Dockside Chat - Chick-fil-A confirms 'record-setting day' on 'Appreciation Day'
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Gator56
08-02-2012, 03:55 PM
Chick-fil-A announced Thursday morning that supporters who flocked to the restaurant for "Appreciation Day" propelled the company to a "record-setting day."
The statement confirmed anecdotal claims that the long lines seen at Chick-fil-A's across the country Wednesday fueled unprecedented sales. The turnout came after CEO Dan Cathy came under fire in some circles for his opposition to same-sex marriage.
"We are very grateful and humbled by the incredible turnout of loyal Chick-fil-A customers on August 1 at Chick-fil-A restaurants around the country. We congratulate local Chick-fil-A Owner/Operators and their team members for striving to serve each and every customer with genuine hospitality," the company said in a statement. "While we don't release exact sales numbers, we can confirm reports that it was a record-setting day."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/02/huckabee-chick-fil-appreciation-day-beyond-anything-could-have-imagined/#ixzz22Qrc2GiR
gameon
08-03-2012, 06:40 AM
Why would any business want to turn any customers off? Thats just plain stupid business. I wouldn't care what you do or what you look like, as long as you come in and buy my greasy chicken. If anyone asks me anything political at my business, I tell them I have no opinion.
triumphrick
08-03-2012, 06:47 AM
Why would any business want to turn any customers off? Thats just plain stupid business. I wouldn't care what you do or what you look like, as long as you come in and buy my greasy chicken. If anyone asks me anything political at my business, I tell them I have no opinion.
So, the owner of the business is being interviewed and expresses his first amendment rights to free speech....
And those PERSONAL opinions he expressed you take issue with.
Guess what? Those of us that showed up at CFA on Wednesday expressed our rights to defend his opinions.
We spoke with our dollars and our belief anyone and everyone is entitled to an opinion without being castigated by the liberal media or by liberal governors that want to prevent him from opening new stores in their states.
Certainly glad that you feel the way you do.
bikem
08-03-2012, 06:47 AM
Why would any business want to turn any customers off? Thats just plain stupid business. I wouldn't care what you do or what you look like, as long as you come in and buy my greasy chicken. If anyone asks me anything political at my business, I tell them I have no opinion.
I totally agree. I always have people wanting to put up sighns at my retail locations around election times and as much as I want to say yes, I refuse. Its just not good business.
gameon
08-03-2012, 06:58 AM
You don't get it, free speech or not...its STUPID BUSINESS! some places pulled their advertising. People didn't go because it was a hassle. When my cholesteral is in check, I'll eat there, but not if it is a hassle. For gays or against gays, I'm not militant either way. But if I'm worried about them having a disgruntled employee messing with my food or its a hassle to go, that turns me off and I'll go to one of the othe 20 fast food places that serve chicken. So, the owner of the business is being interviewed and expresses his first amendment rights to free speech....
And those PERSONAL opinions he expressed you take issue with.
Guess what? Those of us that showed up at CFA on Wednesday expressed our rights to defend his opinions.
We spoke with our dollars and our belief anyone and everyone is entitled to an opinion without being castigated by the liberal media or by liberal governors that want to prevent him from opening new stores in their states.
Certainly glad that you feel the way you do.
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 07:01 AM
You don't get it, free speech or not...its STUPID BUSINESS! some places pulled their advertising. People didn't go because it was a hassle. When my cholesteral is in check, I'll eat there, but not if it is a hassle. For gays or against gays, I'm not militant either way. But if I'm worried about them having a disgruntled employee messing with my food or its a hassle to go, that turns me off and I'll go to one of the othe 20 fast food places that serve chicken.
:roll
Their sales were off the charts.
They are billionaires.
You don't get it.
Is the bottomline more important than character and conviction anyway?
Why would any business want to turn any customers off? Thats just plain stupid business. I wouldn't care what you do or what you look like, as long as you come in and buy my greasy chicken. If anyone asks me anything political at my business, I tell them I have no opinion.
Maybe there are customers that my business doesn't want to deal with. I refuse to keep my mouth shut just because it might cost me some $$. There is a lot more to it than the almighty dollar.
B-Faithful
08-03-2012, 07:02 AM
Why would any business want to turn any customers off? Thats just plain stupid business. I wouldn't care what you do or what you look like, as long as you come in and buy my greasy chicken. If anyone asks me anything political at my business, I tell them I have no opinion.
The restaurant chain is closed on Sundays. The chain owner obviously puts his values above the bottom line. How many millions are they not collecting by not being open?
The restaurant chain is closed on Sundays. The chain owner obviously puts his values above the bottom line.
Ya might have to explain the word "value" to them.
Garett
08-03-2012, 07:06 AM
Why would any business want to turn any customers off? Thats just plain stupid business. I wouldn't care what you do or what you look like, as long as you come in and buy my greasy chicken. If anyone asks me anything political at my business, I tell them I have no opinion.
For some reason I hear your words bouncing off of walls in an empty room.
One day you open a family restaurant and you expect great success; you have a very impressive first 2 months. But then to your surprise the underworld cultures of Vampires, Gothic’s, Skinheads and Cross dressers start hanging out and occasionally eating at your family restaurant and your very impressive numbers start to fall off the paper.....what do you do, keep smiling like you are now? :rofl:
Ya might have to explain the word "value" to them.
yeah....we and we aren't talking "Chicago values" here.....
Capt Andrew
08-03-2012, 07:08 AM
I'm with Chic Fil A 200 percent,an anyone who is not I BET your buddy didnt get that round mouth eatin square meals......enough said....
Battlewagon
08-03-2012, 07:14 AM
:roll
Their sales were off the charts.
They are billionaires.
You don't get it.
Is the bottomline more important than character and conviction anyway?
Ignore gameon. Obviously trolling or completely uninformed. Or more directly just trying to spread false rumors. The only "disgruntled" employees would be the ones that have to deal with the AA's (Activist Assholes) who think that anybody who doesn't march lock step with them is full of hate.
He also claims some places "Pulled their advertising" Really? Who was running ads on Chick-Fil-A TV?
Bottom line is that some activists had announced a protest for August 1st against Chick-Fil-A. This backfired when activists for free speech and freedom of religion countered with having a support Chick-Fil-A day at the same time. Now the gays have rescheduled their protest for Friday and the news is reporting it as if it had always been that way. Looks like I'll have to go out and eat mor chikin again!
Bottom line is this has made Chick-Fil-A a ton of money.
gameon
08-03-2012, 07:14 AM
Sales were off the charts for one day, see what the long term effects are. Lets say 80% agree with what he said and 20% disagree, why would you want to lose 20% of your customers? Lets face it, what he said is not turning any gays straight. Its easy for him to say, the guy is loaded. The people who own franchises are the ones who get screwed. I have beliefs like everyone else and i express them around people I know. i have 4 major customers that provide me with 100% of my business. I would not say anything to risk losing any of them. :roll
Their sales were off the charts.
They are billionaires.
You don't get it.
Is the bottomline more important than character and conviction anyway?
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 07:16 AM
Ignore gameon.
Bottom line is this has made Chick-Fil-A a ton of money.
Which in turn has planted a whopping amount of money in CHRISTIAN charities from CFA!!!!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
See--God has a great sense of humor.
bikem
08-03-2012, 07:18 AM
We went, waited in line and got chick-fil-a for the whole shop in support wed but I still say it's best to keep politics out of the business place. Why do anything to turn off any of the people putting food on your familys table. Not to mention I'm shure chick-fil-a has a gay employee or two.
Sales were off the charts for one day, see what the long term effects are. Lets say 80% agree with what he said and 20% disagree, why would you want to lose 20% of your customers? Lets face it, what he said is not turning any gays straight. Its easy for him to say, the guy is loaded. The people who own franchises are the ones who get screwed. I have beliefs like everyone else and i express them around people I know. i have 4 major customers that provide me with 100% of my business. I would not say anything to risk losing any of them.
You are delusional. As a businessman you must know you cannot please everyone. If I had to pick between traditional Christians eating in my restaurants or fudgepackers and carpet munchers, I think I prefer the Christian traditionals...better company and more KIDS!! LOL
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 07:25 AM
Not to mention I'm shure chick-fil-a has a gay employee or two.
So-- it is a good place to work--harassment free.
Check it out.
Capt Andrew
08-03-2012, 07:35 AM
What Dr.C said....
bikem
08-03-2012, 07:39 AM
You are delusional. As a businessman you must know you cannot please everyone. If I had to pick between traditional Christians eating in my restaurants or fudgepackers and carpet munchers, I think I prefer the Christian traditionals...better company and more KIDS!! LOL
Well you can enjoy being half of what you can be.
Well you can enjoy being half of what you can be.
I'd be willing to bet that he gets a good night's sleep.
Well you can enjoy being half of what you can be.
1/2?? I'm assuming you are saying if gays quit coming to my restaurant because of my values, that I would lose half my business? If this is what you are saying, you are delusional,too.
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 07:45 AM
I'd be willing to bet that he gets a good night's sleep.
I know 2 different types of millionaires.
Those that fell blessed and give like crazy--then, those that crave the money and fear losing a single dollar.
The latter usually die of a heart attack w/o knowing the most important person in life and have sleepless nights worrying about keeping what they have. Sad.
FYI, Amazon, Target, Steve Ballmer, JC Penny, General Mills....all, openly SUPPORT gay marriage...and yet Christians do NOT boycott them or protest outside their stores. Liberals, "Progressives", whatever you call them, are so hippocritical....it makes me sick.
bikem
08-03-2012, 07:50 AM
1/2?? I'm assuming you are saying if gays quit coming to my restaurant because of my values, that I would lose half my business? If this is what you are saying, you are delusional,too.
Im not talking gays. I'm talking libs. Like it or not they were the majority in the last election.
240 LTS
08-03-2012, 07:51 AM
http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_1490.shtml
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 07:53 AM
FYI, Amazon, Target, Steve Ballmer, JC Penny, General Mills....all, openly SUPPORT gay marriage...and yet Christians do NOT boycott them or protest outside their stores. Liberals, "Progressives", whatever you call them, are so hippocritical....it makes me sick.
I don't buy their crap. I added Wendy's to the list because they hushed an operator's personal opinion. Eat more chikin... not to mention Hollywood movies...
Im not talking gays. I'm talking libs. Like it or not they were the majority in the last election.
I don't think it's the liberal aspect of the people who are protesting CFA...I think it's their homosexual side.
Liberals of all people benefit from freedom of speech, yet they are the first one's to boycott when it's not in their agenda. Hypocrites.
B-Faithful
08-03-2012, 07:56 AM
:)
Trollin4Tuna
08-03-2012, 07:59 AM
So, the owner of the business is being interviewed and expresses his first amendment rights to free speech....
And those PERSONAL opinions he expressed you take issue with.
Guess what? Those of us that showed up at CFA on Wednesday expressed our rights to defend his opinions.
We spoke with our dollars and our belief anyone and everyone is entitled to an opinion without being castigated by the liberal media or by liberal governors that want to prevent him from opening new stores in their states.
Certainly glad that you feel the way you do.
No one is entitled to not be castigated by the media - liberal or not. I agree about the gov't. They have no right to prevent a company from setting up shop as long as they are not violating the laws.
Chick-fil-a can say and give money against gays all they want. Once they discriminate against them, that's another story. Chick-fil-a hasn't done that so they should not be prevented from opening a store in an area a politician who doesn't agree with them has power. If the people in that area feel like the politician then the business will shut down due to lack of sales.
Johnny Dreamer
08-03-2012, 08:00 AM
I will no longer give Chick-fil-A my business.
I will no longer give Chick-fil-A my business.
At least the line will be one shorter.
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 08:02 AM
I will no longer give Chick-fil-A my business.
Does that mean you quit your job as a fry cook?
They give employee's free lunch--even the gay ones. EEEEEKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!
How can they be so hateful!!!!!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
240 LTS
08-03-2012, 08:03 AM
The one side does believe if you disagree with them in any way, you are automatically a hateful homophobe.
It's just not true.
.
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 08:07 AM
The one side does believe if you disagree with them in any way, you are automatically a hateful homophobe.
It's just not true.
.
It is a learned behavior--taught by the Alinskinites...
tomanyboats
08-03-2012, 08:11 AM
gamon.... GAY MAN.. thats so gay... Go CFL... Someone showing some backbone and standing up for whats morally right and their beliefs.
wdkerek
08-03-2012, 08:13 AM
What I see in their movement is a confusion between acceptance and approval.
Many gays, including personal friends, have my acceptance and tolerance.
However, they do not have my approval.
I respect them for being tolerant of my opinion as well.
No business is going to suffer significantly from a boycott from such a small group.
and frankly, IMO, Liberals in general are not convicted enough to stay on course or on task. Simply put, two weeks from now, they will want their chicken sandwhich the easiest way to get it. If that is CFA then they will pull staight into the drive through.
When a choice is made, consequences will happen.
I am sure the CEO of CFA understands the consequences and is willing to live with them.
But militants of any movement rarely will accept the consequenses of decisions and thus paint themselves as victims.
Once you aquiese(sp) to any victim status, you become powerless to move forward.
And you wake up one strange morning feeling compelled to boycott chicken resteraunts like somehow it's going to change the cycle of a powerless life.
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 08:15 AM
what i see in their movement is a confusion between acceptance and approval.many gays, including personal friends, have my acceptance and tolerance.
However, they do not have my approval.
I respect them for being tolerant of my opinion as well.
No business is going to suffer significantly from a boycott from such a small group.
And frankly, imo, liberals in general are not convicted enough to stay on course or on task. Simply put, two weeks from now, they will want their chicken sandwhich the easiest way to get it. If that is cfa then they will pull staight into the drive through.
When a choice is made, consequences will happen.
I am sure the ceo of cfa understands the consequences and is willing to live with them.
But militants of any movement rarely will accept the consequenses of decisions and thus paint themselves as victims.
Once you aquiese(sp) to any victim status, you become powerless to move forward.
And you wake up one strange morning feeling compelled to boycott chicken resteraunts like somehow it's going to change the cycle of a powerless life.
bazzinga!!!!!
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 08:16 AM
wdkerek--precisely why I oppose any regulation or law that equates to approval.
What I see in their movement is a confusion between acceptance and approval.
Many gays, including personal friends, have my acceptance and tolerance.
However, they do not have my approval.
I respect them for being tolerant of my opinion as well.
No business is going to suffer significantly from a boycott from such a small group.
and frankly, IMO, Liberals in general are not convicted enough to stay on course or on task. Simply put, two weeks from now, they will want their chicken sandwhich the easiest way to get it. If that is CFA then they will pull staight into the drive through.
When a choice is made, consequences will happen.
I am sure the CEO of CFA understands the consequences and is willing to live with them.
But militants of any movement rarely will accept the consequenses of decisions and thus paint themselves as victims.
Once you aquiese(sp) to any victim status, you become powerless to move forward.
And you wake up one strange morning feeling compelled to boycott chicken resteraunts like somehow it's going to change the cycle of a powerless life.
OMG, this is a great post!! Insecure people want not only tolerance but acceptance/approval......now I realize why FACEBOOK is so popular....
bikem
08-03-2012, 08:19 AM
OMG, this is a great post!! Insecure people want not only tolerance but acceptance/approval......now I realize why FACEBOOK is so popular....
Agreed that is a good post.:thumbsup:
Qb1rdman
08-03-2012, 09:01 AM
I will no longer give Chick-fil-A my business.
A man of conviction. Two and a half weeks after the interview and this morning you drew a line in the sand.:grin:
How did you vote on the poll in the other thread?
240 LTS
08-03-2012, 09:16 AM
What I see in their movement is a confusion between acceptance and approval.
Many gays, including personal friends, have my acceptance and tolerance.
However, they do not have my approval.
I respect them for being tolerant of my opinion as well.
No business is going to suffer significantly from a boycott from such a small group.
and frankly, IMO, Liberals in general are not convicted enough to stay on course or on task. Simply put, two weeks from now, they will want their chicken sandwhich the easiest way to get it. If that is CFA then they will pull staight into the drive through.
When a choice is made, consequences will happen.
I am sure the CEO of CFA understands the consequences and is willing to live with them.
But militants of any movement rarely will accept the consequenses of decisions and thus paint themselves as victims.
Once you aquiese(sp) to any victim status, you become powerless to move forward.
And you wake up one strange morning feeling compelled to boycott chicken resteraunts like somehow it's going to change the cycle of a powerless life.
“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.”
You are one (along with others here) that knows the difference. :thumbsup:
They do not know the difference and will continue to try and change the things they have no control over.
When they do not get their way, they falsely accuse, call names and attempt to organize the community to boycott.
They see that was a failed attempt but instead of see the errors of their ways, they continue down the same road hoping for different results.
.
gameon
08-03-2012, 09:32 AM
I know I can't please everyone, but I think you are delusional if you think a Successful business can cherry pick who they want as customers. You obviously are not in your own business. Was the owner from Chickfilila saying this when he had one or two stores? He didn't mind taking their money when he was building his business. I'm not familar with the owner, but has he always been public on his opinion about gays or any other group that would keep them out of his stores? I know the Christian thing and closed on sundays. But there are christian churches that allow gays. This seems to be a guy where his success has gotten to his head and in my opinion is a hypocrite, since now when he is sucessful he has a problem with a particular group. And once again he is hurting the little guy who owns a franchise and trying to make a living. You are delusional. As a businessman you must know you cannot please everyone. If I had to pick between traditional Christians eating in my restaurants or fudgepackers and carpet munchers, I think I prefer the Christian traditionals...better company and more KIDS!! LOL
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 09:36 AM
I know I can't please everyone, but I think you are delusional if you think a Successful business can cherry pick who they want as customers. You obviously are not in your own business. Was the owner from Chickfilila saying this when he had one or two stores? He didn't mind taking their money when he was building his business. I'm not familar with the owner, but has he always been public on his opinion about gays or any other group that would keep them out of his stores? I know the Christian thing and closed on sundays. But there are christian churches that allow gays. This seems to be a guy where his success has gotten to his head and in my opinion is a hypocrite, since now when he is sucessful he has a problem with a particular group. And once again he is hurting the little guy who owns a franchise and trying to make a living.
He never said he doesn't allow gays---you have a comprehension problem because you are blinded by your own cloudy convictions.
He was asked a question about conviction and answered it with conviction.
Cowards never finish first place in the Great Race. Dan will finish well. (you don't have a clue as to what I just said.)
Go read the Good Book and and may the scales fall from your eyes.
I know I can't please everyone, but I think you are delusional if you think a Successful business can cherry pick who they want as customers. You obviously are not in your own business.
Wrong. I AM in my own business and we have been choosing our customers for 67 years. Try again.
bikem
08-03-2012, 09:44 AM
Wrong. I AM in my own business and we have been choosing our customers for 67 years. Try again.
Shure you have.:roll
gameon
08-03-2012, 09:44 AM
You must be in the military.
Wrong. I AM in my own business and we have been choosing our customers for 67 years. Try again.
Shure you have.:roll
You know something I don't?
You must be in the military.
Wrong again but that doesn't surprise me.
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 09:52 AM
CFA's end game is not the money. The money is only a means. The means will never corrupt the conviction.
jacksdad
08-03-2012, 09:52 AM
You don't get it, free speech or not...its STUPID BUSINESS! some places pulled their advertising. People didn't go because it was a hassle. When my cholesteral is in check, I'll eat there, but not if it is a hassle. For gays or against gays, I'm not militant either way. But if I'm worried about them having a disgruntled employee messing with my food or its a hassle to go, that turns me off and I'll go to one of the othe 20 fast food places that serve chicken.
Personal integrity. Living life true to ones self. These are the things that the masses don't understand.
Chik Fil A happens to be the BEST in their segment IMO. Best quality food AND by a long, loooooong way the best quality employees. Sweet young kids who are polite, present well and do a good job.
Your last sentence is complete bullshit. You intend for us to believe that you don't think EVERYONE working in a fast food joint is carrying a potential grudge? Have you ever been to a McDonalds or Burger King? Do you really think those folks are thrilled with their lives and hold no grudges?
Slamdancer
08-03-2012, 09:54 AM
CFA does not offer a traditional franchisee. Their operators are hand picked from a very large pool of applicants. Their cash investment is minimal, especially for a chain that averages the highest per store sales of any fast food operation in the US. You can be rest assured that any CFA operator's beliefs are closely aligned to those of CFA, otherwise they would not have a CFA store.
It is debatable if the operator even owns a franchise, as the building and contents belong to CFA and they receive 50% of the monthly net profits. Regardless. for a $50,000 investment, if you can pass the interview process, operatng a CFA is not a bad gig.
It is not for me, but they have upwards of 10,000 applicants a year for the 75 or so stores they open annually.
jacksdad
08-03-2012, 09:55 AM
I would even go further to suggest that unless this country finds its way back to the core belief of a strong family Chik Fil A (and every other business) will have noone to sell to. In that sense Chik Fil A is doing exactly the right thing. They are taking the long view and feel that a strong USA will provide a lot of sales but a tattered and dysfunctional USA will spell ruin for their company along with so many others.
They are right.
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 09:56 AM
CFA does not offer a traditional franchisee. Their operators are hand picked from a very large pool of applicants. Their cash investment is minimal, especially for a chain that averages the highest per store sales of any fast food operation in the US. You can be rest assured that any CFA operator's beliefs are closely aligned to those of CFA, otherwise they would not have a CFA store.
It is debatable if the operator even owns a franchise, as the building and contents belong to CFA and they receive 50% of the monthly net profits. Regardless. for a $50,000 investment, if you can pass the interview process, operatng a CFA is not a bad gig.
It is not for me, but they have upwards of 10,000 applicants a year for the 75 or so stores they open annually.
That's 20,000 applicants and $5,000 investment.
NCcarguy
08-03-2012, 09:56 AM
I totally agree. I always have people wanting to put up sighns at my retail locations around election times and as much as I want to say yes, I refuse. Its just not good business.
Seems like it was....
bikem
08-03-2012, 09:57 AM
You know something I don't?
.I know no matter what business you are in. In 67 years there has to have been someone who got under your skin and you wanted to tell them to go away but didn't to close the deal.
jacksdad
08-03-2012, 09:59 AM
And my last comment (for now)...this issue is not about religion or homosexuality....it is about an out of control gov't picking winners and losers based on a notion of right and wrong.
I know no matter what business you are in. In 67 years there has to have been someone who got under your skin and you wanted to tell them to go away but didn't to close the deal.
I've only been there 30 years and I never have kissed any ass to close a deal. Life is too short and there are too many pleasant people to deal with. I won't compromise my integrity to make the extra $$ as some here will.
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 10:00 AM
I know no matter what business you are in. In 67 years there has to have been someone who got under your skin and you wanted to tell them to go away but didn't to close the deal.
So let's see--2 to 3.5% gay population. Maybe 1% buy a chicken sammich a year at CFA.
Wow--lost $1 million nation wide. Yawn.
Gained a billion yesterday. Praise God. :grin:
Slamdancer
08-03-2012, 10:01 AM
I stand corrected, it is only $5,000
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 10:02 AM
I stand corrected, it is only $5,000
Not picking a fight--I just happen to know them. :thumbsup:
Garett
08-03-2012, 10:26 AM
What I see in their movement is a confusion between acceptance and approval.
Many gays, including personal friends, have my acceptance and tolerance.
However, they do not have my approval.
I respect them for being tolerant of my opinion as well.
How does that work - I don't get it?
For the sake of argument let’s say Justin and Jonathon are your gay friends and of coarse they are lovers to each other. You have clearly stated that you do not approve of their life style and actions and yet you are willing to be seen in public with them while they are holding hands and kissing? :roll ;?
I don't know, but to me that sounds like me hanging out with a well known shop lifter and yet I go to stores with him all the time. Why on earth would I want to be associated with a person that has a red flag hanging over his head? :roll :bashhh: ~ :nono:
I like friends, but I am not desperate enough to have people around me that I do not approve of their actions or their action causes other people to look strangely at me and question my values. :nono: You must be in a much greater need for friends than I am. :roll
gameon
08-03-2012, 10:28 AM
Your right...you caught me. I never go to McDonalds or BK and totally avoid fast food. That shit is garbage and horrible for you, even without the $8/hr server putting his special recipe in your vanilla shake. I need to go over to the high cholesteral forum even without this garbage in my system. Your last sentence is complete bullshit. You intend for us to believe that you don't think EVERYONE working in a fast food joint is carrying a potential grudge? Have you ever been to a McDonalds or Burger King? Do you really think those folks are thrilled with their lives and hold no grudges?
Tireless
08-03-2012, 10:39 AM
You don't get it, free speech or not...its STUPID BUSINESS! some places pulled their advertising. People didn't go because it was a hassle. When my cholesteral is in check, I'll eat there, but not if it is a hassle. For gays or against gays, I'm not militant either way. But if I'm worried about them having a disgruntled employee messing with my food or its a hassle to go, that turns me off and I'll go to one of the othe 20 fast food places that serve chicken.
I am quite certain they aren't missing you at CFA. They sell $4 billion of chicken every year and they are closed on Sundays.
Tireless
08-03-2012, 10:41 AM
You are delusional. As a businessman you must know you cannot please everyone. If I had to pick between traditional Christians eating in my restaurants or fudgepackers and carpet munchers, I think I prefer the Christian traditionals...better company and more KIDS!! LOL
He is more than delusional.
Tireless
08-03-2012, 10:44 AM
I will no longer give Chick-fil-A my business.
There are plenty of gay places where they would be happy for you to give them "your business".
there are plenty of gay places where they would be happy for you to give them "your business".
lol
semperfifishing
08-03-2012, 11:00 AM
Up until about 7 months ago President Obama stated he also was in favor of traditional marriage and was opposed to same sex marriage........but not a peep out of the Gay movement or national press. No boycots in his hometown of Chicago.
Of course he did not sell chicken..only bull.
Warlock
08-03-2012, 11:23 AM
Been following this thread and realize that I may be biased against gays because I just don't know much about them. I think there may be others in my shoes as well.
Why don't they have a Gay for Dummies yellow book to help others understand them.
Just for starters I have always wondered if a gay pair knows right away who is on top.
Not even to mention wondering what you use and where do you stick it, Explain use of toys and Gerbels. What is the Golden Shower all about? Does fudge packing create any problems with constipation? What fruits and vegetables are used and shouldn't they have some protection by law.
How long before you push for 2 men and a gerbil for a recognized union. Substitute Horses, etc. for the extremely ugly females.
How do you know when you are finished?
Do you really believe you are just like everybody else?
What's wrong with the closet?
I'm sure this is another time where the truth will come out if the facts are aired. Glad to do my part to help with breaking the ice.
ScarabChris
08-03-2012, 11:41 AM
Great job on the boycott! You really showed them! :rofl:
BTMcB
08-03-2012, 11:47 AM
Up until about 7 months ago President Obama stated he also was in favor of traditional marriage and was opposed to same sex marriage........but not a peep out of the Gay movement or national press. No boycots in his hometown of Chicago.
Of course he did not sell chicken..only bull.
Well put. Too bad more folks don't see through the "bull".....put out by the 99% of the media and 100% of the white house.
gameon
08-03-2012, 12:07 PM
I guess you missed the original point, I don't care what they say about gays or anything else chickfila does. My point is that its bad for business when you exclude paying customers from your business. I guess it evolved into something else. If I owned chickfila or any other business that serves the public I would tell my CEO that you have no public opinion. You've got to be an idiot to lose any percentage of your business because you don't like the color red or any other opinion that turns away paying customers. I think I'm going to start a new thread based on this. I am quite certain they aren't missing you at CFA. They sell $4 billion of chicken every year and they are closed on Sundays.
Captain Willie
08-03-2012, 12:09 PM
I guess you missed the original point, I don't care what they say about gays or anything else chickfila does. My point is that its bad for business when you exclude paying customers from your business. I guess it evolved into something else. If I owned chickfila or any other business that serves the public I would tell my CEO that you have no public opinion. You've got to be an idiot to lose any percentage of your business because you don't like the color red or any other opinion that turns away paying customers. I think I'm going to start a new thread based on this.
Owner/operators don't tell the CEO what to say.
Do you know any thing about how CFA operates?
You can't go out and buy a CFA --no matter how much cash you have.
Ntrain2k
08-03-2012, 01:03 PM
I guess you missed the original point, I don't care what they say about gays or anything else chickfila does. My point is that its bad for business when you exclude paying customers from your business. I guess it evolved into something else. If I owned chickfila or any other business that serves the public I would tell my CEO that you have no public opinion. You've got to be an idiot to lose any percentage of your business because you don't like the color red or any other opinion that turns away paying customers. I think I'm going to start a new thread based on this.
CFA does not exclude anyone as a customer.
fidhhook54
08-03-2012, 01:08 PM
It´s a marketing campaign, it sure is paying off...
emudryj
08-03-2012, 01:10 PM
Wrong. I AM in my own business and we have been choosing our customers for 67 years. Try again.
Been in bussines for no more than 4 and been choosign from day 1...
Actually I beleive it to be the key for a good part of succes...
joyglen
08-03-2012, 01:14 PM
Maybe there are customers that my business doesn't want to deal with. I refuse to keep my mouth shut just because it might cost me some $$. There is a lot more to it than the almighty dollar.
Excellent, Excellent, Excellent. Me too! I voice my opinion and don't care if you deal with me or not. I don't want your money if you piss me off or get in my face or say dumb things to me, my other customers or my staff.
BTW, I run/own an Exxon station with two repair shops, towing and wrecker, etc.
Pride and feelings and what is right is more important than dollars. But then again, I am not broke or hard up for cash.
Been in bussines for no more than 4 and been choosign from day 1...
Actually I beleive it to be the key for a good part of succes...
....and long life my friend!! Keep it up. I have had my own business for 23 years. Started out trying to please everyone....didn't work out so well. Please the people who treat you as good as you treat them and you will be a much happier business person. Good Luck!!
wdkerek
08-03-2012, 03:04 PM
How does that work - I don't get it?
For the sake of argument let’s say Justin and Jonathon are your gay friends and of coarse they are lovers to each other. You have clearly stated that you do not approve of their life style and actions and yet you are willing to be seen in public with them while they are holding hands and kissing? :roll ;?
I don't know, but to me that sounds like me hanging out with a well known shop lifter and yet I go to stores with him all the time. Why on earth would I want to be associated with a person that has a red flag hanging over his head? :roll :bashhh: ~ :nono:
I like friends, but I am not desperate enough to have people around me that I do not approve of their actions or their action causes other people to look strangely at me and question my values. :nono: You must be in a much greater need for friends than I am. :roll
Love the sinner hate the sin?
Is that too simplistic?
Two friends in partucular I grew up with from Kindergarten.
one male
one female
I watched the male friends parents abandon him more or less and his "gayness" became a flaming overtness......we don't hang out, but I will not shun him in public settings
My female friend tells this story of her father, a strong cajun catholic, simple good man and her fear of telling him about her partner.
His words are classic.....
"bae, you are my daughter. My little girl......if you tell me you love a frog, I'm gonna love dat frog......."
We should all be so simple.
He didn't say "like" or "approve" he said love.
Jesus loved unconditionally, we should strive to follow that lead.
He did not however approve.
Gator56
08-03-2012, 03:24 PM
:roll
Their sales were off the charts.
They are billionaires.
You don't get it.
Is the bottomline more important than character and conviction anyway?
Thank you and those people 'The Cathys' are from here in the Atlanta area and they are the nicest people you'll ever meet and just because they think a marriage is suppose to be between a man and a woman was the answer they gave and the F-In media and politicians blew it up to what it is just so they might get recognized from the public eye as well. WTF marriage is suppose to be between a man and a woman not two guys lockin their dingleberries around each ones tallawhacker.
wdkerek
08-03-2012, 03:55 PM
I guess you missed the original point, I don't care what they say about gays or anything else chickfila does. My point is that its bad for business when you exclude paying customers from your business. I guess it evolved into something else. If I owned chickfila or any other business that serves the public I would tell my CEO that you have no public opinion. You've got to be an idiot to lose any percentage of your business because you don't like the color red or any other opinion that turns away paying customers. I think I'm going to start a new thread based on this.
I understand your thought process about this. However, millions are being spent as we speak defining "cost to serve" a customer.
There are customers that you may EVEN WANT TO SELL TO, but there cost to serve is too high.
In other words, until a customer let's you charge them thier "pain in my ass" price, they simply drive you out of business.
Business is not about selling alot .......it's about making alot.
The gay community may in fact drive away the masses at a resteraunt....and of course on the desperate terms of "equality" you cannot legally charge them more.........
so running them away can and may well in fact, be more profitable to the bottom line.
You cannot deposit sales.......you deposit profit......
Capeesh?
dosscraft
08-03-2012, 04:55 PM
What I see in their movement is a confusion between acceptance and approval.
Many gays, including personal friends, have my acceptance and tolerance.
However, they do not have my approval.
I respect them for being tolerant of my opinion as well.
No business is going to suffer significantly from a boycott from such a small group.
and frankly, IMO, Liberals in general are not convicted enough to stay on course or on task. Simply put, two weeks from now, they will want their chicken sandwhich the easiest way to get it. If that is CFA then they will pull staight into the drive through.
When a choice is made, consequences will happen.
I am sure the CEO of CFA understands the consequences and is willing to live with them.
But militants of any movement rarely will accept the consequenses of decisions and thus paint themselves as victims.
Once you aquiese(sp) to any victim status, you become powerless to move forward.
And you wake up one strange morning feeling compelled to boycott chicken resteraunts like somehow it's going to change the cycle of a powerless life.
Could not agree more.
tomanyboats
08-03-2012, 05:07 PM
Dude, thats awesome and I agree 1000%
Gator56
WTF marriage is suppose to be between a man and a woman not two guys lockin their dingleberries around each ones tallawhacker.
WTF marriage is suppose to be between a man and a woman not two guys lockin their dingleberries around each ones tallawhacker.
Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.