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rainmaking
03-27-2012, 08:10 PM
Not trying to start a thread full of slander and name-calling, but we would like some help.

My brother and I are building (having built) a 34' custom express sport fish and are trying to line up our electronics and design our helm console. I will try to post a pic of the helm design so far. We want to use 2x 19" monitors to display everything except engine functions. Functionality of radar and fish finder (finding birds and fish) are most important but we also do not want to clutter the helm with a bunch of custom instruments.


JoshKaptur
03-28-2012, 09:32 AM
Biggest Simrad screens available would be 12" I believe. But it allows you to upgrade to a chirp black box sounder/ducer, structure scan black box sounder, simrad open array radar (you want to spot birds) of your choice, and have autopilot control integrated in the unit entirely (including commissioning).

Garmin or Raymarine would get you all of that as well, but wouldn't have structure scan and I'm not sure about integrated autopilot.

BACKTOTHESEA
03-28-2012, 09:44 AM
Simrad certainly sells monitors to 19". NSO series. Big $$$ once you factor in the black box, networking, etc..

You may want to look into other after market monitor suppliers. I would think you couldsave some $$$ on the monitor side.


Justin009
03-28-2012, 10:59 AM
Furuno offers black box options that allows you to connect them to external 19" monitors. If you look at the Navnet 3D MFDBB, you can purchase one of these boxes and be able to plug it into both of the monitors. (They said they are also coming out with a black box of their new tztouch product late this year.) Then you can have the radar and chart plotter on one screen and then the fish finder on the second screen.

As far as finding birds, I've always heard that you need to start with at least a 12kw antenna, but even better if you can jump up to a 25kw. Hope this helps! You can't go wrong with Furuno.

Fish Magnet
03-28-2012, 05:35 PM
Id go with Furuno. They are coming out with CHIRP this summer so it might be worth waiting to get that. The radar is awesome and the fish finders are standard on all commercial boats.

rainmaking
03-28-2012, 05:47 PM
Thanks for the feedback!
Yes, we do want to use 3rd party displays. This for $ and availability and looks. The furuno black box radar is pricey. New ray marine models have 'bird mode' and dvi output. Has anyone tried this 'bird mode'? It's hard to find detailed info on simrad.

capecuddy
03-28-2012, 08:24 PM
I'd go with the guys bringing the new technology to the marine market....Simrad.... broadband radar, chirp sonar, sidescan sonar, effective networking, sharp displays, touch screen, etc.

semperfifishing
03-28-2012, 08:31 PM
What ever systems you go to take a good look into CHIRP.

gotumon
03-29-2012, 06:06 AM
The new Raymarine units are excellent. They are available either in the new C serire or E series. The big difference is that the E series is touch screen. They come in 9 or 12 " and the new sounder that uses both HD and chirp technology is excellent. I have had the occasion to use them and they are well worth a look. Also, they allow your Iphone, android, and Ipad top be a repeater as well as give you the option of planning your waypoints, routes, etc at home and wirelessly transferring them to the unit with the wireless hub that is built in. I have run the Raymarine super HD radar for several years and the "bird mode " works like a charm. You can also set your own "bird Mode" with adjustments in the sea clutter and gain. I can even see sea ducks when they are low to the water with it.

capecuddy
03-29-2012, 08:12 AM
To see birds at a range that beats binoculars, you'll need >6KW peak power and an open array antenna.

rainmaking
03-29-2012, 08:26 AM
Thanks again, great advice. I guess chirp is all the rage right now!
One issue for us with many of the mentioned products is captive, small displays. Neither Raymarine C/E nor Simrad will output to external 19" displays or remotely control with pointing device/remote/computer/etc. It seems like the Raymarine G series which does have DVI out doesn't have the features of the C/E series like chirp fishfinder interface and bird mode on the radar.

semperfifishing
03-29-2012, 09:14 AM
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One issue for us with many of the mentioned products is captive, small displays. Neither Raymarine C/E nor Simrad will output to external 19" displays or remotely control with pointing device/remote/computer/etc. It seems like the Raymarine G series which does have DVI out doesn't have the features of the C/E series like chirp fishfinder interface and bird mode on the radar.

Keep in mind the new Ray units are WIfI and you can use them on Ipads etc.

rainmaking
03-29-2012, 12:18 PM
Admittedly the wifi/iPad feature is cool, but can you control the instruments or are you merely seeing a live screenshot? I can't see it being more convenient in most conditions than viewing a mounted display.

semperfifishing
03-29-2012, 01:57 PM
You have a remote contro that gives limited use.

On the larger boats the ipad may be a nice option.
When fishing tuna that are being chummed under the boat then you can view the ipad and be ready at the reel....rather than trying to just listen for the tone from the wheel house.

abbor
03-29-2012, 03:06 PM
Simrad and Lowrance will in the near future come with a WiFi add-on module called GoFree. Tools will be available for application developers at all platforms to develop applications to display any data available in the network and to control connected devices.

rainmaking
03-29-2012, 09:23 PM
GoFree seems like it will be a great platform. I would love to get a developer kit for android. About Simrad, it looks like the NSO control might do what we want with the large displays and separate full-function remote...even before the new wireless networking device is ready. Is the TX10S a good radar? I see a lot of discussion about the structurescan sounder but it seems like a shallow-water only device. How does it compare to a new chirp unit?

capecuddy
03-30-2012, 08:09 AM
GoFree seems like it will be a great platform. I would love to get a developer kit for android. About Simrad, it looks like the NSO control might do what we want with the large displays and separate full-function remote...even before the new wireless networking device is ready. Is the TX10S a good radar? I see a lot of discussion about the structurescan sounder but it seems like a shallow-water only device. How does it compare to a new chirp unit?

I'm sure semper will jump in, but they are two different purposes and techniques. CHIRP is similar to broadband radar....it uses a waveform that changes frequency as it's transmitting to allow signal processing to deliver both gain and resolution on the returned signal. In operation, gain is as good as power. This requires a wide-band transducer.

Structurescan is a method known as "synthetic aperture" which behaves as though you have an array that is as big as the data collection run that you make is long (thus creating a very high resolution image of the bottom structure). This is why it's a two-pass type of system. You data-collect, then process a map then you can return to areas of interest via GPS waypoint.

If you are doing deep water fishing and that is your requirement, then CHIRP will be the system you want. If you fish in relatively shallow waters and want to see the details of the bottom for finding the "hidey holes" of the fish, the Structure scan is the tool. You might want/need both.

Birdman
03-30-2012, 09:09 AM
clean, simple, fast, and easy to use with full functionality!

Two Garmin 7215 displays, a GHP10 AP in them middle, a GSD26 Chirp Sounder module, a 4' or 6' open array, and lastly the GX51 Sat. WX module.

Done!!! Hope he's got a THICK wallet!!!! ;)

semperfifishing
03-30-2012, 09:11 AM
Done!!! Hope he's got a THICK wallet!!!! ;)

Not so....a credit card with a nice limit is VERY slim.:)

Birdman
03-30-2012, 09:15 AM
Not so....a credit card with a nice limit is VERY slim.:)


Sure, BUT, sooner or later, that "thin credit card" WILL hit the wallet!! :grin:

bluewaterseeker
03-30-2012, 09:17 AM
A friend of mine has a pair of the 7215's with the open array. Dang, that's a nice setup.

Justin009
03-30-2012, 01:19 PM
Admittedly the wifi/iPad feature is cool, but can you control the instruments or are you merely seeing a live screenshot? I can't see it being more convenient in most conditions than viewing a mounted display.

The new Furuno system allows full control of the unit from iPad with a free app. Check it out: http://www.marlinmag.com/videos-sf/featured-videos/furuno3-1

rainmaking
03-30-2012, 09:43 PM
Thanks for the input everyone! Chirp does seem like the way to go for fish finder, although the structure scan would be a nice dive or reef fishing tool.

Birdman, love your handy work! Garmin does make nice stuff but for us there might be a few issues. They are actually much smaller than your illustration. If we used a remote unit through a 19" monitor at the helm the garmin's output resolution is too low. We wouldn't want to actually mount a pair of 7215's in the helm because they will be out of date in no time. Garmin also seems kinda closed when it comes to open interfacing.

rainmaking
03-30-2012, 09:51 PM
The Garmin autopilot is a possibility though...they interface directly with the new teleflex optimus power steering (no separate pump) which is pretty cool.

nicktg
03-31-2012, 03:39 AM
Chirp does seem like the way to go for fish finder, although the structure scan would be a nice dive or reef fishing tool.



Just my 2c:
Structure scan is also a good trolling tool for locating the bait schools to the side of your vessel. It does have to be mounted correctly to operate in trolling speeds.
It sounds (to me) like Simrad NSO is the way to go for your needs (big monitors, black box, Structure scan, chirp, etc). I do not know if NSO does structure scan though. Also, if you go with Simrad, I would seriously consider the 4G broadband radar dome, in conjuction to the HD open array that is, for close quarters navigation.

Have fun picking :thumbsup:

rainmaking
03-31-2012, 04:29 PM
An Nick: Not sure why 2 radars would be of benefit. For nav purposes, why wouldn't the open array do everything I need?

I met a tournament fisherman last night that made a good point: it's nice to have a nav display straight in front of you at the wheel. Although I have never had a helm rigged that way, I do have the flexibility to design that for this boat. It may mean backing down in display size...any thoughts on that setup?

nicktg
04-02-2012, 04:27 AM
Can't beat the 4G in close/short range. You also get low consumption and emissions.

capecuddy
04-02-2012, 07:42 AM
Can't beat the 4G in close/short range. You also get low consumption and emissions.

Another great feature is using the broadband radars with a heading sensor. It enables very accurate chart overlay and thus your radar settings automagically match what's needed for the chart settings you are on. Land clutter returns and ATON targets show where the ATON's are Now as opposed to where they were when you snapped the waypoint for them. Keeps you from running aground and and bopping ATON's in the dark and fog. Powerful tool set for poor viz situations. If you can see inland ATON's, mooring balls, decking, rocks, land outlines, moored/anchored boats of any size, you are in good stead for finding your way home.

I'll never forget my first ride home in new moon darkness....I didn't even have a spotlight! I just kept my eye on the screen, followed my tracks and waypoints and used radar to avoid the ATON's and surprises. The depth data overlay was just as important in those shallow inlet waters. A white knuckler my steering wheel won't soon forget!

rainmaking
04-02-2012, 05:26 PM
I see. So how does the 4G work for t-storm spotting/tracking? We probably don't have space for both antennas between the hardtop and tower platform.

capecuddy
04-04-2012, 04:54 AM
Since I use my 3G in chart overlay mode, my range setting is too short to be real useful for tstorm detection. It does show rain clutter well, so I can see it when its close. I tend to pop out to a long range and use the weather overlay when looking for tstorms, esp. lightning.

Maybe some others can give you a better read based on how they use theirs.

Birdman
04-09-2012, 11:51 AM
Thanks for the input everyone! Chirp does seem like the way to go for fish finder, although the structure scan would be a nice dive or reef fishing tool.

Birdman, love your handy work! Garmin does make nice stuff but for us there might be a few issues. They are actually much smaller than your illustration. If we used a remote unit through a 19" monitor at the helm the garmin's output resolution is too low. We wouldn't want to actually mount a pair of 7215's in the helm because they will be out of date in no time. Garmin also seems kinda closed when it comes to open interfacing.

Huh? There is no other unit larger than the Garmin 7215, in any brand.

And, ANY and ALL units will be outdated a few years after you install them, that is meaningless. The 7215 is still ahead of it's time with everyone else trying to copy it, un-successfully so far.

semperfifishing
04-09-2012, 12:19 PM
:thumbsup:Huh? There is no other unit larger than the Garmin 7215, in any brand.

And, ANY and ALL units will be outdated a few years after you install them, that is meaningless. The 7215 is still ahead of it's time with everyone else trying to copy it, un-successfully so far.

:thumbsup:

rainmaking
04-09-2012, 02:21 PM
OK, last I checked 19" was bigger than 15". Also, with device-independent displays the electronics can be upgraded over and over and still not change the helm. The transflective 17" display we put on our intrepid in 2005 would still today look better than the screen on the 7215. Back then we drove it with a PC and Maptech software. Today it seems like there are limited radar and fishfinder solutions for that setup.

I'm not saying the 7215 isn't a nice unit, just that there are compelling reasons to go black box. Does that make sense?

Birdman
04-10-2012, 11:31 AM
OK, last I checked 19" was bigger than 15". Also, with device-independent displays the electronics can be upgraded over and over and still not change the helm. The transflective 17" display we put on our intrepid in 2005 would still today look better than the screen on the 7215. Back then we drove it with a PC and Maptech software. Today it seems like there are limited radar and fishfinder solutions for that setup.

I'm not saying the 7215 isn't a nice unit, just that there are compelling reasons to go black box. Does that make sense?

No, doesn't make any sense at all really. You answered your own question, there are no solutions currently to match what your talking about, until you go into "professional/commercial" type stuff which is a whole nother ball game. So your so called "great setup" with black-box remote control units and 19" monitors on your old boat, are now worthless. ;)

19" is bigger than 15", BUT, show me a MFD with a 19" display. Again, there are none. So again, two 7215's are the way to go. If you upgrade 5 or 10 years from now, you simply put new displays into the holes from the old displays, or simply cover the helm with acrylic, plexiglass or starboard, and install the new devices. Not a big deal.

Enjoy your new 7215's!!! :grin:

rainmaking
04-10-2012, 03:01 PM
Birdman,
I think you might be missing the fact that Simrad NSO has a 19" monitor option. That would be our high-end radar and chirp solution. We may still run a PC for other capabilities like raster charts (apparently best for Bahamas) and other functions. The 19" displays have multiple inputs and make switching between sources easy. If Garmin had a black box solution it might be a different story, but I don't want 7215's in the helm 'cause in five minutes there'll be 8215's, then 9215's....our helm's not getting any starboard either....

LMychajluk
04-10-2012, 04:12 PM
An couple of NSOs w/ 19" displays would be a bad-ass setup. Keep in mind that though one NSO can drive 2 monitors, they'll have identical output. I would think in your setup you'd have 2 NSOs (probably better for redundancy anyway...) w/ 2 separate 19" displays, w/ a single control unit (OP40) mounted centrally controlling all the black boxes. Maybe add a wireless remote and CZONE control?

I can't wait to see the final product!

rainmaking
04-10-2012, 07:25 PM
Yes, either 2x NSO's driving the 19's plus a display and OP40 in the tower...or...perhaps a NSE or NSS in the tower also driving one of the 19's at the main helm. Not sure that the NSS will drive a display at a different resolution though. Hopefully integrate czone too, and be able to additionally control everything from display (TV) in cabin. Nice to see anchor watch radar from bed.

LMychajluk
04-10-2012, 08:52 PM
In that case, I would just run 2 NSO processors, each running one of the helm screens. Then dupe one monitor from the helm in the cabin, and the other in the tower. Put one OP40 at the helm (can switch between controlling the 2 processors), one in the tower (I'd want control from there), and one in the cabin.

Justin009
04-11-2012, 08:19 AM
I'm confused??;?
You all are acting like hooking up a 19" monitor to a black box MFD is a new thing. Haven't Raymarine, Simrad and Furuno been doing this for years? You go to the boat shows and they are all hooking them up to 80" LCD panels. What's the big deal? ;?

Birdman
04-11-2012, 12:13 PM
I'm confused??;?
You all are acting like hooking up a 19" monitor to a black box MFD is a new thing. Haven't Raymarine, Simrad and Furuno been doing this for years? You go to the boat shows and they are all hooking them up to 80" LCD panels. What's the big deal? ;?

You can hook almost them ALL to remote monitors/TV's, as I have my 7215 displayed on my LCD TV in the cabin. BUT, you can't operate them from the TV/monitor. Well, actually in my case I have a rf remote that lets me operate the 7215 remotely while in the cabin. But you don't really get full, easy control as with the touchscreen, that's the problem. ;)


Speaking of this, to the OP, I have to tell you, I have the 15" 7215 on my helm, and it is actually too big sometimes. Your very close to it, and if you have ever stood close to yoru big screen TV, sometimes it can actually be too big. Especuially at night where ther backlighting can bother you. Just something to consider when thinking about 19"'s or larger....

rainmaking
04-11-2012, 03:02 PM
Lee: you are probably spot on with that config. Just thinking it might be nice to have touchscreen on tower.

Justin: no, black box isn't new...just think it is the best solution in this case for a clean helm. This considering the other quality options like a pair of 7215's. Also like Birdman says there sometimes are control issues as well as resolution issues and finding a bb solution with chirp and broadband radar isn't all that old.

Bman: as for the monitor size, I think your Rampage is side console. You probably are fairly close to the panel and the touchscreen is just right to view/use. In our center console setup you will have 3-4' from eyes to displays when seated. Note the 3 helm seats that should all have good views of helm info. It probably needs 19's on our helm to be reasonable. Touchscreen would require standing and leaning over to operate.

I need to figure out how to raise the wheel some for comfort without wrecking the look but that's another issue...

Justin009
04-11-2012, 04:55 PM
Okay, I think I get what you are saying, but I know when I bought my Navnet 3D 12" MFD, I really wanted the Navnet 3D Black Box, because it was faster than my 12". It has a separate keyboard, so you can operate the unit just like my MFD12, but at a distance. You can also use one Black Box and have two monitors connected to it. It's pretty cool.

Also, when I was at the Miami boatshow this year, I was checking out the new Furuno multi-touch screen product. They had a 23" multi-touch monitor connected to the small 9" unit and you could operate the entire system with this multi-touch computer monitor. I'm talking all of the functions that you could do directly on the unit, you could do on this remote monitor. It was fast too, just like you were working on the actual unit. Seems like that would be a pretty cool solution to having a remote station using a single unit and remote monitor. Plus you could use an iPad as another display that allowed full operation of the display. I think the marine electronics manufacturers are catching up to the computer industry and we all will be the beneficiaries of that! :thumbsup:

Lazy Bones
04-11-2012, 05:12 PM
Plus you could use an iPad as another display that allowed full operation of the display. I think the marine electronics manufacturers are catching up to the computer industry and we all will be the beneficiaries of that! :thumbsup:

What would be awesome is if the iPad could use all of the data from the MFD units, and function as an independent unit, rather than a mirror. I am sure that it would be easy to do, but no way will Simrad/Ray/Furuno want to lose sales of a second $3-7K display to a $700 iPad.

I would be satisfied if a third party source came out w/ a black box NEMA device that could output engine and gps data to an iPad. It would be very easy for a programmer to design an app that would display all of the engine data anyway the user desired. Clearly the big 3 aren't going to canabalize their MFD sales, but a smaller company like fusion or ICOM could make a major splash.

Justin009
04-12-2012, 08:17 AM
What would be awesome is if the iPad could use all of the data from the MFD units, and function as an independent unit, rather than a mirror. I am sure that it would be easy to do, but no way will Simrad/Ray/Furuno want to lose sales of a second $3-7K display to a $700 iPad.

I would be satisfied if a third party source came out w/ a black box NEMA device that could output engine and gps data to an iPad. It would be very easy for a programmer to design an app that would display all of the engine data anyway the user desired. Clearly the big 3 aren't going to canabalize their MFD sales, but a smaller company like fusion or ICOM could make a major splash.

Actually, Furuno has two applications for the iPad. One is the remote and although it is a mirror like you say, you can use it to fully operate the MFD. Not a true second "independent" station, but still pretty cool that you can fully operate the system. The second app shows all the different NEMA data in large data fields. You can actually use this app on your iphone as well. This app also allows you to show your fish finder screen on your ipad or iphone too. I spent quite a bit of time in their booth at the show checking it out, I'm telling you, it was pretty impressive.:thumbsup:

LMychajluk
04-12-2012, 09:12 AM
There are also NMEA gateways to put NEMA data on an ethernet network (and, by extension, WiFi). Here's one:
http://www.actisense.com/HTML/Products/Gateways/NMEA_2000_PC_Gateway_1/index.php

The drawback to the device above is that there's no native software to actually read (or send) the data (though they do provide some basic software). That would need to be written for your device (i.e. - iPad). It's also limited to NMEA data and won't allow viewing or control of a particular brand of devices (i.e. - Simrad's SS unit).

Here's an example of a device that reads the NMEA data and builds a web page around it, then serves it up on it's own internal web server. The web page in turn is accessable by any device w/ a browser (no custom software needed). It's one-way, but still kind of cool.
http://www.seasmart.net/marine-wireless-networking-wifi.html

Rainmaking - my one problem w/ the touchscreen in the tower would be that it would be the one station that has a different UI. My personal preference would be that the UI is consistant no matter where I'm controlling the system from, but that's just preference.

Birdman
04-12-2012, 09:28 AM
Bman: as for the monitor size, I think your Rampage is side console. You probably are fairly close to the panel and the touchscreen is just right to view/use. In our center console setup you will have 3-4' from eyes to displays when seated. Note the 3 helm seats that should all have good views of helm info. It probably needs 19's on our helm to be reasonable. Touchscreen would require standing and leaning over to operate.

Gotcha, makes sense.


I need to figure out how to raise the wheel some for comfort without wrecking the look but that's another issue...

I don't know if it will need to be raised, but you will definitely need a Tilt helm. ;)

What would be awesome is if the iPad could use all of the data from the MFD units, and function as an independent unit, rather than a mirror. I am sure that it would be easy to do, but no way will Simrad/Ray/Furuno want to lose sales of a second $3-7K display to a $700 iPad.

I would be satisfied if a third party source came out w/ a black box NEMA device that could output engine and gps data to an iPad. It would be very easy for a programmer to design an app that would display all of the engine data anyway the user desired. Clearly the big 3 aren't going to canabalize their MFD sales, but a smaller company like fusion or ICOM could make a major splash.

Just FYI, the roomer mill says Garmin is working on ipad apps for their new MFD's. I don't know anything about it, but have herd rumblings from several sources that usually seem to be correct.



Rainmaking - my one problem w/ the touchscreen in the tower would be that it would be the one station that has a different UI. My personal preference would be that the UI is consistant no matter where I'm controlling the system from, but that's just preference.

Agreed!!! I would NOT want different UI's on my boat. That drives me nuts. I have a hard enough time remembering the ONE UI that I have, and it's the easiest one on the market. ;)

rainmaking
04-12-2012, 07:13 PM
Great stuff about the nmea control/monitoring. At least a web page is OS-independent. Hope we can use czone to do control but can't find too much info on it yet. We were previously looking at finscan for this. I am still not sold on ipads for boat control. Things need to be bolted down on boats IMHO. Perhaps a black box android OS controller?

You guys are probably right about a different UI on the tower. Dual NSO is probably the best arrangement. Can you imagine trying to drag an iPad up the tower?....no thanks.

capecuddy
04-12-2012, 07:46 PM
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ColorchangeB
04-17-2012, 02:31 PM
I would go with two KEP Monitors, and Black Box Simrad system. KEPmarine.com

FourAngels
04-17-2012, 06:03 PM
We've have a pair of Garmin 7212's and absolutely love them (have chirp). To put it in comparison, we have just installed a WASSP system and still use the Garmins more because of it being so new and needing a bit of tweaking (the WASSP is amazing though).

If you are still debating what to buy, also consider that Furuno is coming out with the NavnetTZ. It will be out in a few months and playing with it at the boat show, it's night and day compared to any of the products out. Since it has a better chipset, the response time is incredibly fast compared to the Garmin or current Navnet (we have the blackbox and Navnet3D PC). Its features also look to be promising so you might want to wait and check those out before you go ahead and blow a few bucks on anything out right now. It will include iPod and iPad controls since a few on here like the idea of that.

Also, for monitors we have a pair of KEP's but have also had some VEI's in the past. I did like that the VEI's had all the source buttons right next to the screen, but the KEP's glass displays really do look that much better.

LMychajluk
04-17-2012, 06:43 PM
I would go with two KEP Monitors, and Black Box Simrad system. KEPmarine.com

Are you talking about the KepLite 'cost affective' (according to their website) monitor series? Does any of their stuff integrate w/ any of the SImrad units so that the buttons/touchscreen on the monitors control the Simrad modules, or are they just used as 'dumb' monitors?

rainmaking
04-17-2012, 07:10 PM
We are looking at KEP monitors and others. According to a panbo article, kep builds simrad's larger new displays. Lee, I don't think the NSS has an interface connection for an external touchscreen and the NSO doesn't have touchscreen software.

What is WASSP?

FourAngels
04-17-2012, 07:32 PM
Here's a post about it:
http://www.wassp.com/displaymodes/

http://www.thehulltruth.com/marine-electronics-forum/363943-furuno-wassp-sonar.html

So far, it has worked great and done its job. It also comes with a side program that works like a fish finder and finds all schools of fish (even shows you a size range) which has been pretty impressive. There is still room for improvement but since it's pretty new, we'll have to wait for more updates.

ColorchangeB
04-18-2012, 03:51 AM
http://www.panbo.com/

LMychajluk
04-18-2012, 07:37 AM
http://www.panbo.com/

I saw that article the other day, but isn't that setup using a standard PC as the processor to run the system?

Mad Fisher
08-12-2012, 12:31 PM
clean, simple, fast, and easy to use with full functionality!

Two Garmin 7215 displays, a GHP10 AP in them middle, a GSD26 Chirp Sounder module, a 4' or 6' open array, and lastly the GX51 Sat. WX module.

Done!!! Hope he's got a THICK wallet!!!! ;)


Just ordered pretty much this exact same package for my Fountain 38 SFC refit.

Hope the Garmin performance in real world holds up. Can't wait to find out.

Just wish it had more (ie wireless/bluetooth) connectivity or could add via NEMA 2000 network.



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