Marine Electronics Forum - HDS7 with wired remote
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03-23-2012, 03:06 PM
Alright here's the problem..... I just bought a wr600 wired remote for my sonic hub from BOE....
got it all wired in today turned on the HDS7 and nothing... it says initializing sonic hub forever.
I would ha\ve sworn that I read where this was good to go.Fusion makes it all. Called BOE, Fusion and lowrance... nobody seems to know anything. I did the search and turned up some stuff about a "gen 2" wr600..... shit I'm scratching my head. Anybody???
03-23-2012, 04:28 PM
Bluewaterpirate has a video with the remote working with the SonicHub - although with a Simrad unit.
Has the SonicHub worked before you installed the remote? You need later code on the HDS for Gen1 units a not super recent - V3.1 I think - in order for the HDS to see the SonicHub. I'm guessing that's OK based on the "initializing" message
Is the N2K network connected and powered on? Is the SonicHub powered - both the red and yellow wires connected to +12V (maybe with the yellow switched but switched on?)
03-23-2012, 04:52 PM
Yeah the sonic hub has worked and continues to work as long as the remote is not plugged in. as soon as i plug it in though the display says "initializing sonic hub" (display on the hds 7) I have done the whole power down thing. remove power completely...... I just cant see why this thing is not working. It's gotta be a firmware(software) issue.. Anyon know of someone who has this set up working?
03-23-2012, 07:08 PM
Uggh - just got the remote yesterday to use as a part of the overall install - maybe I'll hold off on cutting a hole for it in the dash until I confirm it's happy with everything else.....
You've pressed the power button on the remote? Somewhere ideas someone say you need to turn on the HDS units and then the SonicHub else when an HDS unit comes on it will "reset" the SonicHub - if your SH is switched have you tried the sequencing of turning things on?
03-24-2012, 05:57 AM
Sequence will be my next move....... funny thing is, it plainly shows the wr600 as a "sold seperatly" accessory. on the installation guide that came with the sonic hub. It's even on the lowrance website.
Mwardncsu.... I would definitely wait to cut the hole. but hook it all up and tell me how to get it to work..!
03-24-2012, 02:30 PM
Did you check to see if the green led on the sonic hub black box is lit? I am north of you and the boat is on the hard. Was just farting around with iphone 4s in sonic hub and had the "initializing" message. My batteries are old and did not have enough juice to turn on the hub. Plugged in the charger and the sonic hub came on in a couple of minutes.
Time to toss the cabelas AGM batteries I think.
03-25-2012, 04:59 AM
Yes the batteries are new...... The thing about the power light, it's on when the remote is not plugged in(sonic hub works and plays ipod) but as soon as i plug in the remote, the power light goes out and I get the "initializing sonic hub" message on the hds 7.
The yellow wire from the sonic hub is connected to the yellow from the hds7..... mwardncsu above suggested that maybe it needs to be connected to 12v instead.
I sure hope this is a sequence thing or a firmware issue.... anyone know of anything that requires a 3 inch hole that would that would be useful for the side of my console????
Any more ideas on what the problem is here?? Whats wierd here is that Lowrance shows the wr600 wired remote as an optional accessory on the sonic hub installation guide.
03-25-2012, 06:13 AM
I am not familiar with the remote. Is it possible that it acts as a switch to tell the Sonic Hub to turn on?
03-25-2012, 10:26 AM
Well.... disaster averted! It seems that instead of wiring the yellow on the SH to the yellow on the hds7, you have to wire the yellow on the SH to 12v(switched or not) Dont know why it won't work with the "wake up" wire but, I'm just glad I don't have a 3 inch hole in my console for no reason..
Maybe this will save another poor soul a headache.
03-25-2012, 11:24 AM
Thanks nodollas - I was earlier planning to wire as you did but has just about decided to put the SH yellow wire on its own switch - guess that's confirmed now....
03-25-2012, 11:29 AM
Yeah....when I turn on the hds7 now... it says "sonic hub disconnected then,,,initializing then....it all starts working smoothly. Wired remote works like a charm..... and it will navigate the ipod menu pretty well too!
Forgot to mention that I added 2 new speakers up front as well..... My Sea Pro bay never sounded so good!
03-26-2012, 08:34 AM
Does the remote eliminate the need to change the HDS page to the sonic hub? Meaning I could work the sonic hub with the remote while the HDS is displaying the GPS page? That would be great
03-26-2012, 06:22 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you have whatever functionality the wired remote has regardless of which "page" it's on.
06-17-2012, 01:59 PM
Can anyone either confirm or deny the existance or requirement of a 2nd gen wr600 vs a 1st gen model?
06-18-2012, 12:36 PM
My hds7 with my sonic hub works flawlessly now....... the remote will interface without the hds7 even being on so I dont see that the gen2 hds will have an issue.
Afterr some fiddling..... you can pretty much use all trhe functions of the ipod and am/fm radio. Change radio stations manually or scan .... set all your pre-sets and scroll through them one at a time....
The only issue I have heard of are some limitations using the XM....
06-18-2012, 01:40 PM
Just completed my install on this recently myself - just make sure you install the SonicHub to be switched separately form your HDS if you want to use the remote independent of the HDS - I have the +12 red to my fuse box with power to it all the time (well, unless I turn off the breaker that powers that fuse block), and the yellow wire from the SonicHub goes to a switch that connects (though a 3A breaker) to +12V when the switch is "on". This way I can turn on the SonicHub and NOT have the HDS unit turned on.
One thing to note - if you have the SonicHub pn and have the HDS on (and of course connected via N2K), and you turn off the HDS, the SonicHub will turn off - the HDS must send a turn-off message or something over the N2K network to the SonicHub. However you can then turn ON the SonicHub again via the remote.
I've not had a chance to play with the Sirius Audio via the remote yet as it seems Sirius has not reactivated by signal even though they are charging me again after suspending the service over the winter :mad: However, with the remote you can view playlists, album names, etc from an iPhone/iPod, change radio channels/presets as mentioned.
I don't like that the iPod/iPhone is locked out from local control for the audio player function - my previous Sony allowed me to control the iPod function from the iPhone//iPod directly vs. having to do it from the unit - generally quicker and easier, but my iPhone is not in the dock, its on a mount on the dash......
The menu system on the HDS is not as elegant as it could (should) be but its not bad and pretty intuitive - we've just become spoiled with nicer graphical interfaces..... I mean where's my album art on my HDS display :grin: