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sailfish18
04-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Whats going on here, why in the world are they so high? Looking to do a trip to the bahamas this summer and now Im rethinking the entire trip. Gas and Diesel prices are out the roof and show no signs of stopping, my question is why? ;?


CaptKennyW
04-01-2012, 08:58 PM
Hope and Change for one, the troubles in Iran and the Straits of Hormuz, Speculators, Anti-Oil govt, China India and Brazil growing fast, The EPA.

seabob4
04-01-2012, 09:05 PM
Hope and Change for one, the troubles in Iran and the Straits of Hormuz, Speculators, Anti-Oil govt, China India and Brazil growing fast, The EPA. Yeah, hope and change that your boys Newt and Mitt don't get their hands on oil futures...then we're REALLY F'd!!!


aiian
04-01-2012, 09:09 PM
In before someone claims gas was 1.85 when the POTUS took over...

Ranger88
04-01-2012, 09:13 PM
Yeah, but it was $4.00 before that, and we all knew it was going back up.

You're right about Obama, but it's not like this all happened on his watch.

seabob4
04-01-2012, 09:47 PM
The gubment doesn't control the economy, the corporations do...we all know that, so let's stop pointing fingers...

Like "The Who" said..."Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"...

sailfish18
04-01-2012, 10:03 PM
Any signs of it going back down? Lets say before may and june

seabob4
04-01-2012, 10:05 PM
Any signs of it going back down? Lets say before may and june

Want to guess Sept./Oct.? Kinda coinciding with the first Tuesday in November?

Bruce W
04-01-2012, 10:11 PM
The gubment doesn't control the economy, the corporations do...we all know that, so let's stop pointing fingers...

Like "The Who" said..."Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"...

... and "We WON'T Get Fooled Again". :nono:

Regards,

seabob4
04-01-2012, 10:14 PM
Rick? Newt? Mitt?...

Yeah, you will...get fooled again...

sailfish18
04-01-2012, 10:18 PM
Want to guess Sept./Oct.? Kinda coinciding with the first Tuesday in November?

Just before the election, just what I was thinking but didn't want to hear.

seabob4
04-01-2012, 10:40 PM
Just before the election, just what I was thinking but didn't want to hear.

It is what it is...if I'm wrong, great....

Brad1
04-02-2012, 03:45 AM
The gubment doesn't control the economy,

Who passes laws which affect commerce?

Who sets tax rates?

Who operates the federal reserve?

Who sets the interest rate?

Who decides to allow new domestic petroleum drilling?

I could go on and on, but I would hope you get the point by now.

If that isn't controlling the economy, it's about as damn close as you can get.

yarcraft91
04-02-2012, 04:28 AM
When the economy thrives under a President, he has been quick to claim credit. When the economy struggles, he has been just as quick to blame someone else. It is ever thus.

This coming presidential and congressional election- by whom would you rather be fooled? That's the choice I see.

NJFISH
04-02-2012, 04:42 AM
Rick? Newt? Mitt?...

Yeah, you will...get fooled again...

Good little sheep:roll

baypro21
04-02-2012, 04:42 AM
The gubment doesn't control the economy, the corporations do...we all know that, so let's stop pointing fingers...

Like "The Who" said..."Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"...


Gov't sets policy that controls the economy. If what you say is true what is Burnwacky doing to the Fed rate? Gov't standing in the way of drilling and squelching pipeline building has no effect on fuel prices? Really? You can't believe that.

I can see how you don't trust Newt when he promises $2.50 per gallon gas. You trusted the HOPE AND CHANGE FOOL and it turns out he lied to everybody's face. What choice do we have though? I say when they don't do as promised we vote them out and go on to the next guy. We're all f'd but with the incumbent it will be sooner rather than later.

HE TRIED AND LIED, NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE NEXT GUY.

Deriso
04-02-2012, 04:44 AM
HE TRIED AND LIED, NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE NEXT GUY.

:thumbsup:

epanzella
04-02-2012, 04:47 AM
The govt doesn't control the economy directly but their policies set the trend. Drill or not. Business friendly or not. Tons of regulation or not. All time record for deficit spending or not. Bush lifted the moratorium on drilling and the price of gas dropped nearly 50% in a few months without a single new well being drilled. The Hope & Changling will prolly do that in July or August, just in time for you-know-what.

CARV
04-02-2012, 05:08 AM
Obama and energy sec Chu have both openly advocated for extremely high gas prices. It's on tape, there is no refuting it. Now, why doesn't the administration just take credit for it as one of their very few accomplishments? I don't get it.

Jughed
04-02-2012, 07:26 AM
Obama and energy sec Chu have both openly advocated for extremely high gas prices. It's on tape, there is no refuting it. Now, why doesn't the administration just take credit for it as one of their very few accomplishments? I don't get it.

Could be that Obama clearly stated during his campaign that oil/gas prices will never get this high (in reference to the high prices that Bush created) if he is elected. Something something - "I will never allow the American public to suffer these prices" "it's Bush's fault" ...

Thats on tape as well. And there is no refuting it.

KJS
04-02-2012, 07:35 AM
^^^^Being on tape doesn't matter. Remember Obamalama bowed to the Saudi King. He was on video doing it. He said he didn't do it.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef012875a01896970c-300wi

sailfish18
04-02-2012, 01:41 PM
Gov't sets policy that controls the economy. If what you say is true what is Burnwacky doing to the Fed rate? Gov't standing in the way of drilling and squelching pipeline building has no effect on fuel prices? Really? You can't believe that.

I can see how you don't trust Newt when he promises $2.50 per gallon gas. You trusted the HOPE AND CHANGE FOOL and it turns out he lied to everybody's face. What choice do we have though? I say when they don't do as promised we vote them out and go on to the next guy. We're all f'd but with the incumbent it will be sooner rather than later.

HE TRIED AND LIED, NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE NEXT GUY.

Very well said, that last line is one for the books :thumbsup:

PSW
04-02-2012, 01:53 PM
Wish my boat could run off LNG. The more commercial rigs we get to diversify and include LNG as a fuel source the better. More drilling and more alternative energy. If we diversify the speculation may possibly subside as supply for crude improves.

Jughed
04-03-2012, 06:52 AM
Wish my boat could run off LNG. The more commercial rigs we get to diversify and include LNG as a fuel source the better. More drilling and more alternative energy. If we diversify the speculation may possibly subside as supply for crude improves.

The demand for crude will only grow - pretty much no matter what we do. India and China, 27 bazillion people all getting ready to own cars and drive...

Deriso
04-03-2012, 06:57 AM
27 bazillion people all getting ready to own cars and drive...

I heard it was 28 bazillion,, :grin:

Kamper
04-04-2012, 05:01 AM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430690_353979764636796_100000743262018_1077531_158 0591615_n.jpg

Tireless
04-04-2012, 05:04 AM
Who passes laws which affect commerce?

Who sets tax rates?

Who operates the federal reserve?

Who sets the interest rate?

Who decides to allow new domestic petroleum drilling?

I could go on and on, but I would hope you get the point by now.

If that isn't controlling the economy, it's about as damn close as you can get.
Don't ask him those difficult questions, he doesn't have a clue and he never will. :rofl:

ladyjane
04-04-2012, 05:08 AM
here's another one for the bilge

Tireless
04-04-2012, 05:11 AM
Obama and energy sec Chu have both openly advocated for extremely high gas prices. It's on tape, there is no refuting it. Now, why doesn't the administration just take credit for it as one of their very few accomplishments? I don't get it.
Seriously, it is the only campaign promise he has kept....and 80% of the idiots that voted for him in 2008 will vote for him again in 2012. BO's top energy administrator, Chu Chu Charlie, has been very clear about his desire for the US consumer to pay upwards of $8 to $10 per gallon of fuel. Mission Accomplished ChuChu ..... we are half way there. :thumbsup:

Bugbuster
04-04-2012, 05:17 AM
In india you can get a barrel of gas for two virgins....... no chit. Pretty fucking expensive if you ask me.


A barrel of oil can trade in India for 600 bucks or two virgin women.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_is_a_gallon_of_gas_in_India

gort
04-04-2012, 05:25 AM
BO's top energy administrator, Chu Chu Charlie, has been very clear about his desire for the US consumer to pay upwards of $8 to $10 per gallon of fuel. Mission Accomplished ChuChu ..... we are half way there. :thumbsup:

Seriously? I hadn't heard that.

Got a link?

JCC123
04-04-2012, 05:27 AM
I can get the $600
The alternative will be next to impossible.

yarcraft91
04-04-2012, 05:29 AM
In india you can get a barrel of gas for two virgins....... no chit. Pretty fucking expensive if you ask me.


A barrel of oil can trade in India for 600 bucks or two virgin women.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_is_a_gallon_of_gas_in_India

Yes, but those Indian cars are very economical. Some of them get 2000 mpv (miles per virgin).

Boat Hound
04-04-2012, 05:37 AM
Seriously? I hadn't heard that.

Got a link?

Google it, there are a ton of links...It is no secret that Obama wants these high gas prices

fichtion
04-04-2012, 07:06 AM
Sad thing is that I do not know one person or hear many people state that they support Obama.

Yet, look at the national polls (not sure the electoral breakdown) and he beats whoever the Repubs put up against him..

I am dumbfounded.

yarcraft91
04-04-2012, 10:52 AM
Sad thing is that I do not know one person or hear many people state that they support Obama.

Yet, look at the national polls (not sure the electoral breakdown) and he beats whoever the Repubs put up against him..

I am dumbfounded.

Could be the candidates the Republicans have to offer.

Could be you don't run in the same circles as Obama voters.

Could be the guys running the polls.

Who knows?

id-10-t
04-04-2012, 03:06 PM
Sad thing is that I do not know one person or hear many people state that they support Obama.

Yet, look at the national polls (not sure the electoral breakdown) and he beats whoever the Repubs put up against him..

I am dumbfounded.

its rigged

Brad1
04-04-2012, 05:45 PM
I'm no Obama supporter (I voted for the other guy), but this country's vulnerability to foreign oil goes back to the 70s (perhaps even before that). Remember the gas lines in the 70s? Decades later, it's still a problem. In all these years, nobody's done anything to solve the problem. Both parties dropped the ball IMO.

ChesapeakeBay
04-04-2012, 06:21 PM
Conditions Are Right for a Drop in Oil Prices
http://www.growthstockwire.com/

ZIGZAG
04-04-2012, 06:41 PM
How's that HOPE and CHANGE thing working out for yaw now, and yes, he "messiah" said while he was running he didn't care if fuel cost $8.00 or more a gallon, so he is living up to his promise on change everyday.

Tireless
04-04-2012, 08:04 PM
Seriously? I hadn't heard that.

Got a link? You should learn how to use the Internet search tools like BING, Google, Yahoo, etc.

MAXIMUM B
04-05-2012, 10:01 AM
I'm no Obama supporter (I voted for the other guy), but this country's vulnerability to foreign oil goes back to the 70s (perhaps even before that). Remember the gas lines in the 70s? Decades later, it's still a problem. In all these years, nobody's done anything to solve the problem. Both parties dropped the ball IMO.

There is not an oil shortage! Tha's what they want you to believe.

mangoinboard
04-05-2012, 10:25 AM
oil shortage?
cars getting 20 + mpg
big trucks using side skirts for better milage
adding ethonal to fuel
and the price keeps going up.
:banghead::banghead::banghead::mad::mad:

MAXIMUM B
04-05-2012, 10:27 AM
oil shortage?
cars getting 20 + mpg
big trucks using side skirts for better milage
adding ethonal to fuel
and the price keeps going up.
:banghead::banghead::banghead::mad::mad:

export and speculators

jobowker
04-05-2012, 10:34 AM
I'm no Obama supporter (I voted for the other guy), but this country's vulnerability to foreign oil goes back to the 70s (perhaps even before that). Remember the gas lines in the 70s? Decades later, it's still a problem. In all these years, nobody's done anything to solve the problem. Both parties dropped the ball IMO.

Would you quit using all of these facts and intelligent questions? You are ruining a perfectly good argument for the rest of us. :grin:

mangoinboard
04-05-2012, 11:16 AM
how much can I pull with a smart car?

:jk:

Eyeball
04-05-2012, 02:12 PM
Do you folks realize the price of oil has the Fed over a barrel ... literally? The Fed needs to inject liquidity into the economy for keep the TBTF's from failing as their toxic debt causes downgrades which cause them to get hit with increased margin calls they can't meet. Right now MorganStanley is on their knees before Moody's (pants zipped?) over this very issue. But if the Fed does inject liquidity, QE3, Twist, whatever ... the cost of gasoline is going to rocket past $5/gal toward $6/gal before the Nov election. Because of the high price of gas and the politics surrounding that there is nothing the Fed can do but sit and watch it all go to hell until it meets again in December, after the election. By then there is nothing within the Fed's power that can save the economy from the $1-trillion+ in defaults that are projected to hit in Jan 2013.

epanzella
04-05-2012, 04:56 PM
Gas is not going up. The value of money is going down. Keep those printing presses rolling!

ZIGZAG
04-05-2012, 05:59 PM
It's worth $20.00 a gallon if it get's rid of the present administration and get's our heads on right and starts us on the path of true independence, let's use our own resources and quit depending on the whims of all our enemies.

Gator56
04-06-2012, 11:04 AM
Wow

Gator56
04-06-2012, 11:07 AM
If the U.S. would of stayed on track like they were in the 70's running the utility company vehicles on natural gas/propane by now we wouldn't have this problem and natural gas is the largest commodity in the world as far as for quantity in it's right here in U.S. soil.

Gator56
04-07-2012, 12:58 AM
A lot of folks can't understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in our country.
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Well, there's a very simple answer.
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Nobody bothered to check the oil.
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We just didn't know we were getting low.
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The reason for that is purely geographical.
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Our OIL is located in:
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ALASKA
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California
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Coastal Florida
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Coastal Louisiana
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Coastal Alabama
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Coastal Mississippi
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Coastal Texas
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North Dakota
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Wyoming
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Colorado
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Kansas
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Oklahoma
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Pennsylvania
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And
Texas
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But Our dipsticks are located in DC
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Any Questions?
NO? Didn't think So.

Gator56
04-07-2012, 01:39 AM
100 mpg Fisker Karma

ZIGZAG
04-07-2012, 04:26 AM
A lot of folks can't understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in our country.
~~~
Well, there's a very simple answer.
~~~
Nobody bothered to check the oil.
~~~
We just didn't know we were getting low.
~~~
The reason for that is purely geographical.
~~~
Our OIL is located in:
~~~
ALASKA
~~~
California
~~~
Coastal Florida
~~~
Coastal Louisiana
~~~
Coastal Alabama
~~~~
Coastal Mississippi
~~~~
Coastal Texas
~~~
North Dakota
~~~
Wyoming
~~~
Colorado
~~~
Kansas
~~~
Oklahoma
~~~
Pennsylvania
~~~
And
Texas
~~~
But Our dipsticks are located in DC
~~~
Any Questions?
NO? Didn't think So.

that makes perfect sense:)

Deriso
04-07-2012, 04:34 AM
If the U.S. would of stayed on track like they were in the 70's running the utility company vehicles on natural gas/propane by now we wouldn't have this problem and natural gas is the largest commodity in the world as far as for quantity in it's right here in U.S. soil.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

LI Sound Grunt
04-07-2012, 04:39 AM
Saw on TV yesterday about 4 tapes of Bill O'reilly and several Republican leaders saying how the President has no control over the oil price - they were 4 plus year old tapes of course - one link is here http://www.mediaite.com/tv/video-fox-news-defends-president-over-high-gas-prices/

thajeffski
04-07-2012, 05:05 AM
Well, because of fuel costs I'm moving the boat 12 mins from my door instead of 25ish... figure I'll just be sitting at the docks a lot more..

Gator56
04-07-2012, 07:27 AM
Saw on TV yesterday about 4 tapes of Bill O'reilly and several Republican leaders saying how the President has no control over the oil price - they were 4 plus year old tapes of course - one link is here http://www.mediaite.com/tv/video-fox-news-defends-president-over-high-gas-prices/

Well when you won't let oil companies drill offshore - Obummer & his administrations doings - When you give 2 billion to Brazil to offshore drill but China benefits from it & George Soros - Obummers decision to press this on U.S. Bank - When you won't allow Canada's pipeline come through - Obummer's decision - I could go on and on why this "Chosen One" president is causing high fuel prices.

thajeffski
04-07-2012, 07:35 AM
Well when you won't let oil companies drill offshore - Obummer & his administrations doings - When you give 2 billion to Brazil to offshore drill but China benefits from it & George Soros - Obummers decision to press this on U.S. Bank - When you won't allow Canada's pipeline come through - Obummer's decision - I could go on and on why this "Chosen One" president is causing high fuel prices.

You really think he doesn't want to drill??

Thank BP for screwing it up for us.

Gator56
04-07-2012, 08:06 AM
You really think he doesn't want to drill??

Thank BP for screwing it up for us.

Ok sure he didn't want to drill way before that :banghead:
and what's the reasoning behind others - pipeline - having Brazil drill with U.S. funds but we don't get to prosper from the oil and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
I don't understand you Obama supporters that think this guy's doing a good job when he's running OUR Country down into the ground. Tell me the good he's done!!!

Brad1
04-07-2012, 08:25 AM
You really think he doesn't want to drill??

Thank BP for screwing it up for us.

The Democratic party has been opposed to drilling WAY before the BP incident. I have always been pissed about that. Me with my 14 gasoline combustion engines and all.

On the flip side, I'm far from where that BP incident occurred and I wasn't affected the way the folks that live in that region were affected. So who am I to say what's right.

I want cheap gas. On the other hand, I don't want to see environmental disasters like the one that happened in the gulf.

thajeffski
04-07-2012, 10:27 AM
i meant blame BP for the enviro nuts having an Ace in their pocket re: drilling near our shores. Now even if our president is on board we'll have people up in arms showing the 99% how a real protest is done.

ZIGZAG
04-07-2012, 06:34 PM
You really think he doesn't want to drill??

Thank BP for screwing it up for us.

That's B/S and you know it!, yes they had a blowout and spilled some oil, the biggest mistake made down ther was the OBAMA administration came up with the bright idea of spraying the dispersants, just like an uneducated administration, they thought out of sight, out of mind! but guess what, according to everybody within the year all the panhandle beach's were having a banner year on tourism, and guess what, we're still eating oysters, with any venture comes risk, driving a car, sitting on your front porch, flying in an airplane, or drilling oil, you keep picking up one foot and putting it in fornt of the other, get over it.



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