Dockside Chat - Al and Jesse....Remember this case?

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HDTBC
03-29-2012, 05:38 PM
I don't think we heard a peep out of the "reverends" on this one.

Someone oughta remind the panthers about this one.....

I'm totally disgusted with people in general these days.

Shawn Tyson, 17, gets life for killing Brits


(AP) SARASOTA, Fla. - A Florida teenager received a life sentence Wednesday after a jury convicted him of first-degree murder in the shooting deaths of two young British tourists last April, a case that generated blaring tabloid headlines in the U.K. press.

Shawn Tyson, 17, sat stone-faced as the jury's verdict was read and as two friends of the victims spoke angrily about the crime. When Judge Rick De Furia asked Tyson if he wanted to say anything before being sentenced, Tyson mumbled, "No."

The verdict came after two hours of deliberations and the sentencing about an hour after the verdict. Because he is under 18, Tyson is ineligible for the death penalty and is facing a mandatory life sentence.

During the trial, witnesses testified that Tyson shot James Cooper, 25, and James Kouzaris, 24, last April 16. The two men were vacationing in Sarasota and spent an evening drinking when they got lost and walked into a housing project where Tyson lived. Details of their deaths have gripped the British news media. Tabloids there have written stories saying the men were "slaughtered" in a Florida "ghetto."

Photos released by British police authorities show James Cooper, 25, right, with friend James Kouzaris, 24, left. (Credit: AP/Police handout)
In a statement, the families of Cooper and Kouzaris accused Tyson of being "evil," saying that they had been given "a life sentence when our sons were so brutally and needlessly taken from us. Ours is a life sentence, with no chance of parole from a broken heart, and a shattered soul."

Joe Hallett, a friend of the victims who sat through the entire trial, said the pair befriended people from different walks of life and would have tried that with Tyson, as well.

"I have to try to make you understand the pain you brought to so many people," Hallett said to Tyson. "It was through your deadly action that you've taken us all on a journey to hell. Every night before you go to sleep, every morning you wake up, I want you to think of my friends who were murdered."

During a news conference in front of the courthouse following the verdict, Hallett praised Sarasota police and municipal officials. But he criticized the U.S. government for what he said was its failure to send condolences to the victims' families.

A prosecutor also read a statement from Cooper's parents and played a video at the request of his parents. The video, which portrayed the young man from the time he was born, was also played at his funeral.

Kouzaris was from Northampton and Cooper was from Hampton Lucy, Warwick. Both were considered fun-loving world travelers by friends — but also smart and cautious. Authorities said both were drunk when they got lost and wandered just before 3 a.m. into the housing project where Tyson lived.

Witnesses testified that Tyson told them he saw two "crackers" — his phrase for white people — walking through the neighborhood and that he intended to rob them. The tourists said they didn't have any money and begged Tyson to let them go home. The men also told Tyson that they were lost.

"Since you ain't got no money, then I have something for your ass," Tyson recounted to a witness, then added that he shot the men several times.

The tourists' bodies were found shirtless on the street and their baggy pants were pulled down to their thighs. Both men still had their wallets and did in fact have money; Cooper also had a cellphone and camera in his pants pocket. Authorities later found that Kouzaris' blood alcohol level was 0.243 and Cooper's was 0.214 — well past Florida's legal limit for intoxication when driving, which is 0.08.

During closing arguments, Assistant State Attorney Ed Brodsky told the jury that the case was about "opportunities."

"For James Cooper and James Kouzaris, they had seized an opportunity to travel abroad," Brodsky said. "Shawn Tyson seized upon an opportunity to rob and kill two men."

In the end, Tyson was his own undoing. Several prosecution witnesses said Tyson told friends about the shootings in the hours after the killings, then asked friends to hide the murder weapon and bury bullets. A DNA expert said Tyson's skin cells were found on Cooper's jeans.

Tyson maintained to police that he was at home during the murders. But witnesses spotted him crawling into his window shortly after hearing gunshots.

Tyson did not testify. His attorneys called only one witness, a crime scene technician, and questioned him briefly. Defense attorneys also tried to discredit the witnesses by saying many of them had criminal records and cooperated with detectives to avoid jail time.

The defense also said no one saw Tyson shoot Cooper and Kouzaris.

Authorities say Tyson wasn't alone the night of the shooting; police have not charged the second suspect because they don't have enough evidence. That person is currently in prison on unrelated charges.

Paul Davis, another friend of the men who attended the trial, had another message for Tyson.

"You might think that being a man is about carrying a gun, but it isn't," Davis said. "The stupid thing about what you've done is that you've ended your own life."


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406265/shawn-tyson-17-gets-life-for-killing-brits/


Marlin009
03-29-2012, 05:44 PM
Not their kind of story.

meii
03-29-2012, 05:50 PM
I remember that case.

This new generation is............I actually don't have words.


GhostShip
03-29-2012, 05:52 PM
Someone oughta remind the panthers about this one.....


Witnesses testified that Tyson told them he saw two "crackers" — his phrase for white people — walking through the neighborhood and that he intended to rob them. The tourists said they didn't have any money and begged Tyson to let them go home. The men also told Tyson that they were lost.



The Panthers agree with Tyson ;) Maybe Tyson saw this video :(

Black Panther kill some crackers.flv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcfymOvoUo

baypro21
03-29-2012, 05:59 PM
Those reverends have unidirectional selective vision.


This is a cut and paste of my response in the other thread:

There are a lot of people in the news lately like Jackson, Sharpton, and Lee that are living by this notion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow

it's absolutely disgusting and the most racist of acts. They are all up in arms over this. Am I, and everyone else, to assume, that by their inaction, they are perfectly fine as long as it's a black on black crime? F'n hypocrites. If I was a black man I would kick their sorry asses out of the brotherhood for giving everyone a bad name.

adimice
03-30-2012, 04:34 AM
Channon Christian and Chris Newson raped mutilated and murdered by 5 blacks, Nick Lindsey shots 25 yr veteran cop in the back, 13yr old white kid doused with gas and set afire by black mob, Bob and Nancy Strait, he 90 she 85, she was raped and murdered he was beat unconsious, by blacks. 51 people shot in Chicago over 1 weekend, 10 dead blacks. The loony left liberals suffer from an acute case of selective outrage:banghead::banghead:

fichtion
03-30-2012, 05:20 AM
We had a case near me in Norwalk CT where a woman was arrested for sending her kid to a school not in here district.

One of the right reverends held a rally here with outrage at how this outstanding citizen was just trying to get a good education for the kid.

She was arrested like the next day for dealing crack.

Never heard from the reverends again.

She was just senenced to five (5) years on the drug charge.

Time to move on to the next story for them.

Remember Tawana Brawley?

Runied police officer and prosecutors' careers.

Ooops she lied, no apology from the right reverends.

They do more to hurt their "people" than help that is for damn sure.

Insteada
03-30-2012, 09:23 AM
Between this and the other video of the guy getting mobbed there is a constant. What's with the pulling down of mens pants? What kind of weird kink is that? Some new "game"?

GhostShip
03-30-2012, 09:33 AM
Between this and the other video of the guy getting mobbed there is a constant. What's with the pulling down of mens pants? What kind of weird kink is that? Some new "game"?

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DFreedom
03-30-2012, 10:13 AM
No one cares about a brother killing a couple of pussy ass crackers. That won't get Jeese or Al any headlines.

I am just waiting for the blacks to start burning their own stuff when they don't get "justice".

Insteada
03-30-2012, 10:25 AM
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I'm familiar with them wearing THEIR OWN pants in a sagging fashion. What confuses me is when a group of them, or this one kid in the story above whoop on someone and then once they have shot or beaten them they pull their pants down and seemingly take a good look at their junk or something. That video of the guy who wandered into the wrong part of town and was jumped on by a ton of folks they were stripping him. This kid pulled his vics pants to their mid thighs. What's up with the crotch peeping?

fichtion
03-30-2012, 10:49 AM
animals.

4 Paws
03-30-2012, 11:15 AM
I think the answer to this is fairly evident. Al and Jesse will only crusade a cause when the victim is of the same color as themselves. Why someone of a different color is any less of a victim in their eyes still puzzles me.

CARV
03-30-2012, 11:22 AM
Channon Christian and Chris Newson raped mutilated and murdered by 5 blacks, Nick Lindsey shots 25 yr veteran cop in the back, 13yr old white kid doused with gas and set afire by black mob, Bob and Nancy Strait, he 90 she 85, she was raped and murdered he was beat unconsious, by blacks. 51 people shot in Chicago over 1 weekend, 10 dead blacks. The loony left liberals suffer from an acute case of selective outrage:banghead::banghead:

You can't tell the truth any more in the new Amerika. That will get you in trouble with the "passionate left".

Paul Barnard
03-30-2012, 11:38 AM
I don't understand why you expect Sharpton, Jackson et al to embrace causes other than their own. I sure as hell don't. I am not a member of fisheries rights organizations in Canada. I'm not a member of all of them in America. EVERY one of use is selective in the causes we embrace. Their cause is equality and justice for black Americans. It's a good cause and an important cause. Sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong. I support their right to do what they do and your right to hold them accountable.

beenie
03-30-2012, 01:51 PM
I'd like to load Jesse in a cannon and shoot Al with him.

adimice
03-30-2012, 03:21 PM
I don't understand why you expect Sharpton, Jackson et al to embrace causes other than their own. I sure as hell don't. I am not a member of fisheries rights organizations in Canada. I'm not a member of all of them in America. EVERY one of use is selective in the causes we embrace. Their cause is equality and justice for black Americans. It's a good cause and an important cause. Sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong. I support their right to do what they do and your right to hold them accountable.

I've never seen either of these race baiters say or do a thing other than stir the racial hatred pot at every chance they had. I'd be interested in 1 thing you think they've done to help their race.

Elusive
03-30-2012, 03:32 PM
I don't understand why you expect Sharpton, Jackson et al to embrace causes other than their own. I sure as hell don't. I am not a member of fisheries rights organizations in Canada. I'm not a member of all of them in America. EVERY one of use is selective in the causes we embrace. Their cause is equality and justice for black Americans. It's a good cause and an important cause. Sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong. I support their right to do what they do and your right to hold them accountable.


Their cause is profiting from hate and race-baiting. They have nothing to do with equality or justice for anyone

magua
03-30-2012, 03:45 PM
I don't understand why you expect Sharpton, Jackson et al to embrace causes other than their own. I sure as hell don't. I am not a member of fisheries rights organizations in Canada. I'm not a member of all of them in America. EVERY one of use is selective in the causes we embrace. Their cause is equality and justice for black Americans. It's a good cause and an important cause. Sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong. I support their right to do what they do and your right to hold them accountable.

hmmmmm

A Few Dollars
03-30-2012, 04:07 PM
Not their kind of story.:thumbsup:

Those reverends have unidirectional selective vision. :thumbsup:

Liberals are Hypocrites



On a New Orleans overpass

http://www.wdsu.com/2012/0329/30793844_640X363.jpg


"Black people kill whites too! Everyday."

HDTBC
03-30-2012, 04:27 PM
I don't understand why you expect Sharpton, Jackson et al to embrace causes other than their own. I sure as hell don't. I am not a member of fisheries rights organizations in Canada. I'm not a member of all of them in America. EVERY one of use is selective in the causes we embrace. Their cause is equality and justice for black Americans. It's a good cause and an important cause. Sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong. I support their right to do what they do and your right to hold them accountable.

Then why, may I ask, do we NEVER hear a peep out of them about blacks murdering people in the ghetto everyday and fathering a dozen illegitimate kids each?

Remember, black males comprise 6% of the US population, they account for 52% of murders committed in the US, and 10.4% of all black males in the US are in prison. If it looks like shit and smells like shit, it usually is shit.

I appreciate your respect for everyone's rights.....the problem is we will lose those rights while you're sitting on the couch supporting their right to be racist and lazy and father too many kids and kill people, etc.

burtonboards32
03-30-2012, 06:09 PM
Someone should sit Bill down in a room with the Reverends...

http://www.examiner.com/education-in-national/bill-cosby-speaks-bluntly-about-black-people-and-education

Marlin009
03-30-2012, 06:28 PM
Someone should sit Bill down in a room with the Reverends...

http://www.examiner.com/education-in-national/bill-cosby-speaks-bluntly-about-black-people-and-education

Unfortunately, Bill's not real popular with the justice brothers. :grin:

Or anyone else that needs to hear him.

burtonboards32
03-30-2012, 06:52 PM
Unfortunately, Bill's not real popular with the justice brothers. :grin:

Or anyone else that needs to hear him.

The truth apparently hurts...

tat2
03-30-2012, 08:12 PM
:thumbsup::rofl::thumbsup::rofl:I'd like to load Jesse in a cannon and shoot Al with him.

TECH9405
03-30-2012, 08:51 PM
I refuse to refer to those goons as "reverend". Revered? Never. :nono:

Rascalsdad
03-31-2012, 08:41 AM
Between this and the other video of the guy getting mobbed there is a constant. What's with the pulling down of mens pants? What kind of weird kink is that? Some new "game"?

I was wondering the same thing. What exactly is going on here?



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