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NewMoon
03-27-2012, 11:49 AM
Been spending nearly $100.00 a week on the Dodge Ram 4x4 daily driver in fuel. I don't really need the truck any longer as I sold the boat several years ago and the 13-16 mpg around town is really starting to hurt.

I'm considering trading it in on a 2012 hyundai sonata, or ford fusion with the trade in value it is essentially 3k out of my pocket and my 06 Ram.

AAA predicts fuel to jump to $4.25 in April and possibly as high as $4.75 by summer. It is just getting tough to keep pumping fuel into this truck.

I feel like I am loosing my manhood though ;?


Boat Hound
03-27-2012, 11:54 AM
my .02, but for $3k just hold onto the truck and buy whatever as a daily driver. You'll miss the truck

thundra
03-27-2012, 12:03 PM
Sell, sell, sell.

I know lots of guys who had big, burly, FS trucks with Hemi's and every other V8 out there that only had it for the "image", they had NOTHING to either put in the bed or to tow, nothing. It was pretty funny as I talk to them. As it was costing them $100-200 a WEEK in fuel for their commute, the traded and have never looked back.

It would be tough to go to a Sonata or a Fusion but if you don't care, neither do we. When it comes down to it, I could care less what anyone else drives on the roads around me. Heck, I have a G8 GT with a 6.0L motor, I still think gas is cheap and plentiful.


NewMoon
03-27-2012, 12:10 PM
Sell, sell, sell.

I know lots of guys who had big, burly, FS trucks with Hemi's and every other V8 out there that only had it for the "image", they had NOTHING to either put in the bed or to tow, nothing. It was pretty funny as I talk to them. As it was costing them $100-200 a WEEK in fuel for their commute, the traded and have never looked back.

It would be tough to go to a Sonata or a Fusion but if you don't care, neither do we. When it comes down to it, I could care less what anyone else drives on the roads around me. Heck, I have a G8 GT with a 6.0L motor, I still think gas is cheap and plentiful.

You know when I purchased the truck it was used to pull the boat and I ran a side business out of it where I needed to carry alot of equipment. Both those needs are no longer there. While I love the truck it is nearly 7 yro now and to cut my fuel bill in half would sure be nice. I'm just concerned I will wish I hadn't done it after it's gone.

Wildwood_Jeff
03-27-2012, 12:14 PM
I feel like I am loosing my manhood though ;?

I would look at a v-6 Camaro or Mustang, get great mileage ( better then the truck) and hang onto your manhood.

08087
03-27-2012, 12:16 PM
Sell the truck. What I do is fill up my buddies truck when we drop my boat in and pull it in fall. He's greatful for the tank of gas and I am too for the use of a truck only when needed. Win win.

uncljohn
03-27-2012, 12:19 PM
Sell the truck. What I do is fill up my buddies truck when we drop my boat in and pull it in fall. He's greatful for the tank of gas and I am too for the use of a truck only when needed. Win win.

Make sure your buddy doesn't read this thread.....

Danny33486
03-27-2012, 12:23 PM
I am thinking of just getting a 10 year old mazda or Toyota to drive around and drive my truck once a week or so. They can be had for $3000 bucks or so.

JF Coastal
03-27-2012, 12:24 PM
I always make sure that I don't have that far of a commute to work... Truck & a bike work great for me.. I've done the hour long commute before... Never again, if I can help it..

If truck the isn't needed though, sell the truck. U-haul and home depot will always lend you theirs.

08087
03-27-2012, 12:27 PM
Make sure your buddy doesn't read this thread.....


Why's that? He gets $100 bucks worth of gas easy and we drive 3 blocks to drop the boat and pick her back out. Sounds like a rental to me.

tunatango123
03-27-2012, 12:51 PM
You will miss the truck. Had 2 friends do it and one is already back in a full size truck with the other not to far behind. You could get a commuter for 3k and park the truck and always sell it in a couple months. Dodge duallys dont last long on open market

240 LTS
03-27-2012, 01:05 PM
On the Nissan thread on the trucks and trailers board I just had this transaction.
Post #38.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/trucks-trailers/409678-nissan-frontier-2.html

I have been without a truck and I didn't realize how much I used it until I didn't have one.
Although it would be considered a "small" one to some, it still does what I need.

Have had full size F-150's but for a daily driver but my Nissan and other Toyota have served me very well.
Was leaning towards another full size to be able to tow the boat also but would not accept the bad mileage for everyday use.

Today is the third day of driving it to work and what a difference as expected.

Sold the Nissan (22mpg) last Friday for $1,000.00 cash with 317,000+ miles.
The phone rang off the hook from a craigslist add where I asked $900.00.
When I was on the way to make the sale another buyer offered $1,100.00.


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ReelNauti
03-27-2012, 01:07 PM
I parked my Durango a few years back and got a Corolla for a commuter car.

I still have need for the capacity of the Durango at times, plus the 4WD is helpful in the winter.

Since it was paid for it only costs insurance and maintenance to use. Of course I usually let it sit too long and something is broken or in need of replacement when I try to use it. Now it try to run it a least every 2 weeks.

swifty
03-27-2012, 01:25 PM
I am thinking of just getting a 10 year old mazda or Toyota to drive around and drive my truck once a week or so. They can be had for $3000 bucks or so.

Where? Or is it a true POS with 300K miles? ;? Seriously though I went shopping for used "something" and they damm sure are proud of used autos in today's market. Even more proud of Civics...

nickmo
03-27-2012, 01:28 PM
I sold my GMC p/u last time gas spiked. I bought a little Dodge Caliber. I'm really sorry I did it. Nothing wrong with the Caliber, just miss my pick up.

jobowker
03-27-2012, 01:31 PM
If you could purchase a gas membership card, good for as long as you own your vehicle, and this card cost $3,000 but allowed you to fill up your car at $3 off the current price of gas, would you do it? Payback would be in about 9 months.

If the answer is yes, then look into getting a car. I decided a few years ago that I'm confident enough in myself that I don't need a truck just to say I have a truck. With the decrease in fuel consumption, it will feel like you are buying gas for less than $1 per gallon.

In other words, if you are spending $100/wk for 26 gallons of gas, and your gas bill goes down to $36, it will feel like you're paying $1.60 per gallon. I sold my truck last year (after having nothing but trucks ever since I was 20) and I haven't looked back. If I really need a truck, I'll borrow or rent one.

I was driving a truck 100% of the time because I needed a truck less than 1% of the time. Now I drive a car, which makes much more sense as a daily driver. I've found ways to make due when I thought I needed a truck, and for the times that didn't work out, I borrowed one. to date, that has happened once in the 29,000 miles I have driven the car. Those miles in my truck would have cost me (29000miles/12 mpg*$3.95 gal) $9545.83! With the car, my fuel costs during that time have been $3318.33.

I don't drive as much as you, but so far my car has saved me $6,227.50. And that's with a car that doesn't get the best mileage.

Think of it this way. If you think losing a truck means losing your manhood, then you aren't very confident in your manhood! Keep in mind it took me years (decades) to admit this. :)

Bugbuster
03-27-2012, 01:45 PM
I can't even drive any more and I'm not selling my truck. I mean my dogs truck.

Danny33486
03-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Where? Or is it a true POS with 300K miles? ;? Seriously though I went shopping for used "something" and they damm sure are proud of used autos in today's market. Even more proud of Civics...

I just did a bit of looking online. have not really gone out looking too hard. I would look for maybe a mazda Protege, or something like that 100K + miles. on it. My truck is a 2011 I would keep it and just drive it 1 or 2 days per week. Save the miles on it and the gas. I am sure car will not be "ascetically pleasing"

triguy7
03-27-2012, 02:25 PM
Where? Or is it a true POS with 300K miles? ;? Seriously though I went shopping for used "something" and they damm sure are proud of used autos in today's market. Even more proud of Civics...



Gotta look a little. I bought a 1996 Toyota Tacoma last week for $750.00

Original owner, no rust, good tires, good air, everything works as it should (will need clutch soon), 246,000 miles. First tank of gas got me 24.24 mpg.

swifty
03-27-2012, 02:38 PM
Thanks guys and I'm still looking... :thumbsup:

And NewMoon - I'd keep your truck, at least that's what I'm going to do with mine when I find a car.

glacierbaze
03-27-2012, 02:46 PM
Gotta look a little. I bought a 1996 Toyota Tacoma last week for $750.00

Original owner, no rust, good tires, good air, everything works as it should (will need clutch soon), 246,000 miles. First tank of gas got me 24.24 mpg.

I'll give you $800;)

Ray Zor
03-27-2012, 03:22 PM
C'mon high gas prices! I'll be looking for a new (slightly used) full sized F150 or Z71. Best time to buy. 1/2 price of sticker for a full size 1-2 years old.

Mofugga
03-27-2012, 05:35 PM
I would look at a v-6 Camaro or Mustang, get great mileage ( better then the truck) and hang onto your manhood.


A V6 Mustang or Camero is holding on to your manhood;? I guess in NJ that depends on how many gold chains you wear around your neck:grin:.


I'd keep the truck and buy a cheap commuter car. That's what I did a couple years ago. I put about about a 100 miles a month on my '07 2500 Diesel 4X4. But, I still need a truck and will for the foreseeable future.

gf
03-27-2012, 07:33 PM
Don, you might get $13K in trade for your truck, how are you going to buy a new Sonata or Fusion for $3K out of pocket?

CaptKennyW
03-27-2012, 07:40 PM
I have a 94 Bronco with a 351 in it. At best it gets 15mpg. It now resides in the back yard behind my fence. I wont sell the Bronco but my daily driver is now a 94 Nissan D21 pickup with a 5 speed with a mere 54,000 miles that my grandad generously gave to me a few months ago. I sold my boat last summer as well. I couldnt afford to feed 2 200HP Yamahas any longer. I miss it but I dont miss getting gas for it.

Brad1
03-27-2012, 07:55 PM
You know when I purchased the truck it was used to pull the boat and I ran a side business out of it where I needed to carry alot of equipment. Both those needs are no longer there. While I love the truck it is nearly 7 yro now and to cut my fuel bill in half would sure be nice. I'm just concerned I will wish I hadn't done it after it's gone.

I'm in a similar situation and I'm hanging on to my truck. I have an '05 Nissan Titan that I bought new. I used it to tow my Grady White to / from Lake Erie every year. It's been garage kept for all but the 1st two years, and only has 26k miles on it. Though I don't have my boat anymore, the truck's paid off and I probably couldn't get 1/2 what I paid for it. A few month's after I bought my truck, I bought a '94 Toyota Corolla for my daily driver. I got the Corolla for $1,500 with 105k miles on it. I put 40k miles on the Corolla with very little in the way of repairs needed. I still have the Corolla. Kept it for my Son. It's still in great shape. Very little rust. I picked up an '07 Accord year before last to be my current daily driver.

The only PITA about the Corolla is that it's ODB1. Here in PA, they have emissions inspections, but everyone's ODB1 equipment has gone kaput, and it's not worth any local garage's expense to repair it because there's not many ODB1 cars around.

But when weather permits, I prefer commuting on two wheels.

GWcpa
03-27-2012, 07:55 PM
Looks like 2008 all over again. Amazing how car choices change 180 degrees with a 30% increase in fuel costs.

Looks like trucks and SUV will plummet in value once again while small cars come back in style.

Diesel at 5 bucks is going to run the HD pickups into the ground again. :(

Mr. Paul
03-27-2012, 08:28 PM
If you trade or sell you are selling or trading at the exact wrong time. Gas goes up people dump their trucks. Gas goes down people buy trucks. I don't understand why but it happens. So throw the book away the market on these things are changing daily not weekly or monthly. Just remember you are not the only one dumping right now and the dealers are not to enthused to get low MPG trucks on the their lots. This gas thing is going to last a lot longer than the last one.

NewMoon
03-28-2012, 05:45 AM
Don, you might get $13K in trade for your truck, how are you going to buy a new Sonata or Fusion for $3K out of pocket?

Hey GF, been to three dealerships so far, Ford dealership has offered 16k on it, Hyundai 16K, and the Honda 16.5K, my truck only has 45,000 miles on it and is in great condition. I'm buying through USAA program so the discounted purchase prices are pretty much locked with their program

It's a hard decision last night I was leaning towards just keeping the truck, this morning I wake up and watch the news where the fuel prices jumped another .12 cents in a few cities overnight. I know the $4.25 is coming soon, so the $100.00 a week will turn into $115.00.

notgottaboatyet
03-28-2012, 06:40 AM
I think I'm going to keep my old truck bc I need the ext cab for the family and get 2 wheels for nice weather riding. I'm thinking Dr650 with some street tires at 60 mpg at 75. I'm15 min from work. If anything I'll sell the truck if I can and get a crew cab if prices drop far enough.

cfarmd
03-28-2012, 06:46 AM
Sold my full size sierra january of 2011 and got a civic the fuel savings alone makes the car payment every month. I borrow my dads truck if needed. Yes I would prefer to still be driving my truck but I sure don't miss the pain at the pump. Im looking to buy a used truck in the next year or so for towing the boat and the dog

PS I bought my civic brand new thru USAAs car buying service for about 4.5k off sticker price

cfarmd
03-28-2012, 07:13 AM
C'mon high gas prices! I'll be looking for a new (slightly used) full sized F150 or Z71. Best time to buy. 1/2 price of sticker for a full size 1-2 years old.

Great minds think alike! Same idea for buying trucks and same tastes in boats (I have an 84 Biddison 1800, if you ever decide to sell let me know)

coores14
03-28-2012, 07:26 AM
this a great time for someone in my situation. I have a '73 F100 that gets about 12.5mpg at 55mph on the highway. I can really go nowhere but up with MPG, so looking to get into a more modern truck is a great idea right now as everyone will be dumping theirs. I don't plan on selling my truck, nor do I need something to tow with. But I do need a truck bed to carry stuff. anything from a VW Rabbit truck diesel to a modern 1500 size V-8 would work for me. My daily driver is actually a 2011 Vespa LX50 scooter. gets about 72mpg. But any time I need to leave town or get on the highway, I'm stuck with my gorgeous gas hog of a pickup.

jrolin1
03-28-2012, 07:56 AM
Coores14 - I was in a similar position and had a small pickup to haul stuff occasionally. I wound up buying a small utility trailer and just put a hitch on a car. No it can't tow much but I don't need to carry more than a small pickup could anyway.

coores14
03-28-2012, 08:26 AM
Coores14 - I was in a similar position and had a small pickup to haul stuff occasionally. I wound up buying a small utility trailer and just put a hitch on a car. No it can't tow much but I don't need to carry more than a small pickup could anyway.

I use the pickup bed every weekend for carrying my rods, coolers, other fishing gear, home depot runs, etc... I'd rather not have a trailer to pull around town and try to park and what not.

My truck still runs great and all, but the A/C is broken and the fuel mileage is horrendous. Not to mention, the truck is almost 40 years old. For those times when I actually need to leave the keys (vacation, hurricane evacuations, etc), I want something that is highway worthy and a little more comfortable. Some say I should just rent a car when that happens, but that's just not me. Plus, it's a pain in the butt to coordinate it all. I want to get in to MY vehicle that's in MY driveway.

gf
03-28-2012, 08:50 AM
Hey GF, been to three dealerships so far, Ford dealership has offered 16k on it, Hyundai 16K, and the Honda 16.5K, my truck only has 45,000 miles on it and is in great condition. I'm buying through USAA program so the discounted purchase prices are pretty much locked with their program

It's a hard decision last night I was leaning towards just keeping the truck, this morning I wake up and watch the news where the fuel prices jumped another .12 cents in a few cities overnight. I know the $4.25 is coming soon, so the $100.00 a week will turn into $115.00.


If you can really get $16K or more for your truck in trade I would jump all over that, even if you were buying another truck! That's a retail value for that truck here in New England, never mind wholesale.

Still not sure what kind of Sonata or Fusion you can buy for only $19K, but it sounds liek you are doing your homework.

I am curious about the math, however. How are you burning $100 per week in gas? Has your commute changed recently? If you only have 45K miles on a 5+ year old truck, that means less than 200 miles per week. Assuming 13 MPG and $4.25 per gallon that's still only $65 per week.

I went through this exact same exercise in 2008 when gas prices skyrocketed. I had a 2004 Nissan Titan (14 MPG) and a 2003 VW GTI (22 MPG) at that time and I was driving 22,000 miles per year. I sold them both and bought a new 2008 Subaru Outback XT (21 MPG). However, 2 years later gas prices had come down and my requirements had changed a bit and I sold the the Subaru and bought a new Toyota Tundra CrewMax.

I'm probably driving 16,000 miles per year now and the Tundra averages about 15.5 MPG. I'm not planning any changes for now. Next year I'll add a car to the fleet for my teenage sons to use, or I'll drive that car and my boys will use the truck.

jrolin1
03-28-2012, 08:59 AM
I use the pickup bed every weekend for carrying my rods, coolers, other fishing gear, home depot runs, etc... I'd rather not have a trailer to pull around town and try to park and what not.

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I understand and I don't use the trailer as much as you would. My daily driver is a convertible Sebring. You would be surprised what you can haul with your top down. :) I have carried 2x6x12 lumber and long fishing rods. Last week I hauled 6 PT boards and 4 80 pound bags of concrete in my convertible. You just have to be ready for rain. :grin:

NewMoon
03-28-2012, 10:28 AM
If you can really get $16K or more for your truck in trade I would jump all over that, even if you were buying another truck! That's a retail value for that truck here in New England, never mind wholesale.

Still not sure what kind of Sonata or Fusion you can buy for only $19K, but it sounds liek you are doing your homework.

I am curious about the math, however. How are you burning $100 per week in gas? Has your commute changed recently? If you only have 45K miles on a 5+ year old truck, that means less than 200 miles per week. Assuming 13 MPG and $4.25 per gallon that's still only $65 per week.

I went through this exact same exercise in 2008 when gas prices skyrocketed. I had a 2004 Nissan Titan (14 MPG) and a 2003 VW GTI (22 MPG) at that time and I was driving 22,000 miles per year. I sold them both and bought a new 2008 Subaru Outback XT (21 MPG). However, 2 years later gas prices had come down and my requirements had changed a bit and I sold the the Subaru and bought a new Toyota Tundra CrewMax.

I'm probably driving 16,000 miles per year now and the Tundra averages about 15.5 MPG. I'm not planning any changes for now. Next year I'll add a car to the fleet for my teenage sons to use, or I'll drive that car and my boys will use the truck.
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Not sure about New England but the offers so far fall in line with what KBB gives me, the range 15k-17k. With the incentives out there on the base models for the cars I am looking at pricing is in the 19K range. I use the truck for more than work, so the mileage is a bit more lately than when I 1st bought it. But I can tell you my math says approx $100.00 a week, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less.

The Wife has a new Honda mini-van so we can haul some things with it if need be. I guess what it comes down to is I want a truck, I don't need a truck. So is the "want" worth paying double fuel expenses? Not sure on it yet :)

RussH
03-28-2012, 04:38 PM
My wife's daily driver was a Yukon Denali XL with all wheel drive, it gets 12-13MPG. My wife has no intention of selling it, and I need it to pull my small boat. I also use it to put my bigger boat in the water and pull it out at the end of the season.

We recently purchased a Cadillac CTS that she drives in the summer. Even though it's all wheel drive it still gets 24MPG. We purchased it because the gas savings alone pays over 1/3 of the car payment. I would prefer she drives it all the time instead of storing it in the winter.

Russ

cfarmd
03-28-2012, 06:20 PM
I'll be honest, I was always a "buy american" type of guy but you simply cannot beat the longevity of honda. I fully expect to put 200k miles on my civic, it had 320 when I got it. I upgraded to a 100k 7 year bumper to bumper warranty for $890 and my total price out the door was just under $18k. Keep in mind that the sticker price was $21.5k and the car has every option except leather seats. Sure, it sucks feeling like a pansy driving a civic, but i consistently get 32-35 mpg driving both in town and on the highway. Compare that to my sierra which was lucky to see 17-18 and I get over it real quick. I change the oil every 4k miles and run lucas fuel stabilizer at every fill-up.

I'm going to be looking for something 3-5 years old with hopefully 30k miles or less. I really want a crew cab for the extra space. I do need something to tow the boat, and I want to get a bigger boat eventually. I've been eying the tundra with the 5.7, but it will most likely come down to price in the end. I have seen some very nice used trucks with very low mileage selling for 23-25k. Good luck, just thought I would share my experience and intentions

baker2605
03-29-2012, 02:56 AM
If you need a sports car or truck to hang onto your manhood you never really had it in the first place. Keep the truck and buy a beater.

NewMoon
03-29-2012, 05:38 AM
Then again maybe I should just do what Obama suggested, inflate my tires, get a tune-up and all my fuel problems will be over :)

NCcarguy
03-29-2012, 05:44 AM
^^ Thats my plan. You gotta admit, he has the answer to everything!

DoubleO7
03-29-2012, 11:02 AM
I use the pickup bed every weekend for carrying my rods, coolers, other fishing gear, home depot runs, etc... I'd rather not have a trailer to pull around town and try to park and what not.

My truck still runs great and all, but the A/C is broken and the fuel mileage is horrendous. Not to mention, the truck is almost 40 years old. .

I hope your at least taking advantage of it's age via "antique" plates and minimum insurance on it.

coores14
03-29-2012, 12:04 PM
I hope your at least taking advantage of it's age via "antique" plates and minimum insurance on it.

yup

baypro21
03-29-2012, 12:54 PM
I hope to drive and fish more this year. I'm not caving into the lifestyle "they" want me to have. I've had to increase the rates for my business though. If this is very low inflation I'd hate to see it when the gov't actually admits to having some. ;?

magua
03-29-2012, 04:17 PM
Looks like 2008 all over again. Amazing how car choices change 180 degrees with a 30% increase in fuel costs.

Looks like trucks and SUV will plummet in value once again while small cars come back in style.

Diesel at 5 bucks is going to run the HD pickups into the ground again. :(

Looks like yes I agree when you look at the price at the pump as in 2008.

Sounds like... I do not agree with and that is what is scaring me. People seem to be more conditioned as in not much shock n awe this time around. Sometimes being thru the rodeo is not a good thing.

If it keeps going at this pace we will see where the breaking point is however.

fish tales 204
03-31-2012, 10:01 AM
i have my truck when i need it but i also bought a cheap 1998 toyota camry great around town ,if i where you i would look in to buying a cheap car and you get to keep your truck

miike
03-31-2012, 10:27 AM
My truck has been sidelined for months. A 6000lb 12 mpg Mercedes V8 SUV. Been driving my Chevy LUV around and I like it. Dont care if the dog get its muddy. I don't care if someone dings it's doors. I don't mind leaving it overnight in crappy areas. It won't tow my boat though and I'm considering buying a sailboat for the summer that mt LUV could tow. $5 gal gas worth it when I can sail for free?

One thing: trucks are safer than cars/tiny trucks.

Wolakrab
03-31-2012, 01:52 PM
Dunno if I'd sell the truck. I drive a Jetta TDI, and I sometimes wish I had a truck to use for carrying loads(lumber, mulch, etc...). At some point, I'll probably buy an old beater to use as a hauler. The way things are going, anything that gets crappy fuel economy is going to take a huge hit on resale or trade-in...you will probably be able to get a great deal on a full-size truck when gas hits $5.00/gallon. Which it will by year's end...

slickcav
03-31-2012, 02:13 PM
Dunno if I'd sell the truck. I drive a Jetta TDI, and I sometimes wish I had a truck to use for carrying loads(lumber, mulch, etc...). At some point, I'll probably buy an old beater to use as a hauler. The way things are going, anything that gets crappy fuel economy is going to take a huge hit on resale or trade-in...you will probably be able to get a great deal on a full-size truck when gas hits $5.00/gallon. Which it will by year's end...

I had a golf TDI hatchback for my senior year of college a few years ago, 80+mile commute one way to nursing clinical was wayyy to scary in a lifted wrangler on 35's, and fuel drinking.

should of never sold it, 40$ to fill it up, 52mpg best tank. now I have a sierra 1500, but deer hunt/duck hunt/need to come to work even if theres 9 feet of snow on the road (mandatory personel) so that was my justification. Now.. hopefully next week were picking up this Sea Cat SL1, and it will do some towing..

Ray Zor
03-31-2012, 03:26 PM
Great minds think alike! Same idea for buying trucks and same tastes in boats (I have an 84 Biddison 1800, if you ever decide to sell let me know):thumbsup:
I had an 1988 1800cc Biddison prior to my 2200. Great boat. A real tank. I will let you know if I ever decide to sell my 22'. I am in the process of trying to decide on buying a newer "family friendlier " boat like a deck boat. Mine is a 1987 w/orig 225 Johnson. Runs great but a real gas hog!

cfarmd
04-01-2012, 07:38 PM
:thumbsup:
I had an 1988 1800cc Biddison prior to my 2200. Great boat. A real tank. I will let you know if I ever decide to sell my 22'. I am in the process of trying to decide on buying a newer "family friendlier " boat like a deck boat. Mine is a 1987 w/orig 225 Johnson. Runs great but a real gas hog!

well I am very interested if you sell! good luck!



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