Dockside Chat - TWIC card / airport security

Anyone heard that if you show the TSA inspectors at the airports your TWIC card, they just motion you thru?

No! And they don't!

I doubt it.

Anyone heard that if you show the TSA inspectors at the airports your TWIC card, they just motion you thru?

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I tried using it as an ID, and they didn't know what the hell it was:rofl::rofl:


You really want to jack with them? Hand them both of your passports.


Big Al

Many TSA agents won't even know its a federal ID.

The TWIC gives us security clearance for marine ports, not air ports.

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You really want to jack with them? Hand them both of your passports.


Big Al

Canadian, Eh??

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The TWIC gives us security clearance for marine ports, not air ports.

That depends on who you work for. :thumbsup:

I just showed my twic card and captains license to the TSA guy at Orlando Intl and he accepted it. I figured might as well give it a try.

they will take TSA and Global Entry, I like the Pre Check associated with Global Entry, quick confirmation of finger prints and they send you through a metal detector, no computer out of bag, no shoes off, etc....

So they do and they don't....just depends huh.... You'd think they all would know what a TWIC card was, but hey, its fed.

So they do and they don't....just depends huh.... You'd think they all would know what a TWIC card was, but hey, its fed.

TWIC is a valid federal ID, but I've seen no one claim it got them "motioned through". ;?

The TSA is the biggest bunch of morons on the planet. Hell will freeze over before I EVER deal with those jackasses again.

As long as the airlines allow this crap, they deserve to go into financial ruin.

The TWIC card is no diffrent than a drivers license.they're not going to waive you through but is an Offical federal ID that is HSPD12 compliant if anyone at TSA doesn't accept your TWIC card you should report them. Its no different than the ID TSA is wearing technically speaking.

The TWIC card is no diffrent than a drivers license.they're not going to waive you through but is an Offical federal ID that is HSPD12 compliant if anyone at TSA doesn't accept your TWIC card you should report them. Its no different than the ID TSA is wearing technically speaking.

I don't have the time nor inclination to report every single TSA worker in the continental U.S.

As an experiment, I attempted to use my TWIC card at 12 different airports over the course of 17 days. NONE of the TSA folks that I presented it to knew what it was. The ASKED ME what it was.

Never mind the multiple passports at the immigration/passport control stations - that just gets you escorted to the back room where they have to get someone with a brain (as opposed to just a sidearm and a computer terminal) to realize that is is perfectly legal to hold two U.S. passports.

How can we have security when those providing the security don't know about the documents issued to insure said security?


Big Al

Me at bank

Me:Hi I would like to withdraw $30
Teller: ok...can I please see some ID?
Me: sure(present my TWIC card)
Teller: Sir that ID isn't going to work
Me: Why....?...
Teller: Because I don't know what that is
Me: Ok...so that's my fault .....?...
Teller: Sir I cant use that............
Me: I don't understand......
Teller: Who issued you that........?...........
Me: Its a Gov issued card where I had to have extensive background checks on me to get it..... probably more then you had to have to get this job!
Teller: :(

I dropped my 2nd US passport in the Riyadh airport pulling out my first and it earned me a trip to the back room......ya think the TSA are a buncha idiots, try the KSA Nat'l security force :banghead:

I dropped my 2nd US passport in the Riyadh airport pulling out my first and it earned me a trip to the back room......ya think the TSA are a buncha idiots, try the KSA Nat'l security force :banghead:

Where do you think I got my second passport?:o:grin::grin:


Big Al

The TWIC card is a waste of my time and a waste of my money. When I fly I do use it as my ID just to see what happens, so far it has worked for me. Only once did someone deny me and I told them to get their supervisor once he showed up I was on my way.

The required card readers are still not in sufficient supply to be useful, a lot of small docks and terminals cant afford to buy one, and half of the places I have been want to see your drivers license instead. I think the TWIC was dreamed up by the sub-contractors who run the program as a way to get more money. They had the ear of a few worthless politicians who rammed it through during the post-9/11 security craze.

Me at bank

Me:Hi I would like to withdraw $30
Teller: ok...can I please see some ID?
Me: sure(present my TWIC card)
Teller: Sir that ID isn't going to work
Me: Why....?...
Teller: Because I don't know what that is
Me: Ok...so that's my fault .....?...
Teller: Sir I cant use that............
Me: I don't understand......
Teller: Who issued you that........?...........
Me: Its a Gov issued card where I had to have extensive background checks on me to get it..... probably more then you had to have to get this job!
Teller: :(
You know its a weird looking card that hardly anyone knows about outside of the professional marine industry... I'm sure you knew that before you handed it to him/her. Did it make you feel better using it to show how cool you were to the bank teller?

Ever wonder why boat captains have the reputation they have?

I tried using it. At Orlando it worked, but I still had to go thru the xray.
At Lincoln Nebraska and Ohare, they said they could not "read" it, but I could go thru the xray search.

I have metal in my chest from a surgery. That tripped the machine. However, I showed the scar and they let me thru.

You know its a weird looking card that hardly anyone knows about outside of the professional marine industry... I'm sure you knew that before you handed it to him/her. Did it make you feel better using it to show how cool you were to the bank teller?

Ever wonder why boat captains have the reputation they have?

Well let me break it down like this...........


A: Lets not get it twisted....I can assure you that I'm cooler then Vanilla Ice was in his prime so I'll be damned if I need a bank teller to assure me of that....so NO to answer that question for you

B: I keep my money in a place of business OF MY CHOICE. And its their job to make sure it stays there. So if the teller wants to see a drivers LIC or a passport then she should have asked for so. But she didn't..she asked for ID which I presented to her. And its a federal government ID which can be authenticated by calling that number on the back. Bottom line is.. I had left my wallet at home that day and I needed some $ for lunch and its all the ID I had so maybe that will clear a few other questions you might have had/have.

C: She NEVER attempted to a authenticate my ID with the higher ups within the bank which yes did frustrate me a little. I mean that's why the saying goes "that's above your pay grade".

D:"Ever wonder why boat captains have the reputation they have?"

I must say ............ there is so much irony in that sentence and your post.... that its just awesome. :thumbsup:

Ever wonder why boat captains have the reputation they have?

Nope...I don't. How 'bout expanding on that a little??

Ever wonder why boat captains have the reputation they have?



Haven't heard they had one. I'm all ears.

Anyone heard that if you show the TSA inspectors at the airports your TWIC card, they just motion you thru?Yep, that is absolutely true. I showed mine to the TSA guys, and they motioned me right through that air booth that made a mess of my hair. I had heard they would polish my shoes after they came through the x-ray machine, but I guess that was wrong.

Does this TWIC card come with a secret decoder ring? Jesus, off duty cops have to pass security along with the crews that fly the aircraft..

I fly a lot and if I am early, I'll use the TWIC card just to mess with them. When I first got the card, hardly any TSA folks would accept it. But in the last year, I don't recall having it turned down or questioned. My favorite part of dealing with someone who won't take it was turning the card over and showing them where it says "If found, please mail to TSA......"

On the TWIC faq page.


Q. Will this credential be required for all modes of transportation?

A. At this time, the TWIC program is focused on the maritime mode, specifically MTSA-regulated facilities and vessels.



Q. Is TWIC an acceptable form of ID at an airport screening checkpoint?

A. Yes, the TWIC card is an approved government issued photo ID.

http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers/twic/twic_faqs.shtm

The TWIC card is a waste of my time and a waste of my money. When I fly I do use it as my ID just to see what happens, so far it has worked for me. Only once did someone deny me and I told them to get their supervisor once he showed up I was on my way.

The required card readers are still not in sufficient supply to be useful, a lot of small docks and terminals cant afford to buy one, and half of the places I have been want to see your drivers license instead. I think the TWIC was dreamed up by the sub-contractors who run the program as a way to get more money. They had the ear of a few worthless politicians who rammed it through during the post-9/11 security craze.

I think you hit the nail on the head. The contractor is making a fortune at $135 a piece. It was definitely a political deal. The requirement that a charter capt needs one is ridiculous. Who does he show it to at Joe's Marina when he comes to work in the morning.

It's my understanding that the regs have changed on who and who doesn't need a TWIT card. I'm pretty sure they don't apply to charter boat/delivery Captains anymore. Mine's good for a few more years, but hopefully I won't have to renew.

Twic was just the frosting on the cake. Try getting into Ga ports or Norfolk port once you have used your twic more than 5 times. Don't know if its happening to all of them or not but the two I pull out of Ga and Norfolk, you now have to have their port issued card along with Twic.
At the present, both of these extra cards do not cost you anything but give it time.

I tried my Clemson alum card - fail

On the TWIC faq page.


Q. Will this credential be required for all modes of transportation?

A. At this time, the TWIC program is focused on the maritime mode, specifically MTSA-regulated facilities and vessels.



Q. Is TWIC an acceptable form of ID at an airport screening checkpoint?

A. Yes, the TWIC card is an approved government issued photo ID.

http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers/twic/twic_faqs.shtm

Would I lie to you guys? go back and read my post this aint rocket science

Twic was just the frosting on the cake. Try getting into Ga ports or Norfolk port once you have used your twic more than 5 times. Don't know if its happening to all of them or not but the two I pull out of Ga and Norfolk, you now have to have their port issued card along with Twic.
At the present, both of these extra cards do not cost you anything but give it time.

We crew change at NIT 90% of the time and leave our cars at pier 3. I think its stupid that you have to show the rent a cop at the gate the port twic and the real twic. You cant get the port twic without a real twic so why show both?? Why not just use the real one??

We crew change at NIT 90% of the time and leave our cars at pier 3. I think its stupid that you have to show the rent a cop at the gate the port twic and the real twic. You cant get the port twic without a real twic so why show both?? Why not just use the real one??
Just the rules they have and I agree its overkill. They have also gone crazy on us getting the BMW's out of that place. You will sign and date less papers getting married or adopting a kid than you will getting a load of BMW's out of GA ports now. I think its job security but they have that place so screwed up its a joke. 105 working on black top pavement they give us sticky patches to wear on our shirts, and have guys walking around looking to see if your wearing them. They last about 15 minuets in summer. First 10 we're doing paperwork inside the truck. :rofl::rofl:
Its the MO better, good old boys way to do things down under. :rofl:

In Jan my wife went round trip to Vegas with a CA license that expired in 2008(she had a totally different hair color than now in the pic) and a current credit card.

We flew to Italy a month ago and leaving Philly again they wouldn't take my new passport as valid ID because I forgot to sign it.

It just depends on which ASS clown you get.

No! And they don't!



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I have badges to enter a couple of different airports and have access and can drive on the airfields and the apron without going through any security checkpoints or inspections when entering the airfields yet TSA still insist that they need to grope and molest me prior to boarding a commercial flight.

Anyone heard that if you show the TSA inspectors at the airports your TWIC card, they just motion you thru?

I would assume you are only talking about the two separate lines that TSA has, one for the general public and the other for airline employees, and also for a a select few pre-approved folks. I am not sure that your TWIX card would allow you access to the shorter employee line, but it might. However you still would have to go through the screening process. I have an airport issued card that I use occasionally when the lines are a mile long, and I never have a problem, even though the card is not issued from that airport. But I still have to go through the screening process.

I would assume you are only talking about the two separate lines that TSA has, one for the general public and the other for airline employees, and also for a a select few pre-approved folks. I am not sure that your TWIX card would allow you access to the shorter employee line, but it might. However you still would have to go through the screening process. I have an airport issued card that I use occasionally when the lines are a mile long, and I never have a problem, even though the card is not issued from that airport. But I still have to go through the screening process.

Just made the short line in Tampa. They offered. I didn't ask. Card around my neck, in a holder. They know what these things are, more now.

Or it's my pretty smile?;?

Just did the three year renewal for 60 bucks.

Originally, I got my TWIC card, then a few month later I went to the CG office at the fed building in Portland, Or and gave them my DL and TWIC card for ID for my renewed CG license.

CG lady said they could not take the TWIC card as ID. WTF!!!!!!!!
Had to go back 35 miles and get my BC (that does not have my picture on it) and they took that.

its just another damn tax, that's all :banghead::banghead::banghead:

The feds have at least two different programs for border states along the Canadian border it's called NEXUS. I have heard there is one for the Mexican border other than coyote, just can't remember the name. These programs started for frequent border crossers, they required a background check from both countries. Once you had been approved there are special lines and relaxed procedures for clearing customs. These programs were recently expanded to include airports under the trusted traveler program. You have to provide your TT number when purchasing your ticket. Using that program there is a designated screening area that just requires a carry on screen and metal detector scan. When we have flown, the lines are short or non existent and the screening is simple and quick. In order to use this in Canadian Airports we have to get an iris scan than the it's valid in all commonwealth countries so I've been told. Crossing the border by boat just requires a phone call, not pulling into a customs dock both coming and going..

If you get tired of confusing TSA workers with that TWIC, then next time hand them a concealed weapon license, another government-issued photo ID with a thorough background check behind it. Course, that might also get you a trip to the ol' back room...

TWIC card did not work for me,TSA asked me what was a TWIC card

If you get tired of confusing TSA workers with that TWIC, then next time hand them a concealed weapon license, another government-issued photo ID with a thorough background check behind it. Course, that might also get you a trip to the ol' back room...

I have done this a few time. Never got to the back room.

I want a TWIC now just to have one

Interesting. I just looked here: twicprogram.tsa.dhs.gov/ for more info and my computer says "There is a problem with this website's security certificate.






The security certificate presented by this website has expired or is not yet valid.



Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you send to the server. "

About the only ID that will get you through without having to go through security is if you are a federal agent. My military ID only gets me a thanks for your service even though I have had to go through security background checks.

One time I got pulled to the side after showing my ID and got a through pat down. I made the comment to the TSA agent thanks for the extra touching and that the last time I had gotten on an aircraft I didn't need a pat down even though I was carrying a pistol and in command of an aircraft with 2 .50 machine guns and a 7.62mm machine gun. All I got was a double look and told I could leave.

What's the old George Carlin airport security line? "I'm tired of a someone with a double digit IQ making six figures going through my luggage and not finding anything."

If you get tired of confusing TSA workers with that TWIC, then next time hand them a concealed weapon license, another government-issued photo ID with a thorough background check behind it. Course, that might also get you a trip to the ol' back room...

Worked just fine in Orlando. But TSA lady had very little English language skills (actually, no detectable English at all) so she really wasn't able to object.;?

Rental car company kept my license & I flew home using my Alabama pistol permit no issues. My wife left her purse in the hotel while in Hawaii and flew back to Mobile, without one. Went to Beau Rivage Casino, drivers license expired 2 days prior, old not let me play in poker tourney and would not accept Alabama pistol permit. ID rules are all over the board.

About the only ID that will get you through without having to go through security is if you are a federal agent. My military ID only gets me a thanks for your service even though I have had to go through security background checks.

One time I got pulled to the side after showing my ID and got a through pat down. I made the comment to the TSA agent thanks for the extra touching and that the last time I had gotten on an aircraft I didn't need a pat down even though I was carrying a pistol and in command of an aircraft with 2 .50 machine guns and a 7.62mm machine gun. All I got was a double look and told I could leave.

What's the old George Carlin airport security line? "I'm tired of a someone with a double digit IQ making six figures going through my luggage and not finding anything."

Are you carrying a CAC or retiree card?

Whatever is happening to you with your CAC card is flat wrong. I use mine exclusively when going through airport security. I fly all the time. The CAC is HPD112 presidential directive compliant for an official form of ID. Your CAC is the same format look an feel albiet slightly different color as the ones the TSA morons have. The overall objective is to have TWIX CAC DHS whatever other agency be compliant across the board. In fact at Reagan I go through the express line without having to take my shoes off or remove my laptop. The CAC is an official form of federal ID.

I pick up my TWIC this Friday. ( the story of the process is a perfect example of a poor Gov. Run process)

I will definetly try to use it next time I go to the airport!

Interesting. I just looked here: twicprogram.tsa.dhs.gov/ for more info and my computer says "There is a problem with this website's security certificate.






The security certificate presented by this website has expired or is not yet valid.



Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you send to the server. "



FYI thats normal most of the DOD websites I go to to fill out forms look at DED documents etc all have that flag when you go to the site.

you want to skip security? Fly armed !! I have several times..right past security, escort to gate, first to board, intro to entire crew, upgrade to 1st class each time. Wish i could do so for more than work flights. :grin:

I have SIDA Badges for a couple different airports and can drive my personal vehicle onto the airfield without going through security however going through TSA it is absolutely useless. ;?

I've never tried to use my at the airport. I was at Port Everglades this weekend for a graduation and handed my TWIC to the guy at the gate and he looked at me like I had 4 heads and asked for my DL. Seriously....;?

Global entry works every other time for me. I tried using and it the other day in Detroit and they sent me to the other line. They blamed the airline, and the airline blamed TSA

TWIC has worked fine for me half a dozens times at the AP.

you want to skip security? Fly armed !! I have several times..right past security, escort to gate, first to board, intro to entire crew, upgrade to 1st class each time. Wish i could do so for more than work flights. :grin:

At FLL TSA would always tell me go to da white door boss:thumbsup: