies, how people blew smoke in each others face. If you watch the movie Midway, there is a scene where all these admirals are around a great map, and this "sailor" is blowing smoke in Admiral Nimitz (Henry Fonda's) face, and the Fonda doesn't even seem aware of it.

For a redneck to be out fishing on a boat, I'm sure he just didn't think about it, and there lies your point.

To me, absolutely inconsequencial, but I am no doubt less sensitive about these things than most of the THT'ers

Yes he should have asked since it is your boat....although it still is legal to smoke outdoors, for now.

May sound a bit harsh but why didn't you just point it out to the fella that he should have some manners and ASK first? He'll never learn manners without someone teaching him, regardless if he's your friends friend. You are the adult. A little raw truth from a stranger can go a long way.

Are we too PC to actually teach kiddos something in today's world? I can definitely say I'm not. :thumbsup:

Tipsy,It's upbringing...I have met rude,bad mannered, uncourteous

people from all walks of life,from dirt poor to wealthy in all parts of

The United States of America.

rowbear

I tell people who light up "no smoking on the boat", even if they don't ask. I've never smoked before, and I don't want to "second hand" smoke now. My boat, my rule.
I hate the smell of it.

"Thad'd better be reefer or you are putting it out."

He get's the message and you "keep it real" with the homies.

Yes he should have asked since it is your boat....although it still is legal to smoke outdoors, for now.

May sound a bit harsh but why didn't you just point it out to the fella that he should have some manners and ASK first? He'll never learn manners without someone teaching him, regardless if he's your friends friend. You are the adult. A little raw truth from a stranger can go a long way.

Are we too PC to actually teach kiddos something in today's world? I can definitely say I'm not. :thumbsup:

You either have class or you don't have class. You can't teach class

So after the guy had his smoke, what did he do with his butt, put it in his pocket or litter? If he flicked the butt in the water that's when I would have said something, on both accounts....but I would have allowed him to continue to smoke.

If he was actually a "FL Redneck" he'd have gotten Skoal all over your boat. The only people I know that smoke are from up north.

I think it was rude of him to ask if the friend could come in the first place......unless she was hot.

You either have class or you don't have class. You can't teach class

Wrong. We can save it for another thread about today's youth and how some need that extra push to realize who they can be. :thumbsup:

There are still many that will assume smoking in an outdoor environment is always permitted. But habits are changing.



Yep, they just don't know any better. Probably not trying to be rude. I bet if the same person was a guest inside your house they would ask. My vote, poor upbringing.

I wouldn't care one bit if someone smokes on the open deck of my boat. Catching a whiff won't hurt you. If he was standing in a location that due to the wind, all of his smoke was blowing back on me i'd ask him to move.

What pisses me off a lot is when people throw their butts into the water or just flick em on the ground.

If he lit up right next to you and it was blowing all in your face - that's rude. If he stepped to the back of the boat and smoked there, I would not consider that to be rude.

Simple solution tell the guest he is the guest no others are invited if he don't like he can pass on the trip.

My fishing buddy smokes and I don't yet every time were out on my boat he'll ask f it's OK that he lights up. I'm always accomidating but I make sure I move to a spot where he'll be down wind of me so I don't have to get smoke in my face. I tease the crap out of him saying things like if he dies I get to keep his catch etc... Point is were friends and he still asks, for someone to not ask is just uneducated.

It's bad manners and bad manners aren't limited to a state (FL) or your perception of low class (redneck) or to upbringing.

Three people fell short of proper etiquette.
(1) The smoker should ask first and certainly most parts of the country have this etiquette. This isn't new if you grew up in the NE. Thirty years ago people asked first (my answer was no).
(2) You didn't set the rules before you left the dock.
(3) Your friend is also guilty, assuming he knows you. Your friend knows you don't smoke, knows you don't allow smoking on your boat, knows his friend does smoke, knows that smoking on a boat is typically OK in that part of the country, he should have warned his friend first.

So, you come here bitching about upbringing and rednecks, yet your parents didn't teach you to speak up or shut up.

BTW, my mother was a sweet little lady, so I guess this answer comes from my father's side, he was a pain in the ass that told it as he saw it.

Or, you could put up one of those "Thank You for Not Smoking" signs.

Asking or not asking doesn't necessarily have to do with being a redneck, inconsiderate or rude; it could have everything to do with confidence in one's self.

That or the guy is a member here on this site and knows it's better to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission. :rofl:

It's bad manners and bad manners aren't limited to a state (FL) or your perception of low class (redneck) or to upbringing.

Three people fell short of proper etiquette.
(1) The smoker should ask first and certainly most parts of the country have this etiquette. This isn't new if you grew up in the NE. Thirty years ago people asked first (my answer was no).
(2) You didn't set the rules before you left the dock.
(3) Your friend is also guilty, assuming he knows you. Your friend knows you don't smoke, knows you don't allow smoking on your boat, knows his friend does smoke, knows that smoking on a boat is typically OK in that part of the country, he should have warned his friend first.

So, you come here bitching about upbringing and rednecks, yet your parents didn't teach you to speak up or shut up.

BTW, my mother was a sweet little lady, so I guess this answer comes from my father's side, he was a pain in the ass that told it as he saw it.

Or, you could put up one of those "Thank You for Not Smoking" signs.

This.:thumbsup:

My fishing buddy smokes and I don't yet every time were out on my boat he'll ask f it's OK that he lights up. I'm always accomidating but I make sure I move to a spot where he'll be down wind of me so I don't have to get smoke in my face. I tease the crap out of him saying things like if he dies I get to keep his catch etc... Point is were friends and he still asks, for someone to not ask is just uneducated.

^^^^same here^^^^

My fish buddy brings a plastic jar half full of sand for his butts,

Always ask if he can light up and always goes down wind of me.

Cigs are hard to quit,most that have smoked Know this.

He is always welcome on my boat, he will quite when he is READY

until then,I'll put up with it. Quality courteous people are hard to find.

There are still many that will assume smoking in an outdoor environment is always permitted. But habits are changing.

Yep, they just don't know any better. Probably not trying to be rude. I bet if the same person was a guest inside your house they would ask. My vote, poor upbringing.

This is the culprit. Smoking indoors or in someone's house has certainly become taboo in recent decades. Smoking in open air or outdoors is changing but still no where near the level of awareness as indoor smoking.

Most smokers didn't pick up or learn the habit in a vacuum. They learned it from someone else. They hang out with, scoialize, and smoke with others at work, on breaks, at bar's, etc. Its hard for many smokers to fathom that others not only don't enjoy the sight, smell, trash, fire hazard, etc. that comes from smoking, but that they can't stand it either.

In your case, he probably though it was open air, he'd light up downwind from everyone, mind his ash, and dispose of his butt. Little do they know that for many people that is not an acceptable alternative.

Steve Martin:

Mind if I smoke?


no, do you mind if I fart?

Your boat, your rules. You should mention your no smoking policy before you leave the dock. Some people are addicted enough that not smoking for 8 to 10 hours is a problem for them. Especially if they have a few beers. I'm not saying he shouldn't have asked though. I think most people allow others to smoke on the deck and downwind so long as they are mindful of ashes and butts.

To pose a compairable question, if you had a party at your house would you allow somebody to smoke on your noncovered back deck or patio? Assuming they weren't ashing on it or throwing their butts in the yard.

I think it was rude of him to ask if the friend could come in the first place......unless she was hot.



Was she one of these people? ;?

http://www.nakedgirlssmoking.com/

how would you feel about someone using an electronic cigarette on your boat?

People should ask. I have 1 friend that smokes he will smoke when underway downwind and put is butts in a bottle.... He is respectful of others property and careful so I let him....most others I would not.

My boat, my rule.Yes, my boat, my rule. But the point of the post wasn't "do you allow guests to smoke on your boat?"

The point was, if you were a guest on someone else's boat...particularly someone whom you didn't know, would you simply assume it's okay to light-up?


It's bad manners and bad manners aren't limited to a state (FL) or your perception of low class (redneck) or to upbringing.Redneck was written in jest. Around here, it's really more of a white trash issue ;)

Three people fell short of proper etiquette.

(2) You didn't set the rules before you left the dock. I also didn't mention that I'd prefer my guests don't change the radio station or take a crap on the deck. Are these rules you mention before leaving the dock? If I were on someone else's boat, in someone else's backyard or in someone else's living room, I wouldn't simply assume it's okay to smoke without asking. Or crap on the floor...or change the radio station...even if my host didn't brief me of his rules beforehand. But that's probably because I exercise common sense and common courtesy. ;?

Tipsy

Asking or not asking doesn't necessarily have to do with being a redneck, inconsiderate or rude; it could have everything to do with confidence in one's self.

I think it does because it's a cultural thing. This guy might be a polite and good guy, but just doesn't think about his smoke outdoors, when fishing. Maybe he's done this for 30 years and nobody ever said anything.

Like many have said, it it's that big a deal, let everybody know at the dock about the policy; explaining that it's there for a variety of reasons, including safety.

You could bring it up while you pointing out the other safety rules/procedures before you leave the dock.

If he was actually a "FL Redneck" he'd have gotten Skoal all over your boat. The only people I know that smoke are from up north.

Ya stole my reply! Bad manners, if he spit on the floor of your boat.........

It also depends on what your guest was smoking..he didn't offer you a hit?

I also didn't mention that I'd prefer my guests don't change the radio station or take a crap on the deck. Are these rules you mention before leaving the dock? If I were on someone else's boat, in someone else's backyard or in someone else's living room, I wouldn't simply assume it's okay to smoke without asking. Or crap on the floor...or change the radio station...even if my host didn't brief me of his rules beforehand. But that's probably because I exercise common sense and common courtesy. ;?

Tipsy

You must have a real fancy living room where you don't let folks crap on the floor... :trout:

The following has happened twice in the past few weeks; Recently brought a neighbor on the boat who asked if a friend of his (whom I did not know) could come along. I said sure.

In both instances, the friend of my neighbor simply lit up and started smoking. Yes, I know this is my boat and if I don't like it, I should say something. Not my point.

My point is simply, would you ever get on someones boat, as a guest, whom you don't know and simply light up without so much as asking? I don't smoke cigarettes but I would never make such an assumption.

Simply poor upbringing, in my opinion. Lack of common sense and common courtesy.

Tipsy

First you must retract your Florida upbringing statement. Most people in Florida now are not born in Florida they're from other places or their parents moved to Florida and drug along their dog smellin asses. Smoking is a nasty happen there are many that has that habit but don't ever feel like you don't have enough ASS to tell others what happens on YOUR boat. If you don't then you need to tell everyone to go elsewhere.

First you must retract your Florida upbringing statement. I asked if it was an issue of poor upbringing. I didn't write "FL upbringing."

Tipsy

sounds like your typical rude yankee transplant to me. was he wearing jean shorts and a wife beater t-shirt and driving a minivan?

sounds like your typical rude yankee transplant to me. was he wearing jean shorts and a wife beater t-shirt and driving a minivan?LOL...one was a man about thirty. The other, a girl about 20. Both FL natives.

But it's probably got more to do with being a native of Pasco County than a FL native. That's not to say there's not poor upbringing all over the United States, but Pasco seems to have cornered the market.

Tipsy

Tipsy, your title is FLORIDA REDNECK, you should also know that there are no REDNECKS east or South of Pensacola FL. ....Those are YANKEES .

You REALLY piss off us REDNECKS when you group us with useless YANKEES . A REDNECK will help you, your wife, your kids and a REDNECK will say Yes Mam and Yes Sir BUT them damn YANKEES will drive right by ya, NEVER wave and they think we all owe them something.

By the way... I smoke, I wear black soled boots, I cus a lot when there aint no kids or women around and I run a plate Alloy boat and I think obamie is a DICK HEAD.
If you know me, you know that and if you don't like it then stay on the dock.

Why have many of the THT'ers gotten into the "attack" mode lately? Its not unusual for a member to post a question or even a comment and thinking he or she just may get some good feedback, they get attacked? This seems to be the norm now. Its like "lets attack the OP" vs. provide some decent feedback. Why is this? I'm reluctant to post a question or even respond via a post on an existing thread due to some simply trying to turn my comment or question around make me the bad guy. Does anyone else see this?

The OP asked a question. Look back over the responses and see how many responses even dealt with his question. Some were helpful and thought out but others were just plain simple ass attacks pointed towards the OP.

Why have many of the THT'ers gotten into the "attack" mode lately? Its not unusual for a member to post a question or even a comment and thinking he or she just may get some good feedback, they get attacked? This seems to be the norm now. Its like "lets attack the OP" vs. provide some decent feedback. Why is this? I'm reluctant to post a question or even respond via a post on an existing thread due to some simply trying to turn my comment or question around make me the bad guy. Does anyone else see this?

The OP asked a question. Look back over the responses and see how many responses even dealt with his question. Some were helpful and thought out but others were just plain simple ass attacks pointed towards the OP.

eh.... maybe because of the "florida redneck" comment. he says redneck like it's a bad thing.

Yes, my boat, my rule. But the point of the post wasn't "do you allow guests to smoke on your boat?"

The point was, if you were a guest on someone else's boat...particularly someone whom you didn't know, would you simply assume it's okay to light-up?


Redneck was written in jest. Around here, it's really more of a white trash issue ;)

I also didn't mention that I'd prefer my guests don't change the radio station or take a crap on the deck. Are these rules you mention before leaving the dock? If I were on someone else's boat, in someone else's backyard or in someone else's living room, I wouldn't simply assume it's okay to smoke without asking. Or crap on the floor...or change the radio station...even if my host didn't brief me of his rules beforehand. But that's probably because I exercise common sense and common courtesy. ;?

Tipsy

The thing is, you crapped on every "Redneck's" back yard and some part of Florida in particular the way you phrased the question.

Also, you're not making a good analogy unless you believe Rednecks or the people in your part of Florida typically "crap on the floor", when they probably do smoke when they're on the water.

Bad upbringing, not necessarily. Cultural difference, yes.

Bottom line, before during or after, you should of said something.

BTW, "a girl about 20" all bets are off if she was hot! We need pics! :grin:

Why have many of the THT'ers gotten into the "attack" mode lately? Its not unusual for a member to post a question or even a comment and thinking he or she just may get some good feedback, they get attacked? This seems to be the norm now. Its like "lets attack the OP" vs. provide some decent feedback. Why is this? I'm reluctant to post a question or even respond via a post on an existing thread due to some simply trying to turn my comment or question around make me the bad guy. Does anyone else see this?

The OP asked a question. Look back over the responses and see how many responses even dealt with his question. Some were helpful and thought out but others were just plain simple ass attacks pointed towards the OP.

He's from NYC. If he can't take it, nobody can. ;) Plus, question was phrased in a condescending and offensive manner.

BTW, I hate cig smoke. The guys that worked for me had to leave the customers property to smoke and I docked them the time to do. I made sure they knew the rules before signing on.

I'm a native cracker.

Tipsy, the first thing I pictured was white trash with a racing shirt.

Why, cause almost all of my family, born, bred, raised, here in the best State in the USA....are......Florida Rednecks. And they smoke.

GD people, calm down, its better than being a yankee. :grin: (never ever wish that on anyone)

white trash has no class, thus white trash

BUT, and a big BUT, you want us white trash Floridian rednecks as friends.

(Note: I hate NASCAR and do not smoke. Disqualified cracker)

Ask someone if I can smoke in their backyard....yeah right, as if that would ever happen!....but I would ask them where I could put my butt when I'm done. I wouldn't throw a butt out on the ground at my place and therefore I certainly wouldn't do it at someone elses place.

Eight months ago I was a smoker; all I know today is I will not become a anti-smoking dick head now that I've quit. If you are a prick about someone smoking then I'll bet you're a prick about most other things as well! I have far to much respect for myself than to be a prick over someone having an addiction problem.

Redneck = Tax-paying, God-fearing American who loves hunting, fishing, mud-bogging, pickup trucks, hound dogs, fried chicken, car races, country music and barbecues - and who believes in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, limited government and the power of the American people.

My kinda Person :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Redneck = Tax-paying, God-fearing American who loves hunting, fishing, mud-bogging, pickup trucks, hound dogs, fried chicken, car races, country music and barbecues - and who believes in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, limited government and the power of the American people.

My kinda Person :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I guess I`m a FL redneck, I love all those things, but I don`t smoke. Thanks Gator for helping me realize who I am. And I`m proud to be a redneck. :thumbsup:

X2 !

"a girl about 20" all bets are off if she was hot! We need pics! :grin:

I quit smoking in 2008, if your boat was a fishing boat then I may not have asked. Or if I did ask and you said no and we were 30 miles out grouper fishing I would politely ask you could you drop me off at the boat ramp so I could have a smoke.

If you are traveling some distance away from the dock and this has already happened twice, then you should be proactive and make it clear before anyone gets on the boat that you have a nonsmoking boat.

...this has already happened twice, then you should be proactive and make it clear before anyone gets on the boat that you have a nonsmoking boat.I'll state for the third time that this was not the point of my post.

The point, for the third time, was to simply ask if you would assume it's okay to smoke on someone's boat without asking.

Tipsy

I took a buddy fishing last season. He asked if he could bring a friend. I said ok. An hour or two into the trip, the 'friend' said he had to take a piss. I picked up the pee bottle and started to hand it to him. He said 'no thanks' and proceeded to piss over the side of the boat. During the release, he managed to get quite a bit of piss on the gunnel. I anxiously waited to see if he'd rinse the piss off the boat. When it was obvious he had no interest in doing so, I said 'here, I'll get it', and grabbed his sweatshirt and wiped up the piss, then handed it to him. His buddy chuckled. A few hours later, his friend had to piss again, and politely asked for the piss jug.

I'll state for the third time that this was not the point of my post.

The point, for the third time, was to simply ask if you would assume it's okay to smoke on someone's boat without asking.

Tipsy

When I was a smoker I would say yes, it is ok to smoke on a boat without asking. Smokers are trained to smoke outside and most boats are operated outside. I would be careful with my ashes and I would not smoke inside the cabin of a boat. I really do not see how smoking infringes upon the boat owners operation of the vessel. The boat owner does not own the ocean.

I am a Georgia Redneck living in Florida.

if I did ask and you said no and we were 30 miles out grouper fishing I would politely ask you could you drop me off at the boat ramp so I could have a smoke.


I would have asked if I could smoke on his boat, after all it is his boat. And if he said no then I would asked as well to be let off at the dock and then I would have reached in my wallet and put down a couple of 20's to make it happen.......I am far to old to be treated like a child.

"Thad'd better be reefer or you are putting it out."

He get's the message and you "keep it real" with the homies.

:rofl:

I'll state for the third time that this was not the point of my post.

The point, for the third time, was to simply ask if you would assume it's okay to smoke on someone's boat without asking.

Tipsy

The simple answer is NO. Not that there's ever a simple answer on THT or did you start this with a simple question. Had you wanted a simple answer, you would have left out the "I'm better than you" connotation of the way you phrased the question.

So, back to the more important question ...........

"BTW, "a girl about 20" all bets are off if she was hot! We need pics! :grin: "

Had you wanted a simple answer, you would have left out the "I'm better than you" connotation of the way you phrased the question.
I see no connotation in my question. Guess I'll have to quote myself:

My point is simply, would you ever get on someones boat, as a guest, whom you don't know and simply light up without so much as asking?



Redneck was mentioned only one time in my original post...in the subject line. I addressed that in post #28 (http://www.thehulltruth.com/4839176-post28.html).


Redneck was written in jest.

Tipsy

Wow a person that goes by Tipsy and lives in New York City!!!

I'd say lighting up on someone's boat it's more a matter of courtesy to ask because the owner may not want people smoking with 100+/- gallons of gasoline on board. Not that is has ever been a big issue but people have always asked me before smoking on my boats mainly for that reason. I always say fine but point out where the fuel vent is on the starboard bow. Easy enough to ask when on someone else's boat.

I'd say lighting up on someone's boat it's more a matter of courtesy to ask because the owner may not want people smoking with 100+/- gallons of gasoline on board. Not that is has ever been a big issue but people have always asked me before smoking on my boats mainly for that reason. I always say fine but point out where the fuel vent is on the starboard bow. Easy enough to ask when on someone else's boat.

I'd say that this post is spot on and not directed at anyone personally. Whats with you guys that want to take a word out of context and make a big deal of it? Sure, in one way or another, most of us could be called rednecks and be proud of it, me included. My only point that I was trying to make is that some on here try to turn things around and post the blame game on the original poster, and thats just wrong, and immature. Threads or posts don't have to be PC or even pass spell check. But for members to try to turn the question around from what the OP actually is wrong, and you know that. Keep playing the "blame the poster" and you'll quickly lose any help from this forum, and its all your own fault. Not just this thread, but many others recently. If all your intentions are is to create a blame situation, you don't belong here. Enough said, but to see what some of you guys have posted is just sad, and probably a good impression of who/what you are probably like.

I see no connotation in my question. Guess I'll have to quote myself:





Redneck was mentioned only one time in my original post...in the subject line. I addressed that in post #28 (http://www.thehulltruth.com/4839176-post28.html).



Tipsy

You quote me out of context and miss the point of several posts. Your post #28 was an after the fact lame excuse for offending a whole group of people. Somehow, I missed how you could call it a joke. What part was funny?

The main point of my posts have been to address that we see the heading "Poor upbrining or just FL Rednecks?" of the thread every time we go to dockside chat, which makes it a lot more than "only one time".

I did try to diffuse or divert attention away from the "controversy" at least twice, yet you still want to pursue your "innocence" and that you didn't do anything wrong. OK, have it your way, your young guest comes from poor upbringing and that's pretty much the way FL Rednecks act.

I don't really care. Although I wouldn't allow my Redneck friends smoke on my boat, I like them just the way they are.

I'd say that this post is spot on and not directed at anyone personally. Whats with you guys that want to take a word out of context and make a big deal of it? Sure, in one way or another, most of us could be called rednecks and be proud of it, me included. My only point that I was trying to make is that some on here try to turn things around and post the blame game on the original poster, and thats just wrong, and immature. Threads or posts don't have to be PC or even pass spell check. But for members to try to turn the question around from what the OP actually is wrong, and you know that. Keep playing the "blame the poster" and you'll quickly lose any help from this forum, and its all your own fault. Not just this thread, but many others recently. If all your intentions are is to create a blame situation, you don't belong here. Enough said, but to see what some of you guys have posted is just sad, and probably a good impression of who/what you are probably like.

Good Lord! I'm not sure what you actually said or meant, but I think in part it's directed toward me. I have no idea what you mean by "post the blame game"? I don't have any problem with the question from Tipsy or do I have a problem (yet) with Tipsy himself. I don't think it's being PC sensitive to calling out a person from NYC that starts a thread with "Poor upbrining or just FL Rednecks?" . If you're fine with that attitude toward Southerners, OK. Had the thread's heading been worded differently, there was a very legitimate question. Still, when you ask such a question, you leave your own actions or lack of actions, up for scrutiny.

All Y'all have a nice night.

Good Lord! I'm not sure what you actually said or meant, but I think in part it's directed toward me. I have no idea what you mean by "post the blame game"? I don't have any problem with the question from Tipsy or do I have a problem (yet) with Tipsy himself. I don't think it's being PC sensitive to calling out a person from NYC that starts a thread with "Poor upbrining or just FL Rednecks?" . If you're fine with that attitude toward Southerners, OK. Had the thread's heading been worded differently, there was a very legitimate question. Still, when you ask such a question, you leave your own actions or lack of actions, up for scrutiny.

All Y'all have a nice night.

Yes, in part it was directed towards you. You did call out a person without cause, other than your own. I can't disagree that the OP could have been more PC in his post, but at the same time, haven't you done the same? Is THT a forum for people, such as yourself to want to fight, and bring out any negatives you can find or create? Comeon, get real, aren't you simply contributing to what you state to be wrong? Sure, anyones actions or lack of are up for scrutinty...are yours amune? Get real!

Your post #28 was an after the fact lame excuse for offending a whole group of people. Somehow, I missed how you could call it a joke. What part was funny?This is comical. Everyday, Dockside Chat is overflowing with posts lamenting the "pussifcation" of America and how "overly PC" we've all become. But now I've offended the Kingdom of Rednecks and suddenly the shoe is on the other foot?

Laughable.

Tipsy

This is comical. Everyday, Dockside Chat is overflowing with posts lamenting the "pussifcation" of America and how "overly PC" we've all become. But now I've offended the Kingdom of Rednecks and suddenly the shoe is on the other foot?

Laughable.

Tipsy

As I said "I don't think it's being PC sensitive to calling out a person from NYC that starts a thread with "Poor upbrining or just FL Rednecks?" "

You can see it anyway you want. I tried on many occasions to diffuse this, yet you seem to want to ramp it up. You win, I have to get to bed and you'll have to play by yourself.

BTW, I never once said you spelled upbrining wrong, so I can't be all bad! :roll :rofl:

BTW, I never once said you spelled upbrining wrong, so I can't be all bad! :roll :rofl:Touché :thumbsup:

Tipsy

Fl. Redneck, NY Yankee god we really need to get over ourselves. IMO the OP used the term Fl Redneck because the person in question was from Fl. If the person would have been from NYC he might just have well said "Yankee" (but we'll never know).

We've got guys here that call themselves Cracker, we're all a product of our environment, lord knows I'm from Northern NJ or if I were down south they call me as if I were from NYC. My style just dictates that, and a Piney from down in South Jersey reflects just that, a guy from the sticks.

Sure I want him as a friend, when I need something fixed he's the guy to get it done, but when he needs accounting done or wants to know how to get rid of his PMI he calls on me.

I'd never kick a guy off my boat for lighting up unless he was crude and flicked ashes on the deck, left his cig in a place where it could burn the gel coat etc. But it's still nice to ask before lighting up.

Ask someone if I can smoke in their backyard....yeah right, as if that would ever happen!....but I would ask them where I could put my butt when I'm done. I wouldn't throw a butt out on the ground at my place and therefore I certainly wouldn't do it at someone elses place.

Eight months ago I was a smoker; all I know today is I will not become a anti-smoking dick head now that I've quit. If you are a prick about someone smoking then I'll bet you're a prick about most other things as well! I have far to much respect for myself than to be a prick over someone having an addiction problem.



What he said!

Eight months ago I was a smoker; all I know today is I will not become a anti-smoking dick head now that I've quit.I never said I was anti-smoking. I implied I wouldn't smoke on someone's personal property without first asking. And I would anticipate the same courtesy from others.

If you are a prick about someone smoking then I'll bet you're a prick about most other things as well! I remember not too long ago trying to help you with a problem you were having. As I recall, I spent some time posting images in a thread to help you solve your problem (http://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside-chat/426994-subscribed-threads.html). Sorry to be such a prick.

In the future, I'll try to be less of a prick and mind my own business.

Tipsy

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