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cgrand
03-29-2012, 11:26 AM
i bought a 1974 bronco at an equipment auction last week
it was listed as "bill of sale" only but i basically stole it so now i would like to try and title it if i can

what i will have is a bill of sale with VIN and vehicle description from the auction house. i haven't yet asked them if they can give me the name & contact info of whoever consigned it to the auction

what are my options...legal ones that is?
i have read about getting a "bonded" title, which is doable i guess but i would have to buy a surety bond from state farm

if i can talk a lawyer friend into doing it for beer, couldn't i get a court order declaring me the owner free & clear?


DoubleO7
03-29-2012, 11:38 AM
i bought a 1974 bronco at an equipment auction last week
it was listed as "bill of sale" only but i basically stole it so now i would like to try and title it if i can

what i will have is a bill of sale with VIN and vehicle description from the auction house. i haven't yet asked them if they can give me the name & contact info of whoever consigned it to the auction

what are my options...legal ones that is?
i have read about getting a "bonded" title, which is doable i guess but i would have to buy a surety bond from state farm

if i can talk a lawyer friend into doing it for beer, couldn't i get a court order declaring me the owner free & clear?

National Vehicle Title Information System
http://www.vehiclehistory.gov/

Might be of some help.
But maybe too old.
Note that CarFax is not approved by our gooberment for such info.

Your local DMV should be able to assist via a VIN check too.
And how to get a clear title.
Might have to ask six different clerks at three different DMV offices though.

DoubleO7
03-29-2012, 11:40 AM
In Alabama and maybe Florida now, you can't even get a scrapyard to accept a vehicle without a title.


cgrand
03-29-2012, 11:51 AM
National Vehicle Title Information System
http://www.vehiclehistory.gov/

Might be of some help.
But maybe too old.
Note that CarFax is not approved by our gooberment for such info.

Your local DMV should be able to assist via a VIN check too.
And how to get a clear title.
Might have to ask six different clerks at three different DMV offices though.

i ran the VIN thru as many of the online checks i could, and found nothing
a dealer ran it for me and says it has never been titled/registered in louisiana
if i have to go navigate the seventh circle of hell at the LA DMV i guess i'll pack a lunch and take a few muscle relaxers first...

maybe i'll wear a hoodie

bikem
03-29-2012, 12:51 PM
You may be able to get a salvage title with what you have. If not I Have bought a couple 1950s trucks and titled them. In SC there are two ways I know of. First one I think is legal but seems shadey to me. You can turn it over to a tow truck company and for a fee they will hold the vehicle for X amount of days and file a mechanics lean or something, take possession of the vehicle and signs the title over to you. The way I have done it is to Hire a guy who is a retired police officer, he reasearches the vehicle history, does all the paper work necessary and gets a clear title. I think I paid something like $300.00 to get a 1953 Chevy truck bought in NC titled in SC. By the way I got his number from the local Magistrate and DMV was Zero help.

DoubleO7
03-29-2012, 12:55 PM
So what kind of auction was this?
Not titled in LA only means that, not north america.
Was it a retired fire department or military truck or some other agency that might not ever have to register it?
Or from a dealer that kept it since new ?

cgrand
03-29-2012, 01:52 PM
The way I have done it is to Hire a guy who is a retired police officer, he reasearches the vehicle history, does all the paper work necessary and gets a clear title. I think I paid something like $300.00 to get a 1953 Chevy truck bought in NC titled in SC. By the way I got his number from the local Magistrate and DMV was Zero help.

DMV here has also been zero help...surprise, surprise
they must all shop at the same place

your method above sounds like the ticket, thanks!

007 it was at an equipment auction (contractor stuff)
i have no idea as to the provenance of the car
i can send you the VIN if you know people who can look it up

DoubleO7
03-29-2012, 02:13 PM
DMV here has also been zero help...surprise, surprise
they must all shop at the same place

your method above sounds like the ticket, thanks!

007 it was at an equipment auction (contractor stuff)
i have no idea as to the provenance of the car
i can send you the VIN if you know people who can look it up

If it was always used on private property, it might have never been titled or registered.
Never titled is odd but it is not odd to never been registered.
I once bought a 1959 Jeep cabover that was a firetruck inside a GM (yes GM)
factory in Michigan. It was always inside the factory, never saw rain or snow supposedly and in 1990 when I bought it, it looked like new.
That one was never registered of course but there was a title.

Maybe that Bronco was a yard truck or something for a mine or other very big property owning company.

Cant help you run the numbers, sorry.

But if it is in any decent shape, you should get some good coin out of it whole or in parts.
It is a very sought after vehicle.

cgrand
03-29-2012, 02:15 PM
But if it is in any decent shape, you should get some good coin out of it whole or in parts.
It is a very sought after vehicle.

i sure hope so
that's why i bought it, and no title is why i got it so cheap

my wife's cousin is a state trooper, he may be able to get the process started for me
anyone else with ideas please post up

Dulcecita Lures
03-29-2012, 02:27 PM
cgrand - investigate a salvage title for it. Basically, it's for vehicles that have been wrecked or constructed from scratch from other vehicles. I don't believe you need an original title to get one. Well, at least here in AZ. I imagine Weezyana is similar.

If that works, ya owe me a meat turtle. :thumbsup:

SeaJay
03-29-2012, 02:39 PM
I do not believe that 1974 cars were titled in New York State (I am absolutely sure that 1971 cars were not as I've owned a few) if this helps.

Gunner's Daughter
03-29-2012, 07:16 PM
CGrand,
Call Angela Dutel ABC Title of St Tammany 985-893-8963 she knows her stuff. They are at 360 Emmerald Forest Blvd in Covington -love those bronco's. I'll buy it. Post a picture

bikem
03-29-2012, 07:21 PM
I looked for the guys name and number but can't find it. I did the last truck in 2007. I did find the title and it has a letter attached from the Magistrate herself stating that the truck is free and clear of all leines ect. From what I remember he worked directly with the court. I would go talk to the local magistrate (not the help) and explaine your problem and see what he or she has to say. If that doesn't work call someone at your local hot rod club, they will know who to call.

Mr. Paul
03-29-2012, 07:46 PM
There are 50 states and ever state is different. Here in Missouri you would take it to the State Highway Patrol who would verify the VIN and then you go to the DMV

gameon
03-30-2012, 06:52 AM
Try http://www.getnewtitle.com/louisiana-lost-car-title-vehicle-title-replacement-service.html

it aint cheap but may be your only option

Johnny Dreamer
03-30-2012, 07:01 AM
What do you want the title for? Or rather, why does one need a "title".

cgrand
03-30-2012, 07:58 AM
What do you want the title for? Or rather, why does one need a "title".

when i sell it the title will make the vehicle much more valuable
thanks for all the help guys!

here's a pic of the bronco

DoubleO7
03-30-2012, 08:57 AM
when i sell it the title will make the vehicle much more valuable
thanks for all the help guys!

here's a pic of the bronco

Looks good in the pic.
Do you think the most of it is original or has there been hands in it patching the body 37 times ?

cgrand
03-30-2012, 09:23 AM
don't know yet
picking it up this afternoon

Mardi-Gras
03-30-2012, 08:24 PM
nice find, tell you what I can take off of your hands for your cost plus 10%?

Do not need a title b/c I will put it to use on a farm.....

cgrand
03-30-2012, 08:51 PM
got it home today
its in relatively good shape
a bit of bondo and some DIY modifications but all in all its rock solid
it has a little transmission issue but i had planned to ditch the column shifter anyway and put in a new floor shifter which ill do next week

to those who have asked about buying i will keep you posted



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