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tat2
03-23-2012, 09:23 AM
what is the best way to kill 'em? ;?
i tried the fire ant killer from lowes, andro i think. poured it on the mound and all that happened was they moved the mound.
an old timer told me to dump raw grits on the mound, ants would eat them and swell up and burst, didn't happen.
another guy said to put apple slices on the mound and the acid in the apples would kill them when they ate it.:mad: nope, didn't work either!


NJFISH
03-23-2012, 09:27 AM
http://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside-chat/413391-mosquito-control.html

EDIT: Read that the main use for Bifenthrin is to deal with fire ants

Dulcecita Lures
03-23-2012, 09:29 AM
Frustrating, yes, but stay with the Andro. They take it down into the nest and eat it and it kills the colony. You may not get them all immediately and they may resurface, but the Andro does do the job if given some time. I've used it here in AZ for both fire ants and the little damned black biter ants. DEATH TO ANTS!!

Of course, that may not be a good thing. I've heard that if you've got ant colonies, you won't get any termites and killing the ants opens the door for the termites to move in. Go figure. (Don't know how true it is, just heard that from my son-in-law that does pest control and surprisingly enough, looks exactly like John Goodman in the movie Aracnophobia! :rofl:)


cgrand
03-23-2012, 09:30 AM
depends on what your end game is
if you just want to eliminate individual mounds, there are dozens of ways to do that, boiling water being the easiest & cheapest way

if you want to TEMPORARILY reclaim your yard, talstar is what you want

http://www.pestop.com/content/talstar-pl

sea tonic
03-23-2012, 09:38 AM
fire ants are territorial. If you get a shovel-full from one mound and place on top of another mound,( and vice versa) the will kill each other off! Or, do what my BIL did and drop a cherry bomb in the mound!!! (just don't stand too close!).

tprice
03-23-2012, 10:05 AM
We use Over and Out, put it out in the spring and no fire ants all year.

freedbaby
03-23-2012, 10:12 AM
I spay Bifen IT and never see an ant. I spray 3-4 times a year and it covers Mosquitoes, ants, termites, roaches...just about everything.

Check this thread out. (http://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside-chat/413391-mosquito-control.html)

jrolin1
03-23-2012, 10:26 AM
We use Over and Out, put it out in the spring and no fire ants all year.

That is what I have been using with good results. I am going to try the Bifen this year for the additional bug control and try to skip the Over and out.

jrolin1
03-23-2012, 10:28 AM
The mound killer does work but you have to spread it around the outside of the mound also which is bigger than you think and gently apply the water.

BIGnUGLY
03-23-2012, 10:37 AM
Trugreen lawn service spreads a granular that lasts over a year and has worked flawlessly for me for years.

chrisrack
03-23-2012, 10:39 AM
Andro is a bait and must be spread around the mound ...... not on top. The foraging ant are looking for food 1-3 ft away from the mount so that is where the bait needs to be. Give it 5-7 days and the entire colony will be dead.

Mr. Demeanor
03-23-2012, 11:01 AM
You have to treat the whole yard and even over into the neighbors a little if they dont treat. Get a broadcast spreader and do the whole yard. I only have to do it about once a year.

outlaw gunner
03-23-2012, 11:03 AM
I spay Bifen IT and never see an ant. I spray 3-4 times a year and it covers Mosquitoes, ants, termites, roaches...just about everything.

Check this thread out. (http://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside-chat/413391-mosquito-control.html)

X2, that's what we recommend for all our customers.

HTV
03-23-2012, 11:06 AM
Some useful info from Texas A & M which was built on a fire ant mound.:grin:
http://fireant.tamu.edu/controlmethods/index.php
http://fireant.tamu.edu/controlmethods/products/index.php

Schmaltz~Herring
03-23-2012, 11:26 AM
Unfortunately the EPA has eliminated most if not all effective pest control agents. :( I usually mix up a couple of store bought chemicals which works.

thegulfer
03-23-2012, 01:09 PM
I use the Amdro "bait" and have had the same result as you did. They just move. However, I have found that if you apply it again to the new (weakened?) mounds it will generally do them in. Actually, I guess it could just make them move again (to your neighbors yard?) but I have two empty lots next to me so they could be going there.

Anyway, I'm sure there is some other stuff that works but maybe try the bait a second time since you probably have some left.

Also, I try not to kill the "red" ants because I hear they don't get along. :)

A Few Dollars
03-23-2012, 01:15 PM
Trugreen lawn service spreads a granular that lasts over a year and has worked flawlessly for me for years.

Talstar

http://www.pestop.com/content/talstar-pl

It works good though I find it's lifespan is determined by rain fall.

I reapply about every 4 months.

Just Not Right
03-23-2012, 01:24 PM
Get a chicken or 2, great pets and they will eat all of the ants, grubs, lizards and turn them into fresh eggs! I haven't had a Fireant mound in my yard for 3 years.

beenie
03-23-2012, 02:50 PM
Most of the poisons just move the mound. I bought some (can't remember the name) with acephate as the main ingredient. It stinks like hell. It is a talc like powder and just a bit on the mound and in a couple of days you will have DEAD ants all around the empty mound.
Mike

Lineside
03-23-2012, 03:46 PM
Gas and a match. Hey y'all watch this.

Ben Had
03-23-2012, 03:48 PM
Hair spray and a cig lighter...well that's what I use to do 40 years ago.

Ben Had
03-23-2012, 03:50 PM
Get a chicken or 2, great pets and they will eat all of the ants, grubs, lizards and turn them into fresh eggs! I haven't had a Fireant mound in my yard for 3 years.

Just make sure they have a place to roost! They'll crap all over your porch:grin:

Redfish44
03-23-2012, 03:55 PM
"Orthene" by Ortho. Sold at Lowes for 10 bucks a can. Will kill the whole mound. Good stuff.

catfever24
03-23-2012, 05:15 PM
Gas and a match. Hey y'all watch this.

Thats what I do. All this bad ethanol gas that spoils so quick in a 5 gal gas can, I use it on ant beds. Does the job real quick.

tprice
03-23-2012, 05:35 PM
I spay Bifen IT and never see an ant. I spray 3-4 times a year and it covers Mosquitoes, ants, termites, roaches...just about everything.

Check this thread out. (http://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside-chat/413391-mosquito-control.html)


Thanks I will check it out, we have a hell of a time with roaches in our yard and flower beds

How well does it work on fleas, we have two labs and 3 inside dogs that go out several times a day

Coconut Sunrise
03-23-2012, 07:14 PM
fire ants are territorial. If you get a shovel-full from one mound and place on top of another mound,( and vice versa) the will kill each other off! .



works well

freedbaby
03-24-2012, 04:41 AM
Thanks I will check it out, we have a hell of a time with roaches in our yard and flower beds

How well does it work on fleas, we have two labs and 3 inside dogs that go out several times a day

Works great. When we leave one house to the other (when I know the dogs beds will have time to dry) I even spray those on occasion. I have a lab/golden mix and a Dalmatian.

I'm telling you guys this stuff Is the liquid gold in my life. No mosquito's, no ants, no fleas, no tics, no roaches, no termites, nada, none, zippo

xl883lo
03-24-2012, 10:39 PM
"Orthene" by Ortho. Sold at Lowes for 10 bucks a can. Will kill the whole mound. Good stuff.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thu mbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thu mbsup:Best stuff you can get without a "Permit"



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