Dockside Chat - Nick Lindsey guilty of first degree murder of SPPD officer

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slapshot
03-23-2012, 04:52 PM
http://baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2012/3/23/verdict_expected_tod

This POS killed my friend, I hope his lifetime in prison is miserable.


Shag
03-23-2012, 04:57 PM
It's a shame that it is only life in prison. Very sorry for your friend and his family. :(

Uncas
03-23-2012, 05:10 PM
One more out of circulation for life.......hope he enjoys being Bubba's bitch.......!!!


triumphrick
03-23-2012, 05:11 PM
This is a copy of the wife speaking at the trial...

"To you, the animal that sits before me, and I lose this term very loosely, you claim to be this scared little boy who comes from the rough streets of south St. Pete, in a community that failed you. But let me tell you, I come from the same streets of south St. Pete ... low-income family and without many opportunities available to others.
"But unlike you, I didn’t carry a gun and shoot and kill another human being, nor blame anyone for my choices or actions. And you sit in this courtroom that was supposed to deliver justice. But to me. justice would be for me to do to you physically what you did to my husband.
"So the role you’ve been playing, scared little boy, be very afraid, because you’re going to prison, where people are tortured, raped and, yes, lose their life. And this time, mommy and daddy cannot run to your aid and help you.
"So, I want you to know when these things happen to you it, will still fall very short of the pain I feel every day for what you have taken from me. You are not worth remembering any more after I walk out of this courtroom today, except for the day I get to read your obituary, and then, maybe, I will find peace within this nightmare I relive every day."


The officer was a veteran police officer with 25 years on the force. And this useless POS shot him down and killed him...one shot hit him right in his back.



If I remember, he was not wearing his vest...

meii
03-23-2012, 05:37 PM
Guilty.

Sorry about your friend slapshot.

Jonesy23
03-23-2012, 05:39 PM
Can't believe he didn't get the death penalty.

jpdeg
03-23-2012, 05:44 PM
I'm sorry for your friend and his wife.

Her words sum it up pretty well. Hopefully she can find some peace.

saltwaters
03-23-2012, 05:44 PM
Can't believe he didn't get the death penalty.

X10

Liberals at work once again.

CaptKennyW
03-23-2012, 08:29 PM
Can't believe he didn't get the death penalty.


Me too, I thought killing a cop was a capital offense.

Eyeball
03-23-2012, 08:59 PM
Me too, I thought killing a cop was a capital offense.



If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death. How much, if any, fault for the officer's death was the officer's by choosing not to wear a vest, if it is normally appropriate to wear one, that kind of thing. I don't know anything about the shooting so I can't say. In general, I am opposed to the idea of shooting a cop or a politician or a judge being a capital offense. I think shooting anyone should be a capital offense ... an automatic death sentence.

Cracker
03-23-2012, 09:15 PM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death. How much, if any, fault for the officer's death was the officer's by choosing not to wear a vest, if it is normally appropriate to wear one, that kind of thing. I don't know anything about the shooting so I can't say. In general, I am opposed to the idea of shooting a cop or a politician or a judge being a capital offense. I think shooting anyone should be a capital offense ... an automatic death sentence.

This has NO place here!!!!! Whether the officer was wearing a vest or not does not excuse a POS from shooting someone... I am so pissed right now that you posted this kind of comment, I cant see straight..

Slapshot I am very sorry for your loss and the families loss.... I cant imagine..

rcs1039
03-23-2012, 09:16 PM
I am sorry for your loss and the loss of a love one to a family. May the sub human burn in hell when he leaves his natural life in prison.

Mr. Demeanor
03-23-2012, 09:27 PM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death. How much, if any, fault for the officer's death was the officer's by choosing not to wear a vest, if it is normally appropriate to wear one, that kind of thing. I don't know anything about the shooting so I can't say. In general, I am opposed to the idea of shooting a cop or a politician or a judge being a capital offense. I think shooting anyone should be a capital offense ... an automatic death sentence.

:roll Im friggen speachless for the first time ever on THT. Nothing good can come from me commenting.

Reel 007
03-23-2012, 09:27 PM
Can't believe he didn't get the death penalty.


He was sixteen when the crime was committed, I don't think we sentence minors to death in this country.

Then again, Florida as some pretty primitive laws.

CaptKennyW
03-23-2012, 09:46 PM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death. How much, if any, fault for the officer's death was the officer's by choosing not to wear a vest, if it is normally appropriate to wear one, that kind of thing. I don't know anything about the shooting so I can't say. In general, I am opposed to the idea of shooting a cop or a politician or a judge being a capital offense. I think shooting anyone should be a capital offense ... an automatic death sentence.

A cop is a cop is a cop. I dont see where his wearing or not wearing of a vest has anything to do with the fact that he was murdered. They didnt have vests 25 years ago and it was still a Capital Offense to kill a cop. And yes I agree with you on the eye for an eye thing.

CaptKennyW
03-23-2012, 09:49 PM
Then again, Florida as some pretty primitive laws.

I didnt know what to think when I saw this comment, then I noticed where you are from and then I LOL'd.

Kalifornia... :rofl::rofl:

Bruce W
03-23-2012, 10:07 PM
http://baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2012/3/23/verdict_expected_tod

This POS killed my friend, I hope his lifetime in prison is miserable.

So sorry for your loss! :( Glad the cop's wife said her peace! :thumbsup:

The "life without parole" will probably end up with him being killed in prison (I'll give that about 1 year). If he had been sentenced to death (according to the article not possible because he was a "minor" - couldn't he have been tried as an adult due to the nature of the crime?), he'd probably hang around for 6, 8, 10 YEARS with the appeals process. ;?

So, he'll probably "die" quicker with the life sentance than he would with the death penalty. :thumbsup:

SCUM, regardless! :mad:

Regards,

Hooper
03-23-2012, 10:48 PM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death. How much, if any, fault for the officer's death was the officer's by choosing not to wear a vest, if it is normally appropriate to wear one, that kind of thing. I don't know anything about the shooting so I can't say. In general, I am opposed to the idea of shooting a cop or a politician or a judge being a capital offense. I think shooting anyone should be a capital offense ... an automatic death sentence.

Eyeball, you are a friggin' moron. A POS points a gun at a cops back and pulls the trigger killing him and the cop has blame in this???

You are THT's biggest effin' moron

Shag
03-24-2012, 04:06 AM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death.

Well, you just showed your true character, [edit]. Please make your way to the fallen officer's home and say that same thing to his family's face. [edit].


Edited by mod to remove profanity

notgottaboatyet
03-24-2012, 06:29 AM
He was sixteen when the crime was committed, I don't think we sentence minors to death in this country.

Then again, Florida as some pretty primitive laws.

Please stay on that side of the country.

Sorry for your loss. Keep tabs on him see if he gets bought as a sex slave in his prison.

Shag
03-24-2012, 06:42 AM
Please stay on that side of the country.



No shit. Between Reel 007 and Eyehole I don't think I have ever seen two colder hearts. It's just pitiful.

Belzelbub
03-24-2012, 07:14 AM
Slapshot,
Very sorry for the loss of your friend. I remember this story well. Rough month for SPPD when this happened.

slapshot
03-24-2012, 03:39 PM
Since the little POS was 16 when he killed Dave, he cannot get the death penalty, only life without parole. It doesn't matter if Dave wore his vest or not, that doesn't give someone the right to shoot you. That kid shot him 5 times, once in the back.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts. 2011 was a terrible year for SPPD. I used to work there before changing departments and I knew all 3 officers that were killed. We lost a retired SPPD officer right after Dave's murder in an accident at home. I can only pray we NEVER have to go through this again.

triumphrick
03-24-2012, 04:01 PM
I am sorry for my post about his vest.

I am also truly sorry you lost a friend and comrade in the department.

As far as eyeball and reel007, this is an open forum where idiots like them get to spew their crap...the ignore button keeps me from seeing much of it, thank God...

stiverp
03-24-2012, 07:25 PM
Sorry for your loss.... and btw I didn't hear a speech from the Rev. Sharpton or the Rev. Jackson about this, none of them organized a million uniform march for him. Wonder why???

Wish his family comfort and peace.

jrolin1
03-25-2012, 09:28 AM
I am sorry for your loss Slapshot. I hope the dirtbag has a short stay in prison and is quickly paroled into a pine box.

Wolakrab
03-25-2012, 09:31 AM
Slapshot, sorry for your and the family's loss.
Eyeball, man up and post an apology for your ridiculous and unwise comment.

HDTBC
03-25-2012, 09:35 AM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death. How much, if any, fault for the officer's death was the officer's by choosing not to wear a vest, if it is normally appropriate to wear one, that kind of thing. I don't know anything about the shooting so I can't say. In general, I am opposed to the idea of shooting a cop or a politician or a judge being a capital offense. I think shooting anyone should be a capital offense ... an automatic death sentence.

Wow.....you must really hate yourself to post something like this. It must suck to be you.

RIP to the deceased, and God bless his family and friends for their loss.

Hollywood9s
03-25-2012, 10:30 AM
Slapshot, my deepest condolences. I've been there and know how you feel.
These douchebags deserve nothing less tha a short piece of rope and a tall tree.

Marlin009
03-25-2012, 03:00 PM
May his rot in hell start very soon. Hopefully the time until then is most unpleasent. Sorry about your friend and his family slapshot. I remember when this happened.

Eyeball - really??? Unbelievable man.

Mac53
03-25-2012, 03:07 PM
He was sixteen when the crime was committed, I don't think we sentence minors to death in this country. Then again, Florida as some pretty primitive laws.

Yes, you are correct, primitive laws are needed when your dealing with primitive people!

Ntrain2k
03-25-2012, 03:42 PM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death. How much, if any, fault for the officer's death was the officer's by choosing not to wear a vest, if it is normally appropriate to wear one, that kind of thing. I don't know anything about the shooting so I can't say. In general, I am opposed to the idea of shooting a cop or a politician or a judge being a capital offense. I think shooting anyone should be a capital offense ... an automatic death sentence.

Seriously?

http://static.divbyzero.nl/facepalm/doublefacepalm.jpg

jaredsrt
03-25-2012, 06:07 PM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death. How much, if any, fault for the officer's death was the officer's by choosing not to wear a vest, if it is normally appropriate to wear one, that kind of thing.

Really? This is a joke right? You think an officers choice of gear has something - ANYTHING - to do with some POS making the decision to kill an officer?

Shag
03-25-2012, 06:14 PM
This is a joke right?

Nope. Not a joke for Eyehole. He showed his true colors. Thats why I put the low life on my ignore list immediately after his post. Same with reel 007.

Slapshot, sorry these distractions have taken attention away from the loss of your friend.

Eyeball
03-25-2012, 09:46 PM
Well, ...



SHAG, you publicly displayed an incredible lack of judgement, lack of character, and lack of personal control ... and you questioned my character? ;?

Cracker
03-25-2012, 09:49 PM
SHAG, you publicly displayed an incredible lack of judgement, lack of character, and lack of personal control ... and you questioned my character? ;?

You are not worth the effort, piss poor excuse for a human being, you are..

Eyeball
03-25-2012, 10:12 PM
You think an officers choice of gear has something - ANYTHING - to do with some POS making the decision to kill an officer?

Nope. But it may have something to do with his cause of death. ;)

I have 2 questions for those gentle readers that are so quick to jump to judgement over my post:

1 - would a bullet proof vest have saved the officer's life, and of so, why was he not wearing it?

2 - is there any reason to believe the officer knew the job (of being a cop in that neighborhood) is dangerous, and that danger could be mitigated, in part, by wearing a vest that is available to be worn?


If the answer to both of questions is "yes", then the office is responsible, in part, for his own death.

It doesn't matter if it is a cop, a highrise window washer, a construction worker, or someone working on a 'Deadliest Catch' crab boat -- if safety equipment is available to you, and you choose not to use it, you have some responsibility of any injury you received. Each and every person has an obligation to reasonably protect themselves.

A highrise window washer is washing windows 50-floors up ... the platform shifts (for whatever reason), the window washer slides off and dies. YOU ARE ON THE JURY ... did the shifting platform cause his death, or did the fact that the window washer chose not to wear the safety harness after being educated to the dangers involved and the value of the safety harness, which would have saved his life, factor into his death?

Ridiculous
03-25-2012, 10:12 PM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death. How much, if any, fault for the officer's death was the officer's by choosing not to wear a vest, if it is normally appropriate to wear one, that kind of thing. I don't know anything about the shooting so I can't say. In general, I am opposed to the idea of shooting a cop or a politician or a judge being a capital offense. I think shooting anyone should be a capital offense ... an automatic death sentence.

I seldom have much to post about but I cannot let this one go. The stupidity of Eyeball’s comment is incomprehensible to me. Whether an officer has a vest on or not has absolutely nothing to do with the cause of death. The cause solely lies with the POS that shot the officer. Eyeball and all the other idiots who think like him are just as bad if not worse than the POS that killed this officer.

My condolences to Slapshot and the officer’s family.

Eyeball
03-25-2012, 10:35 PM
You are not worth the effort, piss poor excuse for a human being, you are..


Nonetheless, this is your wake up call, Cracker -- put on the vest, and be safe. I don't get called to jury duty often, but when I do it is to Superior court for capital crimes of this nature. No idea how I got on the list. :grin:

Cracker
03-25-2012, 11:03 PM
Nonetheless, this is your wake up call, Cracker -- put on the vest, and be safe. I don't get called to jury duty often, but when I do it is to Superior court for capital crimes of this nature. No idea how I got on the list. :grin:

Your wake up call....I could give a warm bucket of PISS what you think... To even try and associate an officer not having a vest on to being responsible for his murder shows your real ignorance and YOUR just part of the problem....I will not respond to ANYTHING you post again ... I would like to see you say those things to the dead offcier's family you gutless computer commando..

Eyeball
03-25-2012, 11:29 PM
I will not respond to ANYTHING you post again ...



Nonetheless ... ;)

jaredsrt
03-26-2012, 08:24 AM
Nope. But it may have something to do with his cause of death. ;)

I have 2 questions for those gentle readers that are so quick to jump to judgement over my post:

1 - would a bullet proof vest have saved the officer's life, and of so, why was he not wearing it?

2 - is there any reason to believe the officer knew the job (of being a cop in that neighborhood) is dangerous, and that danger could be mitigated, in part, by wearing a vest that is available to be worn?


If the answer to both of questions is "yes", then the office is responsible, in part, for his own death.

It doesn't matter if it is a cop, a highrise window washer, a construction worker, or someone working on a 'Deadliest Catch' crab boat -- if safety equipment is available to you, and you choose not to use it, you have some responsibility of any injury you received. Each and every person has an obligation to reasonably protect themselves.

A highrise window washer is washing windows 50-floors up ... the platform shifts (for whatever reason), the window washer slides off and dies. YOU ARE ON THE JURY ... did the shifting platform cause his death, or did the fact that the window washer chose not to wear the safety harness after being educated to the dangers involved and the value of the safety harness, which would have saved his life, factor into his death?

You sir are a tool. Welcome to ignore list.

njbassr
03-26-2012, 11:16 AM
He doesn't deserve to be called sir. I'm sorry the op had to read his stupid comments.

23Dorado
03-26-2012, 11:41 AM
If I were a juror and there was evidence the officer did not wear a vest when one was provided I would be inclined to weigh that in determining the cause of death.

Thankfully you're only a person with a keyboard and an internet connection.

Ntrain2k
03-26-2012, 01:52 PM
Hopefully someone like him is in on the jury trial if one of his family members gets killed by a drunk driver and the family member was not wearing a seat belt.

Hooper
03-27-2012, 03:43 AM
Eyeball, I think you may be confusing civil liability with criminal responsibility. Shooting someone is a crime, tried in criminal court. The window washer who falls off staging will bring forth a civil case (if he lives) to seek damages.

See, it's apples & oranges...

It's people such as youself that cause me to have little faith in the jury system because some people just aren't smart enough for the job.

Eyeball
03-27-2012, 06:37 AM
Eyeball, I think you may be confusing civil liability with criminal responsibility. Shooting someone is a crime, tried in criminal court. The window washer who falls off staging will bring forth a civil case (if he lives) to seek damages.




I hear what you are saying.

Two window washers on a platform, one wearing a safety harness, one not. The one with the harness pushes the other guy off the platform. If the guy that fell off had been wearing his safety harness he would not have fallen to his death. By choosing not to wear a safety harness in a dangerous environment, does he have any culpability in his own death?

Note: I am not saying the guy that pushed him is any less responsible for his actions.

FinDeep
03-27-2012, 06:48 AM
Your thought process is amazing. You don't deserve the liberties you obtain from the people that are willing to go out there every night and risk life and limb for you. You should be thankful, not blaming. Make this comparison to the family, make this comparison to every mother, father, son, and daughter that is serving in our armed forces. Because they sign up voluntarily, are they to be blamed too?

Eyeball
03-27-2012, 07:03 AM
... Because they sign up voluntarily, are they to be blamed too?



Try and stay focused. :roll

Singing up isn't what causes harm. Not using the appropriate safety equipment does.

Ntrain2k
03-27-2012, 07:25 AM
Try and stay focused. :roll

Singing up isn't what causes harm. Not using the appropriate safety equipment does.

That applies to this as well then, right?

Hopefully someone like him is in on the jury trial if one of his family members gets killed by a drunk driver and the family member was not wearing a seat belt.

:roll

triplenet
03-27-2012, 07:40 AM
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jrolin1
03-27-2012, 07:43 AM
Try and stay focused. :roll

Singing up isn't what causes harm. Not using the appropriate safety equipment does.

Good to know that singing does not kill you! Focused you are. Wearing a vest is not the issue. A police officer being murdered is. Wearing a vest is not required by the department the the victim worked at and is not by a large number of agencies. The only person to blame in this event is the bad guy that pulled the trigger. Officers are required to have a vest available if the situation warrants it. It did not save the two officers who were wearing their vests on Jan. 24th.

http://oldnortheast.patch.com/articles/police-officers-not-required-to-wear-bullet-proof-vests

"Mark Marland, president of the Suncoast PBA, said none of the nine police agencies his organization represents in Pinellas County requires officers to wear bullet-proof safety vests. He said Tampa Police do not require it either.

"Some officers just don't want to wear them," Marland said. "They are bulky, and they are somewhat restrictive on movement."

Marland said that requiring officers to wear bullet-proof vests has not come up as an issue either in the police departments that Suncoast PBA represents.

He noted that the two St. Petersburg police officers who were shot and killed by a gunman on Jan. 24 were both wearing their vests.

Officers Thomas Baitinger and Jeffrey Yaslowitze were killed by Hydra Lacy Jr., who was wanted on an outstanding warrant and hiding in the attic of a south St. Petersburg home."

BACKTOTHESEA
03-27-2012, 07:47 AM
Try and stay focused. :roll

Singing up isn't what causes harm. Not using the appropriate safety equipment does.

You're trying to apply the principles of contributory negligence to a death resulting purposeful gunshot from a criminal.

Slapshot, sorry for your loss.




Mod5 Edit: Personal insult/language removed

Eyeball
03-27-2012, 09:26 AM
That applies to this as well then, right?




Yes.

Eyeball
03-27-2012, 09:31 AM
... Wearing a vest is not required by the department the the victim worked at and is not by a large number of agencies. The only person to blame in this event is the bad guy that pulled the trigger. Officers are required to have a vest available if the situation warrants it.




That is significant. In this case, the vest, or lack there of, would not be a consideration. The shooter owns the responsibility, in total.

Eyeball
03-27-2012, 05:10 PM
...



25% of everything you have posted on this forum over the last 2 years is on par with something a babbling of 6-year old would say. :roll

I'm reminded the first people to jump into insults are those that have difficulties with appropriate emotional control, and the lack of a fundamental vocabulary.

jrolin1
03-27-2012, 05:28 PM
Don't make Serge mad! He once killed someone by having them swallow bullets and then MRI-d them to death. He can be very creative. :)

Eyeball
03-27-2012, 05:35 PM
Don't make Serge mad! He once killed someone by having them swallow bullets and then MRI-d them to death. He can be very creative. :)



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yeah, but it's doubtful Serge and her single-digit IQ couldn't find her way out of a cardboard box. ;)


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THT Mod 5
03-27-2012, 05:37 PM
Guys, this thread is getting alot of attention. It's obvious that there are some disagreements, but try to keep the disagreements to the facts/opinions of the issue, and stay away from name calling please.

Hooper
03-27-2012, 05:48 PM
[quote=Eyeball;4478306]

Two window washers on a platform, one wearing a safety harness, one not. The one with the harness pushes the other guy off the platform. If the guy that fell off had been wearing his safety harness he would not have fallen to his death. By choosing not to wear a safety harness in a dangerous environment, does he have any culpability in his own death?

[quote]


In a criminal court, no

wdkerek
03-27-2012, 06:27 PM
bottom line eyeball,.......... for me.............is, despite what you argue, the comment was in bad form to type the least.

the man clearly stated he deceased was his friend. "no comment" would have been well placed on your part.

It appears to me you could be a litigator. And a smart one for sure if so, Frankly, that ability to argue weather a butterfly fart starts hurricanes may have made men think they are great.......the spineless that do so while ignoring human capacities to care and love make men very little.

slapshot
03-29-2012, 04:19 PM
We are not required to wear our vests. It seems like more of the younger (15 years and under) wear them than the older senior guys. I think it is as simple as they were more popular and we've worn them since day one. Most of the older guys that I know who don't wear them say they have never worn one and they just don't like them.

Personally, I wear mine every single day I leave the house in any uniform. I have done that since day one. Yes, they are hot and uncomfortable, but I tolerate it.

I always encourage officers to wear their vests, but that is a decision they have to make for themselves. I don't think it should be mandatory, but they accept the risks of not wearing it. It isn't a magic shield that will automatically save your life. Many times the bad guys luck is better than the officers and the shot hits somewhere unprotected. Honestly, I worry much more about a bad crash on duty than anything else. The vests can help reduce blunt force trauma from crashes or other injuries, knifes, as well as bullets.

Like I said before, just because an officer doesn't wear a vest, it doesn't give some scumbag permission to shoot them. Just like if someone leaves their car unlocked and it gets stolen. You accept the risks by doing either.



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