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Master of Disaster
06-19-2012, 12:37 PM
I updated an old thread earlier this morning, but thought I would start a new one because I don't think anyone wants to read through my long story.

So here is my long story short:
60HP Mercury 2 stroke outboard. A year ago I had a bad fuel pump that was literally falling apart and floating trash (looked like black pepper flakes) up into the fuel filter and carbs and causing fuel starvation problems. Before I knew that it was the fuel pump I replaced the tank, pickup tube, all fuel lines, water seperator, inline filters, etc. So that's all new. After I rebuilt the fuel pump all my problems were solved for over a year and at least 50 hours on the motor.

Yesterday I went over a wake of another boat and the motor bogged down and died. I started it back up and it ran ok, but I was back to the dock within a few minutes.

I talked to a mechanic today and he told me I probably still have some of that fuel pump trash/pepper sitting in my carb bowls and the wake from the other boat sloshed some up into a jet. He tells me to rebuild the carbs.

I'm thinking about opening the carb bowl drain plugs and pumping a pint or more of fresh fuel through to 'rinse it out'. Will that work or do I really need to rebuild the carbs? I don't think it's gummed up from ethanol or anything. I think that because it happened when I sloshed over the wake, the mechanic's theory is probably right. I also don't think it's water in the fuel, because I dumped the seperator into a glass and it had no water in it. I pulled the inline filter past the fuel pump and it didn't look even a little bit blocked.

Since I rebuilt the fuel pump last summer the motor has run like a dream. No hestiation even once. Is it reasonable to think the the trash has been sitting at the bottom of my carb bowls for over a year and 50 hours of great performance?


eggsuckindog
06-19-2012, 12:42 PM
that will work perfectly - will flush the whole system out - hope that works but it should if thats the issue.

most carbs don't need new gaskets and a needle and seat which is all a carb rebuild is

Diesel Dawg
06-19-2012, 01:04 PM
That will flush only the bowl out, it wont get anything stuck in your jets or anywhere else.

Those carbs are EXTREMELY simple. Many people use the term "Rebuild" Theres typically nothing to rebuild!! Just ake it apart, spray carb cleaner down every hole, nook, cranny, clean out all dirt/debris, unscrew the jets, make sure they're clean and put everything back together! Done! Piece of cake! There's seriously nothing hard about it if you are even the least bit handy with some screw drivers and some sockets.....

If there is trash in your carb, you risk running the engine lean and blowing it up. Isnt it worth it to spend an hour to pull that carb off and make it spotless so you know that you're whole fuel system is now in check? Would be for me!

Go do it! :grin:


Master of Disaster
06-19-2012, 01:07 PM
Those carbs are EXTREMELY simple. Many people use the term "Rebuild" Theres typically nothing to rebuild!! Just ake it apart, spray carb cleaner down every hole, nook, cranny, clean out all dirt/debris, unscrew the jets, make sure they're clean and put everything back together! Done! Piece of cake! There's seriously nothing hard about it if you are even the least bit handy with some screw drivers and some sockets.....

If there is trash in your carb, you risk running the engine lean and blowing it up. Isnt it worth it to spend an hour to pull that carb off and make it spotless so you know that you're whole fuel system is now in check? Would be for me!

Go do it! :grin:

I'm actually very handy with screw drivers and sockets! I love that kind of stuff. I'm not intimidated by taking the carbs apart and putting them back together. I'm intimidated by the 'link and sync' part of the process. I had a mechanic 'link and sync' the carbs when I first bought the boat, and I don't want to mess it up. This motor runs great right now, and I'm afraid that part of the job is a mystery to me because it has to be done under load and I can't imagine being out on the water or boat ramp with the cowl off adjusting linkages. Is there a simple way around that?

robedney
06-19-2012, 01:29 PM
I'd stick with the simple and obvious on the first try. Suck the gas out of the bowl with a turkey baster and have a look at the bottom. Clean out thoroughly. If you can get to the bowl output port, stick the straw from a can of carb cleaner in it and give it a good spray. Prime the bowl with fresh gas and reassemble. I'll bet that solves your problem. Wash the turkey baster with soap and water, dry thoroughly and return to the kitchen drawer. Don't tell anybody.

Master of Disaster
06-19-2012, 01:39 PM
I'd stick with the simple and obvious on the first try. Suck the gas out of the bowl with a turkey baster and have a look at the bottom. Clean out thoroughly. If you can get to the bowl output port, stick the straw from a can of carb cleaner in it and give it a good spray. Prime the bowl with fresh gas and reassemble. I'll bet that solves your problem. Wash the turkey baster with soap and water, dry thoroughly and return to the kitchen drawer. Don't tell anybody.

This would be my preferred method. I just worry that some piece of fuel pump trash that is causing my problem still hangs out stuck to the bowl somewhere.

Diesel Dawg
06-19-2012, 01:45 PM
There are 2 ways to sync a carb. I'm not familiar with which one Merc uses.
1) Mechanical linkage controls butterflys. Dont adjust them when you take it apart and they will be perfectly sync'd when you put them back together
2) Air mixture screw....count exactly how many turns it takes till they bottom out softly before taking them out. Set them back to this position when re-installing them.

I think most outboards use the linkage method of synchronizing. as long as you dont change the adjustment on the butterfly or on the linkage, you'll be just fine..

Go do it!:grin:

Master of Disaster
06-19-2012, 01:59 PM
Go do it!:grin:

I'd love to go do it, but the boat is at the beach about 2.5 hours from me. The next time I'll get down there will be 4th of July weekend. I'd rather be on the water than having my carbs taken apart in the living room, but I guess I'll have to.

jonesg
06-19-2012, 04:52 PM
When you do rebuild the carbs you get a feeling that it was so silly to be afraid of a very simple DIY job. Theres a lot of viseo's on Youtube,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY8H6SsV5Fk



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