The Carolinas - Big Rock BMT 2012

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WakeTurbulence
06-06-2012, 08:13 AM
With just 3 days prior to the tournament, the website is showing only 11 boats participating. Do boats participating in this event normally wait till the last minute for registration? Surely the Big Rock website is updated this close to the commencement of the tournament...


C. Edmund
06-06-2012, 08:34 AM
Yes, they normally wait. In fact, they don't even start taking entries until pretty late. I always wonder with a bad economy whether participation will be down - but the short answer is yes, it's always a last minute thing.

offshore3144
06-06-2012, 09:13 AM
Always a last minute thing. There will be plenty of boats.


CaptGorges
06-06-2012, 12:32 PM
It was entertaining seeing the girl at the desk's reaction when the guy in line in front of me last year handed her $18,000 cash, had an armed guard up there with her.

Just Not Right
06-06-2012, 01:07 PM
I know of 1 team, cash in hand waiting to see the weater forcast..

gary240
06-06-2012, 01:10 PM
They are bad about updating the website also.

bandtdeal2
06-06-2012, 02:17 PM
I know I am fishing it and the boat I am fishing is not listed.....

C. Edmund
06-06-2012, 04:57 PM
Holy cow, average size is over 61 foot and smallest are a pair of 48's but both of those are custom, and there's an 80 Merritt so far. The boats get bigger and bigger.

baypro21
06-08-2012, 04:01 AM
Can someone post a link to the VHF feed to listen to the tourney online? I can't find it on the wesite.

outlaw gunner
06-08-2012, 06:13 AM
It will be up when the tournament starts

flying bridge
06-08-2012, 07:43 PM
there are 70 boats in the lady s tournament!
dont think the economy effects this group to much...

llord
06-09-2012, 03:48 AM
I know of 1 team, cash in hand waiting to see the weater forcast..

They should take their cash and get a bigger boat:) You get a 20% discount if you sign up Saturday

SCSaltwater
06-09-2012, 07:13 AM
Live feed is up and it seems to be a hot bite so far

http://www.ebmcdn.net/bigrock/flash/liveplayer/bigrockradio.html

sp8hardwood
06-09-2012, 06:08 PM
We heard hookups all day

baypro21
06-10-2012, 03:57 AM
I was monitoring ch. 72 while fishing Saturday off Topsail. Heard an update or 2, I was surprised at how long the list of catches/hookups was. :thumbsup:

C. Edmund
06-10-2012, 06:41 AM
We heard hookups all day

Yeah, apparently the charter fleet has been hooking up with bills for weeks. The warm winter and very warm March has the billfish in the area early. Some folks who know lots more about this than I ever will are predicting and active BR.

C. Edmund
06-10-2012, 06:42 AM
UPDATE: 116 boats and purse tops million again....
(Oh, and on the subject of boat count. 89 as of this morning. Will they get to the 150-160 range? We'll know in about 8 hours.)

baypro21
06-11-2012, 05:53 AM
Anybody listening to the live feed this morning know what the story is with the lady giving instructions to kids on how to sit. "Alexander lean forward a little" , " Marisa sit back" , "I'm trying to get the shadows off the bow". Why would she be talking to kids on the radio? Does she think she's on the boats PA system?

;?;?

Sniper451
06-11-2012, 06:01 AM
I heard that. That was the strangest thing I ever heard. God, I wish I was there. Just a litlle too much $$$$$ for me though

NCcarguy
06-11-2012, 09:28 AM
I drove through the canal in Morehead and Beaufort this weekend.....I'm fairly certain that the REELS on most of these boats were worth more than my BOAT!!! OK, so exactly how much do some have in these vessels, and gear to make this tournament? You know...in case I win the lottery!

NCcarguy
06-11-2012, 09:29 AM
Anybody listening to the live feed this morning know what the story is with the lady giving instructions to kids on how to sit. "Alexander lean forward a little" , " Marisa sit back" , "I'm trying to get the shadows off the bow". Why would she be talking to kids on the radio? Does she think she's on the boats PA system?

;?;?

Photographer taking pictures from another boat maybe?

C. Edmund
06-11-2012, 09:50 AM
I drove through the canal in Morehead and Beaufort this weekend.....I'm fairly certain that the REELS on most of these boats were worth more than my BOAT!!! OK, so exactly how much do some have in these vessels, and gear to make this tournament? You know...in case I win the lottery!

My ballpark, and I am just ball parking: 50 grand for the week for entrance fees and fuel plus gear and bait and mate. And I would say that fully a third or more of the boats are million dollar plus rigs and some up to 5-6 million - whatever an 80 Merritt goes for these days.

Fuel is a big factor, and last year the winning fish was caught I think 97 miles off shore. Only the big speedy's with no fuel budgetary constraints can do that. So a lot of the cost will depend on where the temperature charts indicate the best fishing will be because fuel is the single biggest factor I think for the big fast boats.

ubettcha13
06-11-2012, 12:56 PM
[quote=C. Edmund;4678314]My ballpark, and I am just ball parking: 50 grand for the week for entrance fees and fuel plus gear and bait and mate. And I would say that fully a third or more of the boats are million dollar plus rigs and some up to 5-6 million - whatever an 80 Merritt goes for these days.

Fuel is a big factor, and last year the winning fish was caught I think 97 miles off shore. Only the big speedy's with no fuel budgetary constraints can do that. So a lot of the cost will depend on where the temperature charts indicate the best fishing will be because fuel is the single biggest factor I think for the big fast boats.[/quote ]
F I would think that the speed to cover the ground or the weather to get to those far off grounds would be a deciding factor. 2500 just to claim you were in is above anyone that would be concerned with fuel costs imho. Looks like the bite is fairly close in after looking at Frying Pan tower. But I have no experience down there beyond the point and that is limited to 3 days of fishing

C. Edmund
06-11-2012, 01:14 PM
Yes, 50 total would be the biggest boats that fish way off shore and buy 4000 gallons for the tournament plus fuel to get to MHC and get home, wherever that is. If I'm not mistaken, some of those boats at Bft take 1900 gallons and fill up 3X during the week, though some of that is for travel to and from the tournament and not in the tournament. That would have still been a fuel bill of well over 20K last summer.

At a point, it's hard to divide some fixed costs and transportation costs from the pure Big Rock costs and where they came from and where they're headed after Big Rock. Sounds like 30K is almost the least you can spend if you spend 18 to enter and fish four full days.

That's on top of all fixed cost, which on a sportie are significant.

SCSaltwater
06-11-2012, 02:43 PM
The "FlyBouy" just weighed their Blue Marlin and it weighs 499.3

ytmorris
06-11-2012, 02:45 PM
.7 pounds from 250k. That sucks, but congrats are still in order for those boys.

baypro21
06-11-2012, 03:00 PM
That fish could end up winning, probably not, but hopefully for them it will stay in the top 3 for some good money.

C. Edmund
06-11-2012, 03:33 PM
That fish could end up winning, probably not, but hopefully for them it will stay in the top 3 for some good money.

If it ends up winning - will it also then collect the quarter mill for the first over 500? (since that would mean no one had a fish over 500#)?

(Yes, I asked this on SF forum too).

baypro21
06-11-2012, 04:12 PM
That money was designated for the "1st" fish over 500#. Since there wouldn't be one then I think the money should stay in the pot and increase the normal payout schedule. Maybe 60% to 1st, 30% to 2nd, and 10% of the $250k to 3rd place.

llord
06-11-2012, 04:21 PM
I believe you jus get your money back. It doesnt roll over to the following year like the "meat fish categories". Like the 90K tuna did

C. Edmund
06-11-2012, 04:41 PM
That money was designated for the "1st" fish over 500#. Since there wouldn't be one then I think the money should stay in the pot and increase the normal payout schedule. Maybe 60% to 1st, 30% to 2nd, and 10% of the $250k to 3rd place.

I would think that it would go somewhere into this year's pot - which of course is based on this year's boat registration fees. Maybe they refund a smidgeon of everyone's registration for that particular category, though that sounds like more trouble than shifting it to other prizes.

UNCFISH
06-12-2012, 05:20 AM
the $5K entry to the Level VI $250k gets returned to all entrants if no 500# fish is brought to the scale. There's no need to speculate what happens, fellas. just read the rules on the website:

8. LEVEL VI $5000. Winner will be the first boat to weigh in a blue marlin weighing 500 lbs. or more. Qualifying fish must meet all Big Rock Rules. Boat must be entered in all categories of the tournament except gamefish. If no qualifying fish is weighed in, 100 % of the entry fee in this category will be returned to the entrant.

C. Edmund
06-12-2012, 06:03 AM
the $5K entry to the Level VI $250k gets returned to all entrants if no 500# fish is brought to the scale. There's no need to speculate what happens, fellas. just read the rules on the website:.

Thanks for clearing that up.

As for the attitude, another idea is that we could have a boat forum where we discuss stuff and have some fun with it instead of everyone linking to rules and such. You know, forums are as much about the chat as they are about the information.

If all the "speculation" bothers you, there's no law saying you have to stop by and be burdened by it. IRS agent? Lawyer? Bureaucrat? Professor?

UNCFISH
06-12-2012, 06:08 AM
Wasn't trying to give you an attitude, just pointing out the obvious. no harm meant. Keep calm and carry on

baypro21
06-12-2012, 07:29 AM
2 boats, Inspiration and Skidmarks, hooked up for a good while now. Should be good ones. :thumbsup:

aftergolf
06-12-2012, 08:23 AM
Inspiration has boated a blue - on the way to the scales - ETA 130 PM

C. Edmund
06-12-2012, 10:23 AM
2 boats, Inspiration and Skidmarks, hooked up for a good while now. Should be good ones. :thumbsup:

Didn't know about Skidmarks. Hoping to be at the docks in few minutes to see Inspiration's fish.

SCSaltwater
06-12-2012, 10:38 AM
Looks like Inspiration isn't signed up for the level 6, which is where the 250k for the first over 500# prize comes from.

SCSaltwater
06-12-2012, 10:49 AM
Inspiration just weighed'er in...437.7#

Shag
06-12-2012, 10:50 AM
hoping to be at the docks in few minutes to see inspiration's fish.

437.7

Edit: Damn you're quick!

baypro21
06-12-2012, 11:17 AM
Didn't know about Skidmarks. Hoping to be at the docks in few minutes to see Inspiration's fish.


Under hookups/releases it says Skidmarks "lost (wrong species)" just before 11am. Must have been a good sized shark??? I'm pretty sure they were hooked up for over 30 minutes. That's tough luck.

wahoo wacker
06-12-2012, 11:31 AM
Under hookups/releases it says Skidmarks "lost (wrong species)" just before 11am. Must have been a good sized shark??? I'm pretty sure they were hooked up for over 30 minutes. That's tough luck.

don't speak till you see the beak, as the saying goes...

more than likely not a shark but a gamefish of some sort.

offshore3144
06-12-2012, 12:41 PM
Weather is really going to play a factor the rest of the week. Gonna get nasty.

Tonight
S to SW winds 15 to 25 kt...highest W. Seas building to 4 to 6 ft. A chance of showers and tstms W.
Wed
W portion...NW winds 15 to 25 kt. Seas 4 to 7 ft. E portion...S to SW winds 15 to 25 kt. Seas 4 to 7 ft. Scattered showers and tstms.
Wed Night
W of 74w...NW winds 15 to 25 kt. Seas 4 to 7 ft. E of 74w...S to SW winds 20 to 30 kt. Seas building to 6 to 9 ft. Showers and tstms E.
Thu
NE winds 15 to 25 kt...except far E se to S 10 to 15 kt. Seas 6 to 10 ft...except far E 5 to 6 ft.
Fri
Winds becoming NE to E 20 to 25 kt throughout. Seas 6 to 10 ft.
Sat
NE winds diminishing to 10 to 20 kt. Seas 5 to 6 ft.

offshore3144
06-12-2012, 12:42 PM
Under hookups/releases it says Skidmarks "lost (wrong species)" just before 11am. Must have been a good sized shark??? I'm pretty sure they were hooked up for over 30 minutes. That's tough luck.

I have never hooked a shark trolling for marlin. Not even a Mako.

bills106
06-12-2012, 01:31 PM
I have hooked a couple mako's trolling dead bait but most of the guys are trolling lures, at least the ones I know are catching the man in the blue suit with regularity around here. Not sure what Skidmarks had on but there were several bigeyes hooked deep yesterday but unfortunately they don't count in the Big Rock tuna category. :bashhh:

Without positive ID on the strike, which is tough on a tuna strike, you can kill a lot of time pumping one up but you don't want to cut it off until you know for sure. Unless it's 2:55 I've never called in a hookup unless I know for sure it has a root but it isn't hard to imagine whatever is ripping line of an 80 or 130 is heading to the weigh station!

baypro21
06-12-2012, 01:55 PM
I have never hooked a shark trolling for marlin. Not even a Mako.


Excuse my ignorance please, what could they have hooked that took over 30 minutes on marlin tackle? That wasn't a marlin?

Just read bills response directly above, big tuna maybe.

offshore3144
06-12-2012, 05:32 PM
Sure they could have hooked a blue and never saw it. They don't all jump and they all don't show before they hit a lure. My guess is a bigeye there have been some very big ones around this year.

bills106
06-12-2012, 05:41 PM
Excuse my ignorance please, what could they have hooked that took over 30 minutes on marlin tackle? That wasn't a marlin?

Just read bills response directly above, big tuna maybe.

Not ignorance at all Baypro! Not many have spent the night offshore here and had the chance to tie into some of the bigeye action that rivals the well known Mid-Atlantic canyon big eye fishery. They usually are up at dawn and dusk with an occasional lunchtime bite. For years we kept seeing huge splashes in the distance when we were way out in the deep and ran to them to find nothing on the top but did see arches down deep. Kind of one of those "duh" moments when we caught the first one, other than bluefin, not many critters out there can rip an 80 wide with such gusto!

During the winter off season I had the chance to work on a couple longliners and we caught so much on or near the eastern wall I just knew I had to explore it further and we built a 61' battlewagon equipped for the deep with serious sonar and the range to do just that. Without letting the proverbial cat out of the bag I will say there are more than big eyes out there, things with real flat bills too :grin: There's a lot more fish holding deep structure offshore here that doesn't show on the charts but with the right equipment (3KW sonar) you may find some interesting possibilities !;cool;

bills106
06-12-2012, 05:44 PM
Sure they could have hooked a blue and never saw it. They don't all jump and they all don't show before they hit a lure. My guess is a bigeye there have been some very big ones around this year.

I've got a good friend on that boat and I will ask him tomorrow if they aren't fishing, maybe can talk about it.

offshore3144
06-12-2012, 06:16 PM
Lots of big critters out there that want to destroy your gear !! :grin: :grin:

Libra
06-12-2012, 06:28 PM
Just walk down the docks after hours and look at the equipment.....most of the rod/reel combos start at around $1k per outfit, and thats ust the beginning. Not a tournament for the po folks.

bills106
06-12-2012, 06:36 PM
Not a tournament for the po folks.

Definitely not and for the wannabe-rich, it can make you po real fast too!

Libra
06-12-2012, 07:26 PM
So true. Have fished too many where the anglers wanted to know how much they could make, given first place. When I gave them the odds, plus discouraged them, all turned out fine.

cfarmd
06-12-2012, 07:42 PM
Not ignorance at all Baypro! Not many have spent the night offshore here and had the chance to tie into some of the bigeye action that rivals the well known Mid-Atlantic canyon big eye fishery. They usually are up at dawn and dusk with an occasional lunchtime bite. For years we kept seeing huge splashes in the distance when we were way out in the deep and ran to them to find nothing on the top but did see arches down deep. Kind of one of those "duh" moments when we caught the first one, other than bluefin, not many critters out there can rip an 80 wide with such gusto!

During the winter off season I had the chance to work on a couple longliners and we caught so much on or near the eastern wall I just knew I had to explore it further and we built a 61' battlewagon equipped for the deep with serious sonar and the range to do just that. Without letting the proverbial cat out of the bag I will say there are more than big eyes out there, things with real flat bills too :grin: There's a lot more fish holding deep structure offshore here that doesn't show on the charts but with the right equipment (3KW sonar) you may find some interesting possibilities !;cool;

I'd like to buy you a beer or two and talk sometime...sounds like you have some good stories to share :thumbsup:

bills106
06-13-2012, 05:11 AM
I'd like to buy you a beer or two and talk sometime...sounds like you have some good stories to share :thumbsup:

How'd you know I drink beer? :grin::grin::grin:

I was going to be at the M&G in Seagate but had already been volunteered to cook a pig that weekend, hopefully next one I will know ahead of time to pencil it in. My shop is a mile away in the Jarrett Bay park, Lightning Yachts. Next time your down stop in, I've got some in the fridge! :thumbsup:
Bill

ADAM87
06-13-2012, 06:45 AM
Anybody know what the military traffic is about today?

aftergolf
06-13-2012, 07:02 AM
My guess is they are conducting exercises, as they do quite a bit, and broadcast on this same channel most of the time.

C. Edmund
06-13-2012, 07:20 AM
Weather is really going to play a factor the rest of the week. Gonna get nasty.

Tonight
S to SW winds 15 to 25 kt...highest W. Seas building to 4 to 6 ft. A chance of showers and tstms W.
Wed
W portion...NW winds 15 to 25 kt. Seas 4 to 7 ft. E portion...S to SW winds 15 to 25 kt. Seas 4 to 7 ft. Scattered showers and tstms.
Wed Night
W of 74w...NW winds 15 to 25 kt. Seas 4 to 7 ft. E of 74w...S to SW winds 20 to 30 kt. Seas building to 6 to 9 ft. Showers and tstms E.
Thu
NE winds 15 to 25 kt...except far E se to S 10 to 15 kt. Seas 6 to 10 ft...except far E 5 to 6 ft.
Fri
Winds becoming NE to E 20 to 25 kt throughout. Seas 6 to 10 ft.
Sat
NE winds diminishing to 10 to 20 kt. Seas 5 to 6 ft.

Good time to be the leader in the clubhouse -- even if relatively small fish for the BR.

jkapl001
06-13-2012, 01:24 PM
The BR website shows that the Ashley Lauren hooked up at 2:43, it doesn't show a release or a break off, I am assuming it just never got posted, they aren't still hooked up are they?

offshore3144
06-13-2012, 01:27 PM
The BR website shows that the Ashley Lauren hooked up at 2:43, it doesn't show a release or a break off, I am assuming it just never got posted, they aren't still hooked up are they?

They released a blue per the audio. :thumbsup:

jkapl001
06-13-2012, 01:38 PM
ah missed it. That's what I figured. I have had the audio on all week, lets just say my office neighbor will be glad the tourney will be over this week...

NCcarguy
06-13-2012, 02:08 PM
I'm really excited about this tournament this year for some reason.....I think it's going on the bucket list of things I want to do!!! I can't see the 21'-6" Sea Fox making the cut though, I think I need a bigger boat!

C. Edmund
06-13-2012, 05:44 PM
On calendar, we're at half way point of Big Rock. However, in reality, the tournament is over 2/3 fished out. Only 150 "boat days" are left, meaning 330 "boat days" have been fished. (120 boats can fish 4 days each = 480 total boat days). That day one fish is looking pretty decent.

llord
06-13-2012, 09:42 PM
Speaking of calendars...How bout the Mayan Calendar.....Its almost over

baypro21
06-14-2012, 04:44 AM
5' going to 8' this afternoon - 11' seas tomorrow

Somebody mentioned the leader in the clubhouse, he looks to be sitting pretty.

Can somebody comment on what it's like for 50+'er sportfishes to fish these conditions? Is it like me fishing 5'ers? Bumpy but not a huge deal?

wahoo wacker
06-14-2012, 05:01 AM
i can tell you its no fun on a 45....

C. Edmund
06-14-2012, 05:08 AM
5' going to 8' this afternoon - 11' seas tomorrow

Somebody mentioned the leader in the clubhouse, he looks to be sitting pretty.


Yes, indeed, if your forecast is correct.

2 boats eligible to fish Thur Fri and Sat

26 boats eligible to fish 2 of those 3 days

92 boats with just a single day left of eligibility - and most of those might fish today given the forecast.

ALB
06-14-2012, 05:28 AM
I think most of the boats will fish today because of weather forecast and the 1st 500lb fish hasnt been caught yet.

The new 500lbr category has pushed a lot of the boats to fish early to get that big fish cause its and automatic 250k. Its been a new level for a couple years now and someone has caught a 500lbr every year since its inception and most of the boats have fished out if the fish hasnt been caught by Wednesday.

Its a catch 22 imho... But I have no room to talk as I wasnt able to fish it this year.

Good luck to em though!!!

bills106
06-14-2012, 05:37 AM
5' going to 8' this afternoon - 11' seas tomorrow

Somebody mentioned the leader in the clubhouse, he looks to be sitting pretty.

Can somebody comment on what it's like for 50+'er sportfishes to fish these conditions? Is it like me fishing 5'ers? Bumpy but not a huge deal?

The wave height alone doesn't say too much, as you know it's how close they are together that matters most. NE winds are the worst possible direction when offshore fishing and strangely we are the only area on the coast that thinks so. Up in the mid-Atlantic they love a NE wind but it's not as rough as their prevailing current, albeit not strong, is NE as well. Down in south Florida they fish the edge and don't run far so it isn't bad for them either.

Here, it is against th stream and while you can "put it on the side and ride" and make the trip out and back ok, once you hit the stream they stand up really tall and close together. A lot of times we troll upcurrent just inshore of the edge (and it's usually very noticable!) and then cross over and roll downsea in the hot water. Fishing it isn't undoable in a 50 or 60' but when it gets that rough it's the difficulty of actually landing a big fish when one minute you've got a wave breaking over the transom and the next you're ten feet higher. Landing a big fish only happens when everything comes together perfectly and there's so much that can go wrong when it's rough. Some guys will run inside and pop out at Hatteras and troll downsea all day back to Morehead.

offshore3144
06-14-2012, 05:54 AM
Just heard one of the boats on the radio. 20+ knots out of the N offshore today!! Its going to be a interesting day.

aftergolf
06-14-2012, 05:54 AM
They said on the radio it is blowing 25 at the stream this morning, Rut Roh George, going to be a tough day at the stream!!!

offshore3144
06-14-2012, 06:17 AM
They said on the radio it is blowing 25 at the stream this morning, Rut Roh George, going to be a tough day at the stream!!!
Ed Especially out of the North. Supposed to crank up close to 30 today....:o

aftergolf
06-14-2012, 06:25 AM
Yep, going to make the stream stand straight up and closely spaced. Boats are not going to want to troll south very much, but maybe try to troll back and forth inshore-offshore in the trough if there is enough spacing. Unless you are in at least 50 feet of fiberglass it is going to be a very long day.
I can't imagine how hard it will be to back down on a fish if you are backing down into the sea. Wow!!

aftergolf
06-14-2012, 06:27 AM
I have one other question. How do you have lines in at 9 AM and have a white marlin release at 9:05 AM?

cfarmd
06-14-2012, 06:32 AM
I have one other question. How do you have lines in at 9 AM and have a white marlin release at 9:05 AM?

interesting, I assume all these guys have their spread set in the outriggers and at 9am sharp they just have to drop the baits back. 5 mins is a very fast landing however...

bills106
06-14-2012, 06:43 AM
Definitely have the area scoped out and everything hanging, at 9 it's drop city and by 9:01 you're set. 5 minutes isn't long on a whitey especially if he commited Hari Kari and ate a mackeral on an 80 or 130 like they often do, you can plane him in cranking hard and he probably wouldn't even pull drag!

offshore3144
06-14-2012, 06:46 AM
5 minutes isn't long on a whitey especially if he commited Hari Kari and ate a mackeral on an 80 or 130 like they often do, you can plane him in cranking hard and he probably wouldn't even pull drag! Thats the truth !!

challenger215
06-14-2012, 06:58 AM
Like bills106 said, everything is hanging from the riggers before 9:00. It takes about a minute to set your spread. It takes longer to get your shotgun where you want it than anything. If any billfish other than a blue hits a lure you just crank as fast as you can while the boat backs down. It can be released a lot quicker than you can imagine. By being released, that means you touch the leader and that is all. That was the SEA HAG with the first release of the day. Capt. Alan willis. He mated on the Frequent Flyer for years and then became the captain. The boat was sold and then he became captain of the SEA HAG which is docked in Frequent Flyers old spot on the Morehead Waterfront. He's as nice of a guy as you will ever meet. Good luck to all of the Big Rock participants. Its going to be tough fishin from here on out but it can still definitly be done!

CarolinaKings
06-14-2012, 06:59 AM
Yep, going to make the stream stand straight up and closely spaced. Boats are not going to want to troll south very much, but maybe try to troll back and forth inshore-offshore in the trough if there is enough spacing. Unless you are in at least 50 feet of fiberglass it is going to be a very long day.
I can't imagine how hard it will be to back down on a fish if you are backing down into the sea. Wow!!

I caught a blue in Hawaii on a 43 Bertram in 10+ seas. Take my word for it, backing down on a big fish in those sea conditions is no picnic! I wasn't sure if we were going to flood, flip or both. Had a very experienced crew and captain just kept yelling to keep cranking! I'm not sure I really realized how bad it was until I saw the video later that night. However, I'd do it again tomorrow if I had the chance!

C. Edmund
06-14-2012, 12:15 PM
After a hot start, looks like this tournament is going to sort of limp to the finish. Very few boats with fishing days left after today.

aftergolf
06-14-2012, 12:27 PM
Tough day on the big pond.

NCcarguy
06-14-2012, 12:42 PM
wow...I'm thinking the very first fish is more than likely in the money! and now it's starting to look like could be a winner. The boats that have days left are certainly going to EARN it!

baypro21
06-15-2012, 03:51 AM
Crappy forecast:

HATTERAS CANYON TO CAPE FEAR OUT TO 34N 71W TO 32N 73W
500 AM EDT FRI JUN 15 2012

GALE WARNING


TODAY
NE WINDS 25 TO 35 KT...EXCEPT FAR E PART 15 TO 25 KT.
SEAS 6 TO 13 FT. ISOLATED SHOWERS AND TSTMS MAINLY SE.

TONIGHT
NE WINDS 20 TO 30 KT...DIMINISHING TO 15 TO 25 KT.
SEAS SUBSIDING TO 6 TO 9 FT.

SAT
NE WINDS 20 TO 25 KT. SEAS 5 TO 8 FT.

CarolinaKings
06-15-2012, 05:51 AM
I bet the guys on Flybouy never figured that a day 1 <500 lb fish would hold up for the win, but it's looking pretty good right now!

nccoaster
06-15-2012, 06:05 AM
http://www.thehulltruth.com/members/nccoaster-albums-ncoaster-picture59832-526849-416790121698602-1891209954-n.jpg

Yesterday.

NCcarguy
06-15-2012, 06:06 AM
If I had two days left....and a big enough boat, I would be fishing my butt off right now! The first over 500lb fish could be worth almost 700k!!! That's a lot of chum for one fish!

aftergolf
06-15-2012, 06:19 AM
Wow and it is much worse today than the above picture.
Thanks, but I don't care how much $$ was on the table I would not be out today with gale warnings up.

C. Edmund
06-15-2012, 06:27 AM
I bet the guys on Flybouy never figured that a day 1 <500 lb fish would hold up for the win, but it's looking pretty good right now!

With all the action on day one, they were probably thinking they'd be lucky to stay in the top 3 prize money. Now it would take a fluke of nature for them not to win. Few boats fishing and almost impossible conditions in which to back down a big marlin if you hooked one up.

NCcarguy
06-15-2012, 06:30 AM
Wow and it is much worse today than the above picture.
Thanks, but I don't care how much $$ was on the table I would not be out today with gale warnings up.

lol...yea, I would probably have to stay home too. Can you even land a big marlin in these conditions? My guess is you'll see more "Lost" than normal.

C. Edmund
06-15-2012, 06:38 AM
[QUOTE=NCcarguy;4689431 Can you even land a big marlin in these conditions? My guess is you'll see more "Lost" than normal.[/QUOTE]

I don't know how you could land one in these conditions unless it died during the fight - and even then it would be tough.

challenger215
06-15-2012, 07:06 AM
I saw some videos from the Piracy and Double 07 this morning. It was rough as chit yesterday and probably worse today. It will be tough to land a fish today but if it can be done this crowd of battlewagons do have crews capable of it. The biggest problem I think is going to get one to bite!

aftergolf
06-15-2012, 07:09 AM
The bite sux on a NE wind, blows the hook out of their mouths....

C. Edmund
06-15-2012, 07:16 AM
Just saw Double B (last year's winner) and Callie Girl heading up the ICW back home. This is definitely a BR that started hot and is limping to the finish line.

CaptGorges
06-15-2012, 07:28 AM
A wee bit sporty yesterday, probably worse today...

NCcarguy
06-15-2012, 07:30 AM
Just saw Double B (last year's winner) and Callie Girl heading up the ICW back home. This is definitely a BR that started hot and is limping to the finish line.

Have they used up thier fishing days? Or it's so rough today, and forcast to be tomorrow that they're throwing in the towel?

thubert57
06-15-2012, 07:40 AM
Have they used up thier fishing days? Or it's so rough today, and forcast to be tomorrow that they're throwing in the towel?

They would be crazy to throw in the towel on a forcast. Wait out one more day, there is always a chance the weather guessers won't get it right.

nccoaster
06-15-2012, 07:46 AM
According to the tournament site, both boats have taken only one lay day (today)

Just Not Right
06-15-2012, 07:48 AM
"there is always a chance the weather guessers won't get it right"

What? Thats crazy talk.... They NEVER get it wrong around here....

challenger215
06-15-2012, 08:04 AM
They might be heading up to Hatteras. It would probably be better to fish out of there tomorrow with a following sea.

delmo777
06-15-2012, 08:55 AM
challenger215, where did you see the videos for double 07 and piracy?

challenger215
06-15-2012, 08:57 AM
Facebook. I am friends with Double 07s captain and the wife of one of Piracys owners.

ADAM87
06-15-2012, 09:43 AM
Just saw Double B (last year's winner) and Callie Girl heading up the ICW back home. This is definitely a BR that started hot and is limping to the finish line.

I believe Harry (Double B) has fished all his days...

ALB
06-15-2012, 09:46 AM
Buddy of mine fished on the Piracy and he said it was like a pressure washer every time he went to check the baits. He said they were fished out.

Only two boats fishing today... 15 were eligible today and 63 for tomorrow... Gonna come down to the wire tomorrow!!!

Wish I was fishing!!!

C. Edmund
06-15-2012, 09:46 AM
According to the tournament site, both boats have taken only one lay day (today)

Then they probably are heading to Hatteras to fish tomorrow from that. I saw Bi Op Sea heading the same way a little later.

bills106
06-15-2012, 10:14 AM
Either planning on fishing downsea all day tomorrow or going up early for the Marlin Club tournament next week.

C. Edmund
06-15-2012, 11:01 AM
Buddy of mine fished on the Piracy and he said it was like a pressure washer every time he went to check the baits. He said they were fished out.

Only two boats fishing today... 15 were eligible today and 63 for tomorrow... Gonna come down to the wire tomorrow!!!

Wish I was fishing!!!

What kind of seas are they expecting tomorrow?

Helen318
06-15-2012, 11:11 AM
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Yes, they normally wait. In fact, they don't even start taking entries until pretty late. I always wonder with a bad economy whether participation will be down - but the short answer is yes, it's always a last minute thing.http://www.afyo.info/ht1.jpghttp://www.afyo.info/jh88.jpghttp://www.afyo.info/dh3.jpg

delmo777
06-15-2012, 12:36 PM
Challenger215, can you post a link to the video, would love to see some live action in those seas.

challenger215
06-15-2012, 07:58 PM
I'm not sure how to. Its on my facebook.

Warlock
06-15-2012, 08:54 PM
but maybe it was the President visiting again with hat in hand.



Anybody know what the military traffic is about today?

baypro21
06-16-2012, 04:04 AM
Hatteras canyon to cape fear out to 34n 71w to 32n 73w
500 am edt sat jun 16 2012


today
ne winds 15 to 25 kt becoming 15 to 20 kt. Seas 8 to 10
ft becoming 7 to 9 ft.

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 06:42 AM
WOW, 2 blue's boated before 9:30! Maybe this Big Rock won't be limping to the finish line after all!

sea_major
06-16-2012, 09:02 AM
Fishing-NC.com posted this pic on Facebook. It'll give you an idea of the conditions out there.

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i465/isaac_bruton/JobsiteatBigRockTourney.jpg

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 09:13 AM
Just weighed a fish at 364 - another blue boated but that team will fish til 2 and then bring it in.

outlaw gunner
06-16-2012, 09:18 AM
that fish was dq

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 09:22 AM
that fish was dq

Or, as the emcee sort of described it, never "q" in the first place.

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 01:48 PM
Final fish 362.3 - so the 499 from Monday wins - having to sweat out two weigh ins today.

baypro21
06-16-2012, 02:46 PM
Or, as the emcee sort of described it, never "q" in the first place.


Just got in, what happened?

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 02:50 PM
Just got in, what happened?

2 fish weighed today, both under 400. The last one just a few minutes ago.
Flybouy and Inspiration hold on to first and second place respectively.

outlaw gunner
06-16-2012, 02:50 PM
both fish didnt make the 400lb or 110 in limit the big rock has in the tournament

Doghouse54c
06-16-2012, 02:57 PM
CONGRATULATIONS!!! Capt. Robert and Todd held out all week with a 499.3# Blue caught Monday.
Pretty work, beau!

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 04:07 PM
both fish didnt make the 400lb or 110 in limit the big rock has in the tournament

uh, yeah, we get that.

outlaw gunner
06-16-2012, 04:44 PM
shut up cocksucker

llord
06-16-2012, 04:57 PM
Amazing how you hear people talk about the size of fish. I consider a 400lb Marlin "big" not huge but big. Most average prolly 300ish around here. The average person always seems to catch 500lbrs throughout the year...Kinda like 5 lb trout everybody catches.
I definately do not fault either team for weighing in a small fish,I'm sure they knew it was prolly small but a 400lbr was worth alot. On day 1 neither of these 2 fish die.
C. Edmund please excuse Outlaw Gunner for pointing out the rules.....ALOT of people on here do not understand or know them..........:)

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 05:31 PM
Amazing how you hear people talk about the size of fish. I consider a 400lb Marlin "big" not huge but big. Most average prolly 300ish around here. The average person always seems to catch 500lbrs throughout the year...Kinda like 5 lb trout everybody catches.
I definately do not fault either team for weighing in a small fish,I'm sure they knew it was prolly small but a 400lbr was worth alot. On day 1 neither of these 2 fish die.
C. Edmund please excuse Outlaw Gunner for pointing out the rules.....ALOT of people on here do not understand or know them..........:)

I would not fault either team either, not with third place wide open and the 500 pound prize wide open. These fish, in the middle of a rough water fight with the boat bobbing up and down - making everything more difficult - all look similar. They may not get harvested on day 1 - but today I think the boats made the call they had to make.

As for the "rules" - true, fish under 400 pounds are officially DQ - which is kind of redundant because these fish would not win anyway - official DQ or not. Thus I thought one post was sufficient for that.

outlaw gunner
06-16-2012, 05:35 PM
Well C.Edmund if you would go back and look i post right at the sametime you did, but you feel like youneed to call me and out.

this is from the website To be eligible for prize money the Blue Marlin must weigh at least four hundred pounds OR measure at least one hundred and ten inches.

so the fish doesnt HAVE to weigh 400lbs so the rules i stated were correct and yours were wrong

llord
06-16-2012, 05:39 PM
Yes...if its a 110 inches and weighs 10lbs its a 3rd place fish...It would be skinny however

outlaw gunner
06-16-2012, 05:40 PM
Yes...if its a 110 inches and weighs 10lbs its a 3rd place fish...It would be skinny however

and your just trying to be a damn smartass

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 05:59 PM
Well C.Edmund if you would go back and look i post right at the sametime you did, but you feel like youneed to call me and out.

this is from the website To be eligible for prize money the Blue Marlin must weigh at least four hundred pounds OR measure at least one hundred and ten inches.

so the fish doesnt HAVE to weigh 400lbs so the rules i stated were correct and yours were wrong

No gunner, you're so friggin obsessed with RULES RULES RULES RULES - that' why I was calling you out. I think that's a sad way to go thru life frankly and I was tweaking you with that the way I tweak someone whose life revolves around the DMV or something sad like that.

Yes, 400 pounds OR 110 inches - I get it. But the 362 pound fish didn't "not win money" because of the RULES - it did not win money cuz it wasn't BIG ENOUGH. Now the 364 pounder did not win due to the rules and thus the 499 and the 437 split third place money. But again, I am more interested in the fish than the rules!!! Go read your rule book again.

outlaw gunner
06-16-2012, 06:11 PM
your about freakin bass akwards i could give 2 shits about the rules bc they didnt apply to me but someone asked why the fish didnt qualify. You just ass hat who thinks your cool for sounding like a smart ass, so just take your opinion and shove it up your ass

llord
06-16-2012, 06:16 PM
and your just trying to be a damn smartass

Not to you. Edmund refuses to let arguements go no matter how wrong or his total lack of understanding of the rules. I still think he would award the $ to the boat without a fishing license or divy up the Culcutta $ because a 500lbr wasnt weighed in

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 06:17 PM
your about freakin bass akwards i could give 2 shits about the rules bc they didnt apply to me but someone asked why the fish didnt qualify. You just ass hat who thinks your cool for sounding like a smart ass, so just take your opinion and shove it up your ass

No one asked about the DQ - a very experienced poster simply wanted to know what had happened today.

You just couldn't wait to go cut and paste from the rule book on the website. On the upside, it was the only proper use of english in your entire post.

outlaw gunner
06-16-2012, 06:18 PM
Not to you. Edmund refuses to let arguements go no matter how wrong or his total lack of understanding of the rules. I still think he would award the $ to the boat without a fishing license or divy up the Culcutta $ because a 500lbr wasnt weighed in


ok well i apologize for calling you a smart ass, my bad. and yes like you said he is a ass hat

outlaw gunner
06-16-2012, 06:19 PM
No one asked about the DQ - a very experienced poster simply wanted to know what had happened today.

You just couldn't wait to go cut and paste from the rule book on the website. On the upside, it was the only proper use of english in your entire post.

holy shit you are a sad little man i dont care about the damn rules i just inferred from his post that he wanted to know why the fish was dqed, but you continue to be a douche

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 06:20 PM
Not to you. Edmund refuses to let arguements go no matter how wrong or his total lack of understanding of the rules. I still think he would award the $ to the boat without a fishing license or divy up the Culcutta $ because a 500lbr wasnt weighed in

Your memory is no better than your reading comp.

llord
06-16-2012, 06:27 PM
Your memory is no better than your reading comp.

You prove my point with every reply. I've never seen anybody so often wrong and just won't let it go. Have a good nite/life buddy

C. Edmund
06-16-2012, 06:29 PM
You prove my point with every reply. I've never seen anybody so often wrong and just won't let it go. Have a good nite/life buddy

you let me know when those checks have been cashed.....

llord
06-16-2012, 06:30 PM
ok well i apologize for calling you a smart ass, my bad. and yes like you said he is a ass hat

No worries. But remember when posting around Edmund to use...an before asshat...not a asshat..its an asshat..He understands proper English better:thumbsup:

outlaw gunner
06-16-2012, 06:42 PM
No worries. But remember when posting around Edmund to use...an before asshat...not a asshat..its an asshat..He understands proper English better:thumbsup:

:thumbsup: i will remember that, could it be that Asshat edmunds is the mate from a few years ago

bluewaterseeker
06-17-2012, 08:18 AM
Fishing-NC.com posted this pic on Facebook. It'll give you an idea of the conditions out there.

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i465/isaac_bruton/JobsiteatBigRockTourney.jpg

Holy shit! :o

NCcarguy
06-18-2012, 06:24 AM
Holy shit! :o

no kidding!! That photo stressed me out a bit...lol

C. Edmund
06-18-2012, 07:09 AM
No worries. But remember when posting around Edmund to use...an before asshat...not a asshat..its an asshat..He understands proper English better:thumbsup:

Oh I understand both. I am capable of using both too. That's the difference.

cfarmd
06-18-2012, 09:49 AM
Oh I understand both. I am capable of using both too. That's the difference.

Us country boys don't know how to spell or write you musta gone to state

marlin1usa
06-20-2012, 02:05 PM
Peoples whom sits around and criticized others for kicks- and this dude is of them - for something such like there grammar, like, uh, suck.

in most cases such them peoples suffers from poor self-esteem or narcissium, or both. (Expect them to offer proof of don't!)

Too - C. Edmund if you are such an expert on the english language and want to correct everyone and anyone who isn't, YOU'RD be a great professor!

YOUR A PROFESSOR!

bills106
06-20-2012, 03:37 PM
Wow, OK, who turned over that rock and let him loose??? ;?

Some people start drinking WAY too early in the day!

BTW, class of '83 NCSU, and I knows how to use spellchick :grin:



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