Trucks & Trailers - Torsion axle spindle removal/replacement???

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frugal boater
04-23-2012, 10:07 AM
Any 'tricks' on removing spindles from a torsion axle arm? Been soaking the castle nuts with the PB, but the torsion action likes to work against removal. Next step is go to the 'heat wrench', but concerned that the arms are connected/mounted to some rubber that might not like too much heat. Other than grinding the castles off, any other ideas from those who have been here.....???? Are the spindles a press fit in the mounting arm? If they are this bad will it be another fight to get them out once the castle nuts are gone? Better to bite the bullet and get new axle assemblies?


DoubleO7
04-23-2012, 11:54 AM
All depends on what brand of torsion axles you have.
Some arms all welded at torsion shaft and at the spindle.
Some arms are clamped onto a splined torsion shaft but the spindle is welded to the arm.
Some arms are welded to torsion shaft and the spindle has a tapper fit into the arm with a big nut.
Sounds like you have the last style.
You need to stablize the arm with blocking or chain to stop the torsion action.
Then use a six point socket on a breaker bar with a cheater pipe on the BB.
Get it loose, run it out flush with the thread end.
Might PB it some more to get into the tapper.
If I had a "sacrificial" nut laying around, I would put that on the threads instead of the castle nut (flush).
Then get out the 3lb hammer and squarely hit the end of the tappered shaft.
You only have to move it a micro hair before it will release from the tapper.

Or if you have a two jaw puller you can use that instead.
PB it, put the puller on, torque it good and if it does not let go, leave it torqued overnight.

fishinmaniac
04-23-2012, 04:57 PM
No access to an impact wrench?


frugal boater
04-24-2012, 04:59 AM
It's a 2003 LoadRite 5400# tandem. Replacement spindle pictures look like a press fit in the arms. Not enough exposed threads to get another nut on. Castle nuts in bad shape as both the 'flats' & 'flanges' are corroded. Only way to get grip is with pipe wrench. No impact wrench in shop. Continuing with a PB soak and maybe some light heat from a handheld BernzoMatic propane bottle. Then onto a grinder to remove the nuts.
Anyone know where to get new axle assemblies reasonably......?

Back-in-Black
04-24-2012, 07:25 AM
Anyone know where to get new axle assemblies reasonably......?

Check out the last page of this thread. http://www.thehulltruth.com/trucks-trailers/419421-replace-axles-leaf-springs-torsion-axles.html
A THT sponsor selling 3500# torsion axles with removable spindles for ~$300.

Also, it you don't have an impact wrench you may want to check out the electric ones. I bought one at Lowes a few years ago and it has been a life saver just having it around the house. The one I bought was a Cobalt brand and came in a case with a complete set of Standard (not metric) impact sockets for about $50 or so.

I have lots of air tools that I used ~ 30 years ago as an auto mech. Just don't have the compressor to run them right now (new house and no shop yet). The electric impact wrench suprised me at how well it works. Not quite as good as my old Ingersol Rand, but good enough around the house for sure.

bluewaterpirate
04-24-2012, 07:40 AM
I replaced two axles on my 2002 Loadrite in 2008. I used these folks aqnd they were supper to deal with.

http://www.trailerpartsdepot.com/items.asp?Cc=AX%2DT%2DLRA&parts=Torsion+Axles+Galvanized+With+Hubs&iTpStatus=0&Tp=&Bc=

It was easier just to replace the entire axle(s). I did it with the boat on the trailer ... to say the least it was a learning experience.

Some video for your viewing pleasure.

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/2205123_2411271

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/2205123_2377420

Old axles ... my fault for not taking care if them!

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/2205123_2411272

EASTERNMARINE
04-24-2012, 07:50 AM
We should have them, give us a call.


1.800.453.7379

bluewaterpirate
04-24-2012, 08:08 AM
Easten Marine are great folks to deal with. You can't go wrong with either!

frugal boater
04-24-2012, 09:57 AM
Back-in-Black: Same situation here. Not enough air to run big tools, only nail guns. Will check out the electrics.

BWP/Tom: Great video. My axles look about the same as yours. Thinking best to replace both and be done with it all. Looks like sparks will be flying here also.


All: Thanx for the replies...owe 'ya's one.

bluewaterpirate
04-24-2012, 10:15 AM
Furgel .... wise decision. I CRC'd the hell of the new ones after I finished the install. It's paid long term dividends in the preservation of the new axles and accociated hardware. Here are some picture post install. Since installing the new axles I've logged over 200 + immeersions in saltwater.

Right after install ..... you can see the liberal use of CRC in these pictures ....

http://cdn-2-service.phanfare.com/images/4892322_2205123_35576275_WebLarge_3/Image-4892322-35576275-3-WebLarge_0_669f185e6622a342403a8924fbd21c5f_1

http://cdn-2-service.phanfare.com/images/4892322_2205123_35576344_WebLarge_3/Image-4892322-35576344-3-WebLarge_0_b503d5dd1902491e1421df7264dfe339_1

14 months later

http://cdn-2-service.phanfare.com/images/4892322_2205123_50862768_WebLarge_3/Image-4892322-50862768-3-WebLarge_0_b344d96dfce79ebb3219890de5ee5b0b_1

http://cdn-2-service.phanfare.com/images/4892322_2205123_50862769_WebLarge_3/Image-4892322-50862769-3-WebLarge_0_6890e10b387b9b660031cf6a9295b1da_1


4 years later

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv129/bluewaterpirate/Kumho%20Tires/IMG_3164.jpg?t=1298224343

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv129/bluewaterpirate/LoadRite%20Trailer/12.jpg?t=1311800227

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv129/bluewaterpirate/LoadRite%20Trailer/11.jpg?t=1311800224


I reapply CRC once a year just to be safe. It's worth the time and money!

ncor33
04-24-2012, 11:46 AM
Hey bluewaterpirate, thanks for posting the videos. My wife called me a nerd for watching them, but I just love that stuff. Seeing stuff done makes you realize that there are a lot of DIY projects out there that are fixable at home. Nice work, btw.

bluewaterpirate
04-25-2012, 06:05 AM
ncor ....

You're correct there is a lot you can do for yourself if you can find the time. The trailer project took me a couple of weeks but I learned everything there is to know about my trailer. Was worth all the time and effort! Glad the videos helped you out.

frugal boater
04-25-2012, 08:39 AM
BWP/Tom
In video you mention using the Mercury Corrosion Guard. Did you switch to the CRC for a reason?

bluewaterpirate
04-25-2012, 09:02 AM
No ... just had a bunch of the Mercury brand handy when I started the project. Either one will work just great!



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