SportFishing and Charters Forum - Ask NOAA about Snapper Regulations
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allroundfisherman07
04-25-2012, 03:46 PM
If you could ask NOAA one question regarding reef fish regulations and why they have made the certain decisions they have made, what would you ask?
Please, serious questions only. Thanks!
sandman12
04-25-2012, 03:53 PM
I would ask them to explain how their research is conducted...
Miss Trial
04-25-2012, 05:28 PM
Do you believe your fish stock research methodology accurately reflects fish stocks in our waters?
If yes > then why are you attempting to find a better model?
If no > then why are you limiting fishermen's right to catch fish under what you admit is a bad research model?
jimsea
04-25-2012, 05:51 PM
How can you engage in rule making for recreational fisherman when you have yet to set up a system for measuring what they take?
A Few Dollars
04-25-2012, 05:54 PM
I would ask them to explain how their research is conducted...:thumbsup: Regarding recreational quotas.
How can you make rules regarding recreational fisherman when you have yet to set up a system for measuring what they take?:thumbsup:
Paul Barnard
04-26-2012, 05:36 AM
If you could ask NOAA one question regarding reef fish regulations and why they have made the certain decisions they have made, what would you ask?
Please, serious questions only. Thanks!
Let me ask you a question. What's your agenda? You joined the site to post this question in 2 different places.
Sea Snake
04-26-2012, 06:02 AM
I would ask them ....and in all seriousness...just what does the inside of your butt hole look like, since your head is stuck up there....
offshore3144
04-26-2012, 06:03 AM
If I could ask questions of NOAA they would be. What the hell are they thinking about!! How can one man Roy Crabtree keep Regulatory Amendment 11 from the Sec. of Commerce since August?
Paul Barnard
04-26-2012, 08:40 AM
I'll back-up a little and assume you are here for a legitimate purpose and that anything you discuss with NOAA will make a difference.
I would start with identifying what I consider to be the basis of their flawed harvest data. They don't have any way of knowing how many people fish for reef fish, and ALL OF THE OTHER HARVEST DATA IS dependent on that.
So ask NOAA how they estimate the number of people that participate in the fishery. If it's based on saltwater license sales, then that is HORRIBLY inaccurate. The vast majority of saltwater license holders never venture into federal waters.
When they start with an erroneous assumption on the number of participants, then the estimate as to how many trips are made and what is harvested on those trips is also errant.
They need to get a grip on the number of participants.
Squid Row
04-26-2012, 12:14 PM
I would ask them:
What has caused more damage to fishermen, the combination of Hurricane Katrina plus the BP Oil Spill or the combination of Jane Lubchenko and Roy Crabtree?
superiortackle
04-26-2012, 02:19 PM
I would ask them:
What has caused more damage to fishermen, the combination of Hurricane Katrina plus the BP Oil Spill or the combination of Jane Lubchenko and Roy Crabtree?
Katrina improved saltwater fishing. The saltwater fish thrive after a hurricaine. The BP spill was a terrible loss of lives. But the majority of harm was done by the media . Not the oil. Oil leaks out of the sea floor daily and has since long before man showed up on Earth. Cool logo by the way. How about this question, which group is the largest danger to these fish? Commercial fishermen, recreational fishermen, or Shrimp Trawls(shrimp nets killing juvenille reef fish.)?
Fourchondellete
04-26-2012, 05:54 PM
Let me ask you a question. What's your agenda? You joined the site to post this question in 2 different places.
The OP's agenda is spot on, He is asking this question for someone very well know in the Louisiana fishing industry that wants to remain anonymous
bradmd
04-26-2012, 06:02 PM
How many times did you have to practice to get your head up your arse that far?
Paul Barnard
04-27-2012, 04:16 AM
The OP's agenda is spot on, He is asking this question for someone very well know in the Louisiana fishing industry that wants to remain anonymous
I learned that yesterday, that's why I went back and gave a serious answer.
offshore3144
04-27-2012, 05:15 AM
Here is the problem. They don't listen they are not serious. Ask them why they never take public comment into consideration. They have their own agenda just like the SAFMC and are just going through the motions because they have too. If you are going to ask a question. Ask them when they are going to actually take the public comments serious. This is just a dog and pony show guys.
BIGnUGLY
04-27-2012, 06:55 AM
How they can justify the commercials fishing when we aren't. Why the commercials can keep smaller fish in the name of reduced mortality when the recs can't. If the recs have reduced mortality rates because of fishing tactics, make the comms use the same tactics. If a species is under stress, stop the commercial take first. It has worked with every species and it really yanks my chain to watch them unload fish I can't catch.
cgrand
04-27-2012, 07:08 AM
The OP's agenda is spot on, He is asking this question for someone very well know in the Louisiana fishing industry that wants to remain anonymous
if this very well known someone is in the LA fishing industry than he/she already knows what questions everyone has. sorry if this comes across the wrong way but i for one am sick and tired of being told what can and cannot be done, and what is and what is not happening with this fishery, without any evidence to support those decisions, and most often in complete contrast to the evidence that we and everyone else on the water have offered
they (NOAA/NFMS/etc) are willfully stealing a public resource from the very people who pay to support and enjoy it, are being led around by the nose by well-funded anti-fishing organizations, and have the temerity to proclaim that their actions are being dictated by "science"
this is bullshit of the highest order, and all that is being accomplished is making outlaws out of law-abiding citizens
SEATOAD
04-27-2012, 11:16 AM
If you could ask NOAA one question regarding reef fish regulations and why they have made the certain decisions they have made, what would you ask?
Please, serious questions only. Thanks!
Seriously - and directly to the point.
I would ask what the purposed timeline is to shut down recreational reef fishing and ask for a list of the next species to be targeted.
Its glaringly apparent to anyone who fishes that the "research" is fatally flawed and also glaringly apparent that they don't want to know they are wrong. Since they admittedly have bad research and won't listen to any evidence presented to the contrary, one has to assume that the actions taken are based on a predetermined path.
I just need to know when I should start selling my rods and reels. Thanks.