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rkatz
03-22-2012, 08:50 PM
For those that live near the water, mosquitoes are a constant annoyance. Now my youngest has shown signs of some pretty nasty reactions to mosquito bites, so I started looking into mosquito control systems. None of the ones I looked at, particularly the mosquito magnet, had very high reviews.

Anybody here have any positive experiences with mosquito control devices or tactics?


freedbaby
03-22-2012, 09:01 PM
Forget them all. Buy 3/4 gallons of Bifen IT. Spray it at a rate of 3/4 oz to a gallon of water.

You won't see a mosquito, an ant, a roach, a termite, nothing. It's safe for pets, children, and adults as soon as it's dry. We spray an acre about once every 3 months as well as all my neighbors in an area of Texas that is known for the biggest mosquitos that travel the furthest. We hardly ever see one and we are right on the water.

Only thing not to spray on is plants you intend to eat.

We dilute 1oz per gallon and use in house as well.

You will think I'm a god later! I swear...you'll get your outdoor life back. You should pay less than $60 per 3/4 gallon jug. Ive been buying it at a case price from a local feed store (4 jugs to a case) for just under $50 each and splitting it up with my neighbors.

Please let me know your result. And seriously don't waste your money on anything else...I already did for you.

The inventors should really pay me...I am a walking commercial for the stuff.

mikeloew
03-22-2012, 09:12 PM
IMHO the only thing that works is your County doing Aeriel spraying. Localized control is a waste of money. Monroe County does a great job in the Keys. When I come down to my vacation home in the Keys I never see a skeeter, In Wisconsin I can not even sit on my deck after dusk you WILL lose a gallon of blood. I have tried every gimmick known to man kind, they are all a joke.


freedbaby
03-22-2012, 09:20 PM
IMHO the only thing that works is your County doing Aeriel spraying. Localized control is a waste of money. Monroe County does a great job in the Keys. When I come down to my vacation home in the Keys I never see a skeeter, In Wisconsin I can not even sit on my deck after dusk you WILL lose a gallon of blood. I have tried every gimmick known to man kind, they are all a joke.



You try my method...if it doesn't work I buy your remaining Bifen. I swear by this shit. I have nothing to do with them either...just a really really happy customer!!!!!!!

Forgot to mention: spray everything, decks, flower beds, half way up the walls of the house, crawl space if you got one. EVERYTHING UNLESS YU INTEND TO EAT IT.

At my home in Houston I use a little garden sprayer that attaches to the hose. For the acre on the water I drag a 25 gallon tank with an electric pump behind the Mule. It's got two sprayers that will spray about 7' wide.

BigWill58
03-23-2012, 02:41 AM
I agree with freedbaby. I also have a place in Sargent, Texas and the mosquitoes are very bad at times there. I have worked in Nigeria in Malaria areas for many years and have learned a great deal about mosquitos and the different species and their habits. All mosquitos rest underneath things during the day. Then at dusk they come out to feed. If you spray about 2-3 hours before dark - especially underneath things or in thick vegetation - they will leave. A mosquito only has a range of about 1/4 mile and most won't travel that far. If you keep them off of your property on a regular basis, you will be surprised how few return each day. The Bifen works very well, just make sure to hit any vegetation, heavy grass or clover and underneath houses, trailers, steps or anything that provides darkness and moisture.

KJS
03-23-2012, 04:25 AM
Great advice guys, thanks for posting. We get swarms of nasty ones here.

bellsisland
03-23-2012, 04:34 AM
what about no-seeums? Will bifin it fight them? I am going to get some today.

jrolin1
03-23-2012, 05:00 AM
How long does the bifen last before you have to reapply?

jrolin1
03-23-2012, 05:03 AM
I ordered some off of ebay. 39 and change shipped for 3/4 gallon seemed like the best deal I could find. Shipping from Florida so hopefully it won't take long to get here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BiFen-I-T-3-4-gallon-Termite-pest-Control-Ants-tallstar-generic-on-sale-/280842029714?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41637d4a92

rkatz
03-23-2012, 06:17 AM
Thanks! I knew someone on here would have a solution! Ordering today. I will report results

Jughed
03-23-2012, 06:29 AM
what about no-seeums? Will bifin it fight them? I am going to get some today.

Bell, please report back... you live right down river from me and I would like to see how this works in our area. I was torn to shreads last night playing around on the dock.

I don't think anything will really work in our area. The river is only 100' wide, nothing but raw woods/swamp on the other side.

Contractor
03-23-2012, 07:10 AM
There is a service here that comes by and fogs my yard once a month. They hook up a fogger to a backpack blower and go to town for about twenty minutes.

It kills everyone of them dead as a hammer and I don't have them all summer long. You can buy the parts and pieces yourself, but you need a pesticide aplicators license to get the chemicals.

$60/month

freedbaby
03-23-2012, 07:24 AM
Forget them all.

I'll make you the same offer. Give it a shot since I know you haven't (because if you had you wouldn't have made the comment) and if you find it doesn't work...I buy your remaining Bifen.

For the others.

I spray about 3 to 4 times a year...of course a bit more often in the hotter seasons, but none in the winter. I usually get about 60 days during the summer when its the worst. Of course it depends a lot on rain fall and how much standing water is around.

freedbaby
03-23-2012, 07:28 AM
There is a service here that comes by and fogs my yard once a month. They hook up a fogger to a backpack blower and go to town for about twenty minutes.

It kills everyone of them dead as a hammer and I don't have them all summer long. You can buy the parts and pieces yourself, but you need a pesticide aplicators license to get the chemicals.

$60/month

They are using Bifen and some places will try and make you show a license for it but the truth is it isn't required. For $60, you will be able to pay for a years worth of spraying.

KDM
03-23-2012, 09:05 AM
Which one of these is it or, are they all the same?




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KDM
03-23-2012, 09:05 AM
Well that didn't work right

freedbaby
03-23-2012, 09:27 AM
CLICK HERE (http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/bifen-it-3-4-gallon-free-shipping)

I dont buy mine online so i dont know if its the best online deal...I was just posting to show you what to buy. This is the liquid gold in my world.

bellsisland
03-23-2012, 10:54 AM
Yeah putting the boat on the lift, I get destroyed. Stop by the dock for a cold one some time. I am just past the plantations.

I am going to spray around the dock I will let you know what happens.


Bell, please report back... you live right down river from me and I would like to see how this works in our area. I was torn to shreads last night playing around on the dock.

I don't think anything will really work in our area. The river is only 100' wide, nothing but raw woods/swamp on the other side.

Fl Fisherman
03-26-2012, 05:06 AM
Has anyone tried to fog apply this chemical?

Jughed
03-26-2012, 05:23 AM
Yeah putting the boat on the lift, I get destroyed. Stop by the dock for a cold one some time. I am just past the plantations.

I am going to spray around the dock I will let you know what happens.

Will do, always up for a cold one... made it down that way this weekend for the first time. Love the river - its a little hairy up past Gregg's landing, but can be done at 3/4 low.

Let me know if you try that spray...

bellsisland
03-26-2012, 07:52 AM
I hope to try it today, now that we can get a couple of days with out rain, my yard is like a swamp

fishnwilliam
04-02-2012, 11:29 AM
Is Bifen IT safe to use near the water?

Blythe1022
04-02-2012, 12:06 PM
Where are you guys buying this stuff? Internet or can you get it at Lowes, HD, Tractor Supply Company?

jrolin1
04-02-2012, 12:34 PM
I got it online. They have it at tractor supply but it was more expensive.

proine17
04-02-2012, 01:35 PM
Is anyone fogging like the services do? I was thinking about buying a fogger but would love to use my regular sprayer if I can get the same results.

jrolin1
04-02-2012, 02:20 PM
I have a fogger and it is fine for a party or something soon after you fog but it does not last very long.

proine17
04-02-2012, 05:42 PM
I am with you on the backyard foggers that you can purchase at big box stores. What I am referring to is a machine like what these guys are using:

http://www.mosquito-authority.com/services/barrier-spray/

C Skip R
04-02-2012, 06:16 PM
Will try the Bifen IT next time. Purchased some Talstar P and it has worked extremely well. I spray everything on the outside of the house and a couple of feet up on the walls and even ceilings. Stuff works well and I think both products have the same chemicals.

DoubleO7
04-04-2012, 09:57 AM
I use genaric Bifen IT.
There are many with the same active ingredient, which is bifenthrin.
Talstar P is also bifenthrin, same 7.9% as the Bifen IT.

However, you can get various concentrations of bifenthrin.

NJLorelei
04-04-2012, 10:02 AM
http://www.mosquitosquad.com/images/misc/dread-bubble.png

Used the Mosquito Squad last year. Seemed to work.

catfever24
04-05-2012, 04:22 AM
Only thing not to spray on is plants you intend to eat.



Do you know if this is safe for pastures with horses? I tryed to google the msds sheet and it doesn`t mention anything about livestock. Next time your at the feed store can you ask them if anybody uses it around horses?

freedbaby
04-05-2012, 04:31 AM
Do you know if this is safe for pastures with horses? I tryed to google the msds sheet and it doesn`t mention anything about livestock. Next time your at the feed store can you ask them if anybody uses it around horses?

Safe for animals when dry.

Outrage20
04-05-2012, 07:55 AM
order processed, i hope it works!

love THT

Ifishalot
04-13-2012, 12:35 PM
I read this thread a while back and decided to order the Bifen I/T. I applied around my travel trailer (I work on the road) and surrounding area. I used to get hammered by mosquitoes, esp. in the evening.... well I have not seen a mosquito since the day after I applied the spray.

This stuff is awesome!!!!

FYI per directions:
- Do not apply indoors
- Do not use as a Fog
- You can apply it to any surface that you would put water on.
- Double up the recommended dose to treat for Termites.

If you don't want to commit to a large amount, follow the link. $22.00 and I had mine in 4 days.

http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/bifen-it-bifenthrin-7-9

catfever24
04-13-2012, 05:04 PM
Thanks for the site, I just ordered some as well. Hope this works on yellow flies.

bamaboy473
04-13-2012, 06:12 PM
The eBay ad for $27.xx plus $12.00 S&H also has a Make Offer provision.

Anybody want to go in on an offer in the $23 plus $12 = $35 for 3/4 gallon?

PM me and I'll pass that along to the seller on a group buy. I think 4 would be a good number to buy; shipped to your individual homes.

Let me know.

t3rockhall
04-13-2012, 06:51 PM
I was splitting wood last week. The rounds were on the ground and I rolled them up to the patio where the splitter was. I musta disturbed some bug's nest in the ground, because I was bitten all around my ankles, and halfway up to the knee. And I was wearing shoes, socks and long jeans. Never felt the bites, just the itchy and scabby bites a day or two later.

freedbaby
04-16-2012, 09:32 AM
I read this thread a while back and decided to order the Bifen I/T. I applied around my travel trailer (I work on the road) and surrounding area. I used to get hammered by mosquitoes, esp. in the evening.... well I have not seen a mosquito since the day after I applied the spray.

This stuff is awesome!!!!

FYI per directions:
- Do not apply indoors
- Do not use as a Fog
- You can apply it to any surface that you would put water on.
- Double up the recommended dose to treat for Termites.

If you don't want to commit to a large amount, follow the link. $22.00 and I had mine in 4 days.

http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/bifen-it-bifenthrin-7-9

I am glad you found it to give you good results.

I have actually experimenting with using less...the last time I sprayed only a 1/2 oz to a gallon and its still working just as good. I'll let you guys know.

Ifishalot
04-18-2012, 10:31 AM
I am glad you found it to give you good results.

I have actually experimenting with using less...the last time I sprayed only a 1/2 oz to a gallon and its still working just as good. I'll let you guys know.

Thanks for posting the Bifin.

It has been app. 2 weeks now and I have seen 1 mosquito. It was a very windy day, I am guessing he was forced from the surrounding woods by the wind.

triguy7
04-25-2012, 05:39 PM
Thanks for posting. Sprayed 6 days ago and zero Mosquito's.
I hate dem damn things.

freedbaby
04-25-2012, 07:00 PM
Thanks for posting. Sprayed 6 days ago and zero Mosquito's.
I hate dem damn things.


You're welcome :thumbsup:

I'm glad you're posting your experiences, It will make the naysayers get lost quick.

cgrand
05-03-2012, 01:53 PM
hey guys, as a beekeeper, let me just throw this out there
bifin is highly, highly toxic to honeybees
please, please don't spray actively flowering plants or shrubs
it shouldn't be necessary to do that for mosquitos anyway, but if you do spray your flowers, you will kill the honeybees

spray the undersides, spray the beds, spray under porches, steps, decks, walls, etc...but don't spray the flowers or the tops of your flowering plants

freedbaby
05-03-2012, 02:06 PM
hey guys, as a beekeeper, let me just throw this out there
bifin is highly, highly toxic to honeybees
please, please don't spray actively flowering plants or shrubs
it shouldn't be necessary to do that for mosquitos anyway, but if you do spray your flowers, you will kill the honeybees

spray the undersides, spray the beds, spray under porches, steps, decks, walls, etc...but don't spray the flowers or the tops of your flowering plants

thank you for that piece of info! I will keep this in mind when I spray.

mikeloew
05-03-2012, 06:51 PM
hey guys, as a beekeeper, let me just throw this out there
bifin is highly, highly toxic to honeybees
please, please don't spray actively flowering plants or shrubs
it shouldn't be necessary to do that for mosquitos anyway, but if you do spray your flowers, you will kill the honeybees

spray the undersides, spray the beds, spray under porches, steps, decks, walls, etc...but don't spray the flowers or the tops of your flowering plants

Yes thank you for that info. I have Parrots (outside aviary) and dogs I would hate to hurt my beloved pets. But I hate sketters. And so do my pets. Good advise.

rusbob
05-03-2012, 07:14 PM
If you have a tall tree you can put a bat house up there. Bats will be attracted to the house and they eat the hell out of some skeeters, in fact several times their weight in bugs every day. Just a thought....

jrolin1
05-04-2012, 03:35 AM
I have bats. I have purple martins. I still had skeeters. I applied bifen. Now the skeeters are gone. :)

chrisrack
05-04-2012, 04:24 AM
If you have a tall tree you can put a bat house up there. Bats will be attracted to the house and they eat the hell out of some skeeters, in fact several times their weight in bugs every day. Just a thought....


100% completely false information.

This little statistic is based off a single study performed in the 1950's based upon a laboratory study where a 'researcher' put a bat into an enclosure with a million mosquitoes. After 20 minutues he killed and dissected the bat to see how many mosquitoes he ate. He then extraoplated the number of mosquitoes eaten in 20 minutes to what might have been eaten in 24hrs. All of this is a totally bogus study on many level.

Additional research done by bat biologists in "wild bat" populations have discovered that a VERY small portion of a bat's diet is mosquitoes. Like under 1%. Mostly bats eat larger insects such as moths.

But if you really think that bats can eat their own weight in mosquitoes in 24hr period, can you post a link to the peer-reviewed and scientific journal article that provides this information?

jaredsrt
05-04-2012, 09:15 AM
Another +1 for Bifen. I bought some at Home Depot (Marketed as Ortho Termite killer). Its only like 4% so I sprayed it at 2oz per gallon. Sprayed two weeks ago.

Before spraying, being outside by the dock was almost a no go. Sand fleas would eat anyone out there alive. Since spraying, I think i've been bit once or twice total. Haven't seen any other bugs at all.

qbanned
06-29-2012, 07:03 AM
Sweet I need some of this….. Let me get this straight...So you're putting it in a Pump sprayer .

Do I spray the entire lawn with the sprayer or use one of those garden sprayers you hook the hose up to ?

Man this sounds good …… I feel like I get gang raped when I go in the back yard and they laugh at the Fogger from Home Deeps

triguy7
06-29-2012, 11:45 AM
Works great! Don't know how important the mix ratio is but....be careful not to get overspray on your feets

FASTFJR
06-29-2012, 11:58 AM
Works great! Don't know how important the mix ratio is but....be careful not to get overspray on your feets

You need to be careful with this stuff. Yea, it kill all kind of bugs, it also kills bee's, fish etc....

Toxicity in animals
Mosquitoes
Bifenthrin is an effective pesticide to use against malaria mosquitoes. Bifenthrin is still effective when there is a resistance for other pyrethroides. Mosquito nets can be treated with bifenthrin. When this is done the nets keep more mosquitoes away.[6] At this moment bifenthrin is an effectively used insecticide but there is a high risk that bifenthrin only works for a short time. The mosquitoes will develop a resistance against bifenthrin as well.[7]
Aquatic life
Bifenthrin is hardly soluble in water so nearly all bifenthrin will stay in the sediment. Although there is not much bifenthrin in the water, it is very harmful for the aquatic life. Even in small concentrations fishes and other aquatic animals are affected by bifenthrin.[4] One of the reasons for the high sensitivity of fish for bifenthrin is because fish have a slow metabolism. Bifenthrin will stay longer in the system of the fish. Another reason for the high sensitivity for fish is the effect of bifenthrin as ATPase-inhibitor. The gills need a lot of ATP to control the osmotic balance of oxygen. If the fish is no longer capable to take up oxygen because ATP can no longer be used, the fish will die.[8] In cold water bifenthrin is even more dangerous. pH and calcium concentration are also factors that influence the toxicity.[9] Vertebrates are less sensitive for the effects of bifenthrin as ATPase-inhibitor.
Bees
Bees are very sensitive for bifenthrin. They will instantly die on small doses. If the exposure is not lethal, there are tons of toxic effects that affect the entire colony. Bifenthrin reduces the fecundity of the bees; less bees will develop an adulthood because their immature period is extended by bifenthrin. There is also an effect on the laying of eggs and on the queen replacement. All these effects together will reduce the colonies chances of survival.[10]
Table of LD50 values

TheRealMacGyver
07-02-2012, 05:18 PM
Ordered the 3/4 gallon today, hope it's as good as you guys are saying. Can't even go out in the yard right now at dusk without spray on.

LI Sound Grunt
07-02-2012, 05:20 PM
Works great! Don't know how important the mix ratio is but....be careful not to get overspray on your feets

Holy crap!!!:grin:

NJFISH
07-02-2012, 05:23 PM
No effect so far on gnats/black flies. I think I might spray myself to keep them away.

Mako 234
07-02-2012, 05:26 PM
How long does it take Bifen to start working?

I sprayed today for the first time. Hoping to clear up the bugs for the yard games on the 4th.

I live in a marsh area and you can't go outside anytime of the day without bug spray.

bamaboy473
07-02-2012, 05:45 PM
You should see results by the next day. We have a lot of green broad-leafed bushes, and a lot of trees and underbrush. Around the pool are a lot of various types of bushes, azaleas, hydrangeas, etc.

Without Bifen, the mosquitoes are bothersome. After a spraying, they aren't there anymore.

I will work to not spray flowering bushes because I don't like killing bees and other good insects, including the chameleons and such that feed on them.

Bifen is a NUKE to insects. If you want skeeters gone, use it every couple of weeks and if you want all insects gone, spray away.

bellsisland
07-02-2012, 06:44 PM
Ordered mine finally, going to spray tomorrow

bellsisland
07-02-2012, 06:44 PM
Is it ok for the grass, my yard looks the best it has in 8 years

freedbaby
07-02-2012, 07:39 PM
100% fine for your grass. I spray my Saint Augustine grass with no problems whatsoever.

rkatz
07-02-2012, 08:41 PM
I took the advice and sprayed it. I saw a marked difference for a short whille, but then they were right back. Note: I didn't spray the grass, just the sides of the house and anywhere that looked like it may be hiding skeeters or larvae. This time, I'm going to spray EVERYTHING that isn't breathing (yes, I know plants breathe, but they're getting sprayed too). Report next week. :)

gashogg
07-06-2012, 06:15 AM
freedbaby,

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!! We got over 20" of rain in less than a month in my area. We have bad skeeters on a good day in the summer at my house. But after all that rain it was unreal. My back porch was coverd with them. Every bush had hundreds of them under it.

I sprayed my yard on Tuesday and then went back with a pump sprayer yesterday to hit any trouble spots that I missed. I walked my yard this morning and did not have ONE skeeter land on me. A week ago I would have had dozens of them on me as soon as I set foot in the yard. I also saw a bunch of dead roaches on my walkway.

My wife and kids can go outside without bug spay now. That is almost unheard of in the summer in my area.

Thaks again.

freedbaby
07-06-2012, 10:36 AM
I took the advice and sprayed it. I saw a marked difference for a short whille, but then they were right back. Note: I didn't spray the grass, just the sides of the house and anywhere that looked like it may be hiding skeeters or larvae. This time, I'm going to spray EVERYTHING that isn't breathing (yes, I know plants breathe, but they're getting sprayed too). Report next week. :)

you MUST spray everything!!!!

FaddaWayne
07-14-2012, 03:00 PM
I am glad you found it to give you good results.

I have actually experimenting with using less...the last time I sprayed only a 1/2 oz to a gallon and its still working just as good. I'll let you guys know.

Just got raped to buy it, $27.50 for 4oz so I'm going to try 1/2oz per gallon as well and see how it goes, joys of living on an island... The nursery I got it from also said it would work on my white fly issue so using it as a substitute for an even more expensive chemical I was using weekly.

Amazon for the next batch though.

TheRealMacGyver
07-15-2012, 12:37 PM
Sprayed my entire backyard, which is probably close to 3/4 acre. Sprayed everything and used about 8 gallons mixed at 3/4 oz per gal. My expectations were very high for this stuff, so I was expecting a miracle. My expectations were not only met, but exceeded by a long shot. I feel like I've taken my yard back!

Last night after the sun went down I thought I would give it the ultimate test. I just got out of the pool, so with nothing but swim trunks and flip flops I strolled around the back yard for about 20 minutes. About half of my backyard is just trees and pine needles and semi-natural. Normally the no-see-ums (me-no-see-um but-em-make-me-scratch) rip my ankles apart. Not one. This is great. I also mixed another 4 gallons and did a heavy perimeter spray around the house.

bamaboy473
07-15-2012, 07:07 PM
Sprayed my entire backyard, which is probably close to 3/4 acre. Sprayed everything and used about 8 gallons mixed at 3/4 oz per gal. My expectations were very high for this stuff, so I was expecting a miracle. My expectations were not only met, but exceeded by a long shot. I feel like I've taken my yard back!

Last night after the sun went down I thought I would give it the ultimate test. I just got out of the pool, so with nothing but swim trunks and flip flops I strolled around the back yard for about 20 minutes. About half of my backyard is just trees and pine needles and semi-natural. Normally the no-see-ums (me-no-see-um but-em-make-me-scratch) rip my ankles apart. Not one. This is great. I also mixed another 4 gallons and did a heavy perimeter spray around the house.

What kind of sprayer are you using to put out that much product?

TheRealMacGyver
07-15-2012, 07:13 PM
What kind of sprayer are you using to put out that much product?

One of these:
http://www.groworganic.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/s/gsd3528_hi.jpg

Just went out to see my exact model, it's this one: http://www.sprayerusa.com/RL-Pro-Flo-4-Gallon-Backpack-Sprayer_p_25.html

jrolin1
07-16-2012, 04:52 AM
I use one of these and spray it all..

http://www.scotts.com/smg/products/ortho/Ortho-Dial-N-Spray-Multi-Use-Hose-End-Sprayer-std.jpg

freedbaby
07-16-2012, 11:30 AM
freedbaby,

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!! We got over 20" of rain in less than a month in my area. We have bad skeeters on a good day in the summer at my house. But after all that rain it was unreal. My back porch was coverd with them. Every bush had hundreds of them under it.

I sprayed my yard on Tuesday and then went back with a pump sprayer yesterday to hit any trouble spots that I missed. I walked my yard this morning and did not have ONE skeeter land on me. A week ago I would have had dozens of them on me as soon as I set foot in the yard. I also saw a bunch of dead roaches on my walkway.

My wife and kids can go outside without bug spay now. That is almost unheard of in the summer in my area.

Thaks again.

Sprayed my entire backyard, which is probably close to 3/4 acre. Sprayed everything and used about 8 gallons mixed at 3/4 oz per gal. My expectations were very high for this stuff, so I was expecting a miracle. My expectations were not only met, but exceeded by a long shot. I feel like I've taken my yard back!

Last night after the sun went down I thought I would give it the ultimate test. I just got out of the pool, so with nothing but swim trunks and flip flops I strolled around the back yard for about 20 minutes. About half of my backyard is just trees and pine needles and semi-natural. Normally the no-see-ums (me-no-see-um but-em-make-me-scratch) rip my ankles apart. Not one. This is great. I also mixed another 4 gallons and did a heavy perimeter spray around the house.

So glad you guys are happy with the results.

We are having so much rain down at my weekend place and the grass is growing so fast I am having a tough time staying on top of it. We are getting several inches of rain per week lately. Love the moisture, sure beats last years draught but the skeeter problem is out of hand...ARGH

I guess the old adage is true...Cant have your cake and eat it too...

cgrand
07-16-2012, 11:33 AM
it works even out at my camp on a barrier island!

just want to reiterate if i can though that if possible do not spray it on flowering plants, as it is extremely toxic to honeybees

gtrfred
07-17-2012, 09:42 AM
i will have to give this stuff a try.

Cgrand - I know you mentioned honeybees and their protection, but does anyone know if this works for wasps?

My backyard, bushes and wooden fence is infested with wasps. I cant keep the things away. The cable man had to run a new wire on the side of the house and was stung 4 times doing it.

TheRealMacGyver
07-17-2012, 09:56 AM
i will have to give this stuff a try.

Cgrand - I know you mentioned honeybees and their protection, but does anyone know if this works for wasps?

My backyard, bushes and wooden fence is infested with wasps. I cant keep the things away. The cable man had to run a new wire on the side of the house and was stung 4 times doing it.

It will kill EVERYTHING! (insects that is). That is why some have cautioned about honey bees, we don't want to kill them they're good guys! But yes, wasps-no problem. I'm definitely an advocate of this stuff now as well.

blindmullet
07-17-2012, 03:46 PM
I grew up on a lake that bordered some woods in Florida with salt marsh down the street. We had pretty good luck using a bug fogger before sunset.

FaddaWayne
07-17-2012, 06:56 PM
Sprayed 14 gallons on Saturday evening over 1/2 acre (7 ozs @ 1/2oz per gal). Poured rain on Sunday night, had my 2 year old boy (the mosquito magnet) in the yard with me last night til 7pm and not a bite...could see a few flies about but a normal absolute no no with him was a new found pleasure...thanks guys.

Going to hit the perimeter and interior with 1gal to 1oz next week (with the boy out of the house). Saving me $125 quarterly pest control service and giving me my yard back...

rkatz
07-25-2012, 06:46 PM
Oops. What happens if I sprayed 2 ounces to a gallon? For some reason, I thought that was the right mix. And, I sprayed the crap out of everything with about 8 gallons on my entire property. Should I keep kids from going out there for a while? This is one of the reasons I hate DIY projects.

freedbaby
07-25-2012, 07:13 PM
Oops. What happens if I sprayed 2 ounces to a gallon? For some reason, I thought that was the right mix. And, I sprayed the crap out of everything with about 8 gallons on my entire property. Should I keep kids from going out there for a while? This is one of the reasons I hate DIY projects.

Don't worry about it, I spray inside my house with a 2 oz per gallon mixture. As long as its dry you are fine.

freedbaby
07-25-2012, 07:22 PM
Glad you guys are seeing good results.

This past week I was down at my bay house where we have had 3-5 inches of rain for several weeks straight and needless to say the mosquitos are epidemic.

I had sprayed a couple weeks earlier but so much rain, so many yard mowings and the treated grass was long gone. We got to the house late in the evening and when we opened the door we were followed in my a couple hundred skeeters. I swatted at them for about a half hour making sure the kids wouldn't get bitten in bed. Bloody streaks all down the wall as I was killing them, it almost looked like a murder scene.

Evenings seem to be especially bad because the wind picks up and a certain amount of them will land on you with the help of the wind before landing on the treated yard.

Anyway, woke up the next morning and sprayed the yard like I normally do but this time I also sprayed the dirt under the house, the underside of the deck, the ceiling of the porch and all the eves. It made a world of difference that evening. I highly reccomend spraying as much as you can. It really helps.

This next week when I spray again, I am going to drop the rate and see how effective it is. I recently spoke to someone who uses Bifen for his Mosquito spraying business and he sprays 1/2 oz per gallon with good results. As much as I am spraying this year, I would love to cut down on the amount I am using.

I'll get back to you guys.

bellsisland
08-16-2012, 09:21 AM
Ok, if you have mosquitos get online and by this product now.

On my side yard, if you walked over there you would have at least 20 mosquitos on you in a heart beat and they would tear you up. Last week I spayed bifren, and yesterday I was over there all afternoon and not one did I see. Spayed the whole backyard and haven't see one since.

Unbelievable!:thumbsup:

Forget them all. Buy 3/4 gallons of Bifen IT. Spray it at a rate of 3/4 oz to a gallon of water.

You won't see a mosquito, an ant, a roach, a termite, nothing. It's safe for pets, children, and adults as soon as it's dry. We spray an acre about once every 3 months as well as all my neighbors in an area of Texas that is known for the biggest mosquitos that travel the furthest. We hardly ever see one and we are right on the water.

Only thing not to spray on is plants you intend to eat.

We dilute 1oz per gallon and use in house as well.

You will think I'm a god later! I swear...you'll get your outdoor life back. You should pay less than $60 per 3/4 gallon jug. Ive been buying it at a case price from a local feed store (4 jugs to a case) for just under $50 each and splitting it up with my neighbors.

Please let me know your result. And seriously don't waste your money on anything else...I already did for you.

The inventors should really pay me...I am a walking commercial for the stuff.

camnbo
08-16-2012, 10:37 AM
http://www.mistaway.com/

I had one of these installed in my backyard in January. Have not seen one, not one, mosquito in my yard since the day it was installed. I live in way south hot ass Alabama and there is a bog of standing water 100 feet from my back door. It's freakin awesome!

tomfrmnh
08-16-2012, 02:02 PM
That Bifen stuff looks interesting. I have been using High Yield 38 plus (38% permetherin) through a Stihl backpack sprayer http://www.stihlusa.com/products/sprayers/backpack-blower-and-sprayer/sr450/ It works well. Best if applied just before dusk or dawn and it lasts about 7-10 days. If it rains hard (standing water and puddles) usually have to re-apply. As stated with the Bifen, be sure to hit everything especially under decks and crawl spaces and also shrubs and trees. Works on ants, roaches, earwigs, just about anything that is considered an insect.

bellsisland
08-16-2012, 02:39 PM
I have had 2 hard rains since I put the bifren down, and still no sqeeters. Also if you put it on fire ants, they don't move 4 feet over, it kills the mound

bamaboy473
08-16-2012, 02:42 PM
That Bifen stuff looks interesting. I have been using High Yield 38 plus (38% permetherin) through a Stihl backpack sprayer http://www.stihlusa.com/products/sprayers/backpack-blower-and-sprayer/sr450/ It works well. Best if applied just before dusk or dawn and it lasts about 7-10 days. If it rains hard (standing water and puddles) usually have to re-apply. As stated with the Bifen, be sure to hit everything especially under decks and crawl spaces and also shrubs and trees. Works on ants, roaches, earwigs, just about anything that is considered an insect.

same for Bifen. I guess price is the answer. $39 for 3Qt plus shipping for Bifen

jrolin1
08-16-2012, 03:16 PM
That Bifen stuff looks interesting. I have been using High Yield 38 plus (38% permetherin) through a Stihl backpack sprayer http://www.stihlusa.com/products/sprayers/backpack-blower-and-sprayer/sr450/ It works well. Best if applied just before dusk or dawn and it lasts about 7-10 days. If it rains hard (standing water and puddles) usually have to re-apply. As stated with the Bifen, be sure to hit everything especially under decks and crawl spaces and also shrubs and trees. Works on ants, roaches, earwigs, just about anything that is considered an insect.

The Bifen has been lasting me much longer than 7-10 days you are getting with the 38 plus. Even with a lot of rain.

never2rough
08-16-2012, 04:04 PM
If i fired up old 225 evinrude with premix fuel you and your county would not have any bugs.

bamaboy473
08-16-2012, 05:00 PM
The Bifen has been lasting me much longer than 7-10 days you are getting with the 38 plus. Even with a lot of rain.

Maybe the season, maybe the heavy rains we've (thankfully) had this summer, but I'm spraying regularly. I haven't tried it as an ant killer, but will do so if the danged ants stay dead and don't drift around the yards.

freedbaby
08-16-2012, 07:07 PM
That Bifen stuff looks interesting. I have been using High Yield 38 plus (38% permetherin) through a Stihl backpack sprayer http://www.stihlusa.com/products/sprayers/backpack-blower-and-sprayer/sr450/ It works well. Best if applied just before dusk or dawn and it lasts about 7-10 days. If it rains hard (standing water and puddles) usually have to re-apply. As stated with the Bifen, be sure to hit everything especially under decks and crawl spaces and also shrubs and trees. Works on ants, roaches, earwigs, just about anything that is considered an insect.

Try the Bifen one time...You for throw away all that other stuff. Guaranteed!!! I sprayed my place on the bay a month ago and still no skeeters.

The last time I sprayed I sprayed under the whole house as well as under all the eves...I noticed that it helped tremendously. Should last a long long time since neither one of those two places get moisture, or at least not much.

Mardi-Gras
08-16-2012, 07:17 PM
Bifen ftw...

no more of this....

freedbaby
08-17-2012, 07:05 AM
There was a story on TV here in Houston about all the chemicals we spray for Mosquito's and how its affecting the bee population. Remember, don't spray anything you plan to eat or flowering plants where bees pollinate.

If you live on the water, spray wisely. Bifen is NOT water soluble and will stay on the water and can harm fish.

Fantastic Chemical, again just spray wisely.

fishingfun
08-17-2012, 07:30 AM
The bifen stuff works great and I've only sprayed two times this summer. Just did the around the yard and not my grass.

Chronic Obsession
08-24-2012, 12:32 PM
I have tried several things in an attempt to get rid of the mosquitos in my yard( I live in South Florida) and none of them worked... I was skeptical about the bifen IT but since I've recvd' so much great advice from this forum I bought a case of the stuff.
I sprayed my back yard and most of my front on Tuesday of this week. Since then I have noticed very few mosquitos in the yard where before You could not go outside in the morning/evening without getting carried away. I believe with one more douching they will no longer be a problem!!! I have tried the mosquito magnet...foggers ...thermacell ... off .. etc ... and none have even come close to what the bifen IT does...
FWIW I purchased mine from domyownpestcontrol.com( a case was $150.00... 4 3/4 gallon jugs)... I have also ordered other items from them ( dominion 2L for white flies) and have been very satisfied with them!


Thanks Again !!! :tht_rulez::tht_rulez::tht_rulez::tht_rulez:

jrolin1
08-24-2012, 12:59 PM
I just bought another 3/4 gallon off of ebay for 41 bucks shipped. I still had some left but don't want to run short. It works great.

FaddaWayne
08-24-2012, 01:18 PM
Just got the Bifen XTS 25.1% Bifenthrin Oil Base Multi Use Pest Control Insecticide Concentrate 32 oz ($37.68) for outside and Bifen I/T Insecticide/Termiticide 16 oz for inside ($19.05) from Amazon.

Going to mix the XTS 1oz to 4 gallons for outside and I/T 1oz to 1 gallon for inside. The XTS is oil based and stronger than the I/T, supposed to last much longer outside even after rains which we get a lot this time of the year. Got myself a nice 4 gallon backpack sprayer for the yard and will just use my current 2 gallon for the interior. Stuff works I'm just excited to see how much better the XTS works.

By the way on white flies, I had a major issue with them on my hedges as well as shrubs and after I sprayed the entire yard with I/T I have almost eradicated them. Another great product to fight them is Merit, just put this around the base of affected plants (Not fruit trees) and they absorb the stuff and kills off the flies in a more sustainable manner than spraying continually.

chrisrack
08-24-2012, 02:20 PM
Is that formulation dissolved in water? The name implies it to be an oil-based product and needs to be applied undiluted (such as a termite control product) or diluted in an oil. If you try to apply an oil-based product in a "heavy/wet spray" for residual control of mosquitoes, you will kill the vegetation around your house.

Just got the Bifen XTS 25.1% Bifenthrin Oil Base Multi Use Pest Control Insecticide Concentrate 32 oz ($37.68) for outside and Bifen I/T Insecticide/Termiticide 16 oz for inside ($19.05) from Amazon.

Going to mix the XTS 1oz to 4 gallons for outside and I/T 1oz to 1 gallon for inside. The XTS is oil based and stronger than the I/T, supposed to last much longer outside even after rains which we get a lot this time of the year. Got myself a nice 4 gallon backpack sprayer for the yard and will just use my current 2 gallon for the interior. Stuff works I'm just excited to see how much better the XTS works.

By the way on white flies, I had a major issue with them on my hedges as well as shrubs and after I sprayed the entire yard with I/T I have almost eradicated them. Another great product to fight them is Merit, just put this around the base of affected plants (Not fruit trees) and they absorb the stuff and kills off the flies in a more sustainable manner than spraying continually.

FaddaWayne
08-24-2012, 06:44 PM
Bifen Xts can be used for pre and post construction termite treatment, turf and ornamentals, and outdoor perimeter pest control. With its broad label and long residual control, PMP's and customers will be pleased and satisfied making Bifen XTS their high performance, most cost effective Bifenthrin product Bifen XTS 25.1% Oil Based Formula Unlike the water based Bifenthrin in Talstar Pro, Bifen I/T & Masterline Bifenthrin. Bifen XTS is a new oil based product which allows it to have much longer residual and water resistant. It also contains 25.1 % vs. 7.9% active ingredient. You get more for your money. This product is very effective for controlling most insects on your lawn and around the perimeter of your house as well as termites. 32 oz bottle will make 100 gallons of insecticide and 1 gallon will treat 1,000 square feet. Active Ingredient: 25.1% Bifenthrin ALWAYS READ THE LABEL BEFORE USE!!

Barnacled
08-26-2012, 09:29 AM
Biters die!!!
Bifen works like no other I have seen.

Sprayed I/T yesterday and no bites today. Unfuggin believable!

Chronic Obsession
08-27-2012, 11:03 AM
I have eradicated my mosquito problem...
I did not get bit once this weekend.......
Thanks to the OP for starting this thread!!!
:tht_rulez::tht_rulez::tht_rulez::tht_rulez:

bellsisland
08-27-2012, 08:12 PM
Well it has been weeks and multiple rain storms, not too mention I had to mow the grass. Still no sqeeters. We have a weeks worth of rain coming and I am going to spray again should take me into the fall. Hasn't stopped the nats though, not sure how to attach those bastards?

freedbaby
08-28-2012, 08:33 PM
Glad to hear its working guys!!!! Keep spraying...maybe we can actually impact the mosquito population!!!!

Bifen for president!!! Lol

Barnacled
09-09-2012, 04:08 AM
Biters die!!!
Bifen works like no other I have seen.

Sprayed I/T yesterday and no bites today. Unfuggin believable!Still no skeeters after about 20" of rain from Isaac and the spawn of Isaac.

West Nile is spreading so a bump for a great solution.

mwgoldman
09-09-2012, 12:23 PM
thanks for bumping this up. don't know how I missed the other go arounds, will be ordering immediately.

freedbaby
09-09-2012, 06:39 PM
I am now spraying less than 3/4 of an oz per gallon. I am down to about 2/3 oz per gallon amd seeing no change in results.

Last time I sprayed which was two weeks ago, I sprayed 16 oz to 26 gallons of water.

FaddaWayne
09-09-2012, 09:29 PM
Sprayed 1/3rd oz per gallon and 8 gallons total of Bifen XTS using a finer nozzle on a 4 gallon backpack sprayer, rain shortly after, mosquito's no where to be found, many dead centipede's after, hedges, grass, house, everything covered, this stuff is awesome, 2 2/3rds oz's for our entire property of 1/2 acre with house and results almost instantly. All plants look healthy and nice, bugs dieing everywhere... Stuff is even better than Bifen I/T longer residual, will report in a few months...

OldPete
09-25-2012, 02:39 PM
Sprayed 1/3rd oz per gallon and 8 gallons total of Bifen XTS using a finer nozzle on a 4 gallon backpack sprayer, rain shortly after, mosquito's no where to be found, many dead centipede's after, hedges, grass, house, everything covered, this stuff is awesome, 2 2/3rds oz's for our entire property of 1/2 acre with house and results almost instantly. All plants look healthy and nice, bugs dieing everywhere... Stuff is even better than Bifen I/T longer residual, will report in a few months...

I too just ordered some of the XTS. It's the same thing, only in 25% instead of 7% -- so more for the buck and just use less of it for same results as the IT one...

My wife and I are the first ones to shy away from this sort of stuff, but we've had all we can take... I'm going to go with a low-dose and see what happens. We eat all meals outside and I'm tired of my kids looking like a pin cushion. From what I'm reading the stuff is used EVERYWHERE... not that it makes it "safe" or right...

On a different note, I plan to use it at XTS levels for termite control too.

Thumbs up to freedbaby!

freedbaby
03-29-2013, 02:10 AM
Seasonal Bump for Bifen IT

It's just now getting close to Skeeter weather. Make sure you got your Bifen as an added layer of protection to West Nile. Will also take care of fire ants, as well as roaches and lots of other insects

SPRAY EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR FLOWERING PLANTS SO AS NOT TO HARM HONEY BEES...spray eves, decks, under deck, yard, beds, base of slab etc...

Let me know if you have questions. I am using 16oz of chemical in a 26 gallon sprayer with great results. Depending on a lot of factors the answer to "how often" will vary...I'm spraying about 4 times a year.

Fl Fisherman
03-29-2013, 04:52 AM
I have used Bifen here in south Ga and it does work great.
It also works great on ant beds.Kills them dead .

bamaboy473
03-29-2013, 05:44 AM
I have used Bifen here in south Ga and it does work great.
It also works great on ant beds.Kills them dead .


Our little neighborhood has 1 1/2 acre lots, so lots of underbrush and woods around...and neighboring properties have cows and horses, so every kind of flying/crawling critter known to man.
Neighbor across the street began complaining about mosquitos and ants as soon as we met him (about a year ago).

We read about Bifen and began using it. All summer around the outdoor pool, no mosquitoes. Any hill have gone from several dozen last year, to an occasional start-up, that gets Bifen and then disappears. No more yellow flies or horse flies.

It also makes the plants healthier by killing aphids and white flies. Great stuff.

As cgrand said, though, don't be spraying during flower season, as it will kill our honey bees.

Barnacled
05-12-2013, 06:20 PM
Bump for a great solution.

Ray Zor
05-12-2013, 07:21 PM
Bifin IT

tcontic
05-13-2013, 12:10 AM
Forget them all. Buy 3/4 gallons of Bifen IT. Spray it at a rate of 3/4 oz to a gallon of water.

You won't see a mosquito, an ant, a roach, a termite, nothing. It's safe for pets, children, and adults as soon as it's dry. We spray an acre about once every 3 months as well as all my neighbors in an area of Texas that is known for the biggest mosquitos that travel the furthest. We hardly ever see one and we are right on the water.

Only thing not to spray on is plants you intend to eat.

We dilute 1oz per gallon and use in house as well.

You will think I'm a god later! I swear...you'll get your outdoor life back. You should pay less than $60 per 3/4 gallon jug. Ive been buying it at a case price from a local feed store (4 jugs to a case) for just under $50 each and splitting it up with my neighbors.

Please let me know your result. And seriously don't waste your money on anything else...I already did for you.

The inventors should really pay me...I am a walking commercial for the stuff.

What do you spray with?

jrolin1
05-13-2013, 03:29 AM
I spray with a backpack sprayer. I have sprayed it with a dial hose end sprayer before I got the backpack sprayer. I got tired of lugging the hose around the yard.

bellsisland
05-13-2013, 04:37 AM
I sprayed all of the beds, and not the grass and have been having a lot of skeeters? Should I be spraying the grass as well?

Ronn Burgandy
05-13-2013, 05:23 AM
Okay, you guys have me interested. Any idea if it works on ticks?

My back yard is woods, as is across the street. Should I be spraying the woods in the back? Same question on the grass as above.

Thanks all.

bamaboy473
05-13-2013, 05:23 AM
I sprayed all of the beds, and not the grass and have been having a lot of skeeters? Should I be spraying the grass as well?

I don't spray our grass. Spray goes on all plants, on the underside of leaves where possible. I don't spray higher than about 8 feet off the ground, unless I'm doing magnolias for the whitespot aphids.

bellsisland
05-13-2013, 05:29 AM
Does it go bad? I still had half a jug from last year, but I have sprayed 2 times in a month on all of the beds and I got my ass tore up last night by them? I guess I will be spraying again, I have used a hose end sprayer and a pump up style?
It worked better last year, but not having as much luck this year.

jtburf
05-13-2013, 05:40 AM
Does it go bad? I still had half a jug from last year, but I have sprayed 2 times in a month on all of the beds and I got my ass tore up last night by them? I guess I will be spraying again, I have used a hose end sprayer and a pump up style?
It worked better last year, but not having as much luck this year.

It does not have a very long shelf life if exposed to hot or cold.

Try a new batch and see what happens.

Been using for Termites and inside pest for years and I just buy a new bottle every year.

John

BodieTaylor
05-13-2013, 05:47 AM
well just ordered 3/4 gallon so hope it works as advertised

No see ums and skeeters killing us. We just built a new fire pit so hoping to use it bug free in a few days.

I will report back, also will keep it off of flowering plants for sake of honey bees.

jrolin1
05-13-2013, 07:32 AM
Okay, you guys have me interested. Any idea if it works on ticks?

My back yard is woods, as is across the street. Should I be spraying the woods in the back? Same question on the grass as above.

Thanks all.

Yes it works on ticks. I spray into the woods, at least a little ways to get any nearby biting bugs. If you spray the grass it will take care of ant problems also. I alternate and spray the grass every other time since I am more concerned with biting bugs and it takes ants a little while to get established.

NJFISH
05-13-2013, 07:41 AM
Sprayed it last week on the sides of my house because I've had some carpenter bees boring holes. The day after I sprayed, I saw them fly to the house then get "repelled". Haven't seen them since. I also noticed that before bifen I would always have to swat the moths away from the door in the morning on my way out where the outdoor spotlight is on all night. Now, no more moths on the house. I'm going to spray some of the low hanging branches where mosquitoes tend to hang in the brush. I had used pump sprayer in the past but this time I used a dial-sprayer on hose.

freedbaby
05-13-2013, 01:29 PM
Sprayed it last week on the sides of my house because I've had some carpenter bees boring holes. The day after I sprayed, I saw them fly to the house then get "repelled". Haven't seen them since. I also noticed that before bifen I would always have to swat the moths away from the door in the morning on my way out where the outdoor spotlight is on all night. Now, no more moths on the house. I'm going to spray some of the low hanging branches where mosquitoes tend to hang in the brush. I had used pump sprayer in the past but this time I used a dial-sprayer on hose.

I use the cheap green Gilmore with the black dial and it works fantastic. Glad to hear its still working for everyone.

I fear that if it gets too popular, the government will outlaw it...maybe we should keep this thread hush hush :rofl:

WildLines
05-13-2013, 06:18 PM
http://www.callthegman.com/

this is a franchise deal, so you would have to find a local company. Howver, this is what I am getting. Cost is equal to a sprinkler system. They heads go in bushes, fences, eaves. It works super good, been to several houses on the marsh in the evening and not a bite all had this product. If you go outside the sprayed area you will get bit.

WildLines
05-17-2013, 05:40 PM
are you guys spraying this biffirin under your house eaves or will it stain the wood?

jrolin1
05-17-2013, 07:01 PM
are you guys spraying this biffirin under your house eaves or will it stain the wood?

I am. I have not seen any staining. It is very diluted.

Bamby
05-18-2013, 02:30 AM
are you guys spraying this biffirin under your house eaves or will it stain the wood?

We experienced a horrible spider problem on the boat last year. After a through cleaning all the spider crap off of everything and allowing it to dry I sprayed everything down with Bifen. It dried clear and unobservable and even better it completely took care of our spider issue. From that point on the few we found on the boat were the best kind of spiders, dead spiders.

freedbaby
05-19-2013, 06:28 AM
are you guys spraying this biffirin under your house eaves or will it stain the wood?

I spray under the eaves, under the deck, halfway up the walls, the stairs....pretty much everything. The eaves and walls really just need a once or maybe twice a year spraying. It takes a long time for it to wear off those areas.

WildLines
05-19-2013, 05:56 PM
Thanks guys, should have some here this week and will report back.

Ronn Burgandy
05-20-2013, 04:25 AM
Ugh, the people's republic of mass has outlawed the stuff. Gotta figure it a different way to get it.

Ill do some diligence, but what are the side effects?

jrolin1
05-20-2013, 04:41 AM
The side effects are dead bugs. ;)

freedbaby
05-20-2013, 06:41 AM
Ugh, the people's republic of mass has outlawed the stuff. Gotta figure it a different way to get it.

Ill do some diligence, but what are the side effects?

Oh thats terrible...Can't you just buy it online like everyone else does?

north coast
05-20-2013, 08:04 AM
Ugh, the people's republic of mass has outlawed the stuff. Gotta figure it a different way to get it.

Ill do some diligence, but what are the side effects?

really? guess I'm a criminal then.

Ronn Burgandy
05-20-2013, 09:17 AM
Oh thats terrible...Can't you just buy it online like everyone else does?

Wont ship to this state, or so it says. I'm close enough to the NH border and have family up there. Ordering now.

BodieTaylor
05-20-2013, 09:52 AM
if you cant buy it there, all that means is it work really good

freedbaby
05-20-2013, 09:55 AM
Wont ship to this state, or so it says. I'm close enough to the NH border and have family up there. Ordering now.

You better order a LOT.

Its funny, both my neighbors at my bay house are older, retired guys and one of them has always said we need to be careful. If it works too good, the government will find a way to either tax it or outlaw it.

I guess he may not be too far off.

OldPete
05-24-2013, 10:47 AM
I just got done doing the house and the ground around it (except for flowering plants, edibles, etc.) -- It's heaven out here... not a single bug near me and almost no wind. I'm reasonably certain that from a nervous system point of view, the stuff is some bad crap (I don't care about the "it's safe when it's dry" BS)... but I have to say, quality of life with this stuff is superb.

I did the high % stuff (termite grade) around the perimeter of the dwelling and then a weaker mix for all the lot coverage area as well as around the doors and windows and the under the eaves.

I couldn't be happier with it.

Let's just hope we're not cooking our nervous system... or worse, that of our kid's. :(

INCORRIGIBLE
05-25-2013, 06:31 AM
Freedbaby has been recommending Bifen IT for more than a year.

We decided to try it at home and other property.

It work's better than anything I have used in the past and trust me.....we know mosquito's as good or better than anyone.



Forget them all. Buy 3/4 gallons of Bifen IT. Spray it at a rate of 3/4 oz to a gallon of water.

You won't see a mosquito, an ant, a roach, a termite, nothing. It's safe for pets, children, and adults as soon as it's dry. We spray an acre about once every 3 months as well as all my neighbors in an area of Texas that is known for the biggest mosquitos that travel the furthest. We hardly ever see one and we are right on the water.

Only thing not to spray on is plants you intend to eat.

We dilute 1oz per gallon and use in house as well.

You will think I'm a god later! I swear...you'll get your outdoor life back. You should pay less than $60 per 3/4 gallon jug. Ive been buying it at a case price from a local feed store (4 jugs to a case) for just under $50 each and splitting it up with my neighbors.

Please let me know your result. And seriously don't waste your money on anything else...I already did for you.

The inventors should really pay me...I am a walking commercial for the stuff.

freedbaby
05-27-2013, 11:08 PM
Freedbaby has been recommending Bifen IT for more than a year.

We decided to try it at home and other property.

It work's better than anything I have used in the past and trust me.....we know mosquito's as good or better than anyone.

Yes, we do know skeeters in our area...really glad to hear it worked :thumbsup: (not that I was surprised ;cool;)

Lively-Lines
06-04-2013, 09:23 AM
Forget them all. Buy 3/4 gallons of Bifen IT. Spray it at a rate of 3/4 oz to a gallon of water.


FreedBaby, is this mixture you use 3 quarters of an ounce or 3 to 4 ounces to a gallon of water?

Thanks - I've bought Bifen, now I'm just trying to find time to spray it.

jrolin1
06-04-2013, 10:01 AM
FreedBaby, is this mixture you use 3 quarters of an ounce or 3 to 4 ounces to a gallon of water?

Thanks - I've bought Bifen, now I'm just trying to find time to spray it.

3 quarters of an ounce to the gallon is what I use with great results.

Lively-Lines
06-04-2013, 11:01 AM
3 quarters of an ounce to the gallon is what I use with great results.

Great, thanks!!

freedbaby
06-04-2013, 12:53 PM
Great, thanks!!

sorry, didn't see this. yes 3/4 of an ounce of Bifen per gallon. I use the weak concentrate, not the crazy strong one.

round2it
06-13-2013, 07:26 PM
bump

Ray Zor
06-14-2013, 04:46 PM
One more item to add:
Late at night when there is no wind, I will place a fogger (hotshot,cutter,ect...) canister in a tiki torch holder and fog my porches, esp around any light source. The tiki holder helps to get real close to eaves and light fixtures around soffetts. Over the next few weeks you will notice hundreds of tiny skeeter corpses on your porch. Works real well.

TheRealMacGyver
06-14-2013, 05:52 PM
Bifen is great stuff for sure.

Another point that has probably been mentioned somewhere and we all know ( but often forget).....make sure you don't have standing water AND clean your gutters!

Barnacled
07-04-2013, 06:23 PM
Bump for some great stuff.

Too busy to spray for some time and the skeeters got thick all of a sudden. Did a quick 3 gallon run and no bugs the next day....amazing! If I did a thorough spray on the entire property I bet I can go till Labor Day.

bearohs
07-05-2013, 05:19 AM
Is this the same product as Termidor?
I use that for spot treatment of ants.

My issue is my backyard (live in central FL) is 1.5 acres of grass, with a handful of citrus and guava trees. My wife has a TON of flower beds. I dont want to kill any bees and not pollinate the fruits, nor eat this stuff..

Any input?

JB

jrolin1
07-07-2013, 09:35 AM
Is this the same product as Termidor?
I use that for spot treatment of ants.

My issue is my backyard (live in central FL) is 1.5 acres of grass, with a handful of citrus and guava trees. My wife has a TON of flower beds. I dont want to kill any bees and not pollinate the fruits, nor eat this stuff..

Any input?

JB

Bifen is not the same as Termidor. Termidor kills and bifen kills and repels. I just don't spray it on my garden or flowers to keep the bees safe.

Rival1
07-07-2013, 12:02 PM
How does malathion compare to bifen?
It gets great reviews online as well.

DoubleO7
07-07-2013, 12:19 PM
You can save big bucks by not buying name brand.
There are numerous "generics" that contain the exact active ingredient.
Bifenthrin 7.9%

I use it on the yard.
Wipes out fleas, fire ants, roaches, etc. for 3 to 5 months.

freedbaby
07-07-2013, 06:05 PM
How does malathion compare to bifen?
It gets great reviews online as well.

Don't waste your time. My neighbor swears by it, sprays it all the time...and he's the only one swatting away while mowing the yard.

bearohs
07-07-2013, 06:06 PM
Whew I got a jug of termidor that is bad ass on ants.. BUT never thought it would do much for skeeters.

Pricey stuff tho.

Barnacled
07-07-2013, 06:29 PM
You can save big bucks by not buying name brand.
There are numerous "generics" that contain the exact active ingredient.
Bifenthrin 7.9%

I use it on the yard.
Wipes out fleas, fire ants, roaches, etc. for 3 to 5 months.
Names...links?

jrolin1
07-07-2013, 06:42 PM
Names...links?

I bought my last one from these guys. 3/4 gallon Bifen IT for 32 bucks and 12.60 shipping for me. They have generic also but there is not a big difference in price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BiFen-I-T-3-4-gallon-Termite-pest-Control-Ants-tallstar-generic-on-sale-/280872872189?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416553e8fd

rkatz
07-07-2013, 08:57 PM
Skeeters were making my yard unlivable lately. A couple of gallons and an hour or so and not a skeeter in sight tonight. Freedbaby, you da man!

Chronic Obsession
07-07-2013, 11:52 PM
I've been using Bifen for a year or so... At first spray no more mosquitos... But after several months the spraying didn't seem to work as well... had some monster mosquitos buzzing around and couldn't figure out why... Then one afternoon I was rolling my garden hose up( we have one of those self roll up hoses in the plastic box/container) and noticed several large mosquitos inside the hose box.... we to the garage and got my sprayer of bifen... when i opened the hose box and sprayed inside monster mosquitos started flying out like flies on honey... this seemed to decrease our mosquito population a bit but still had some buzzin... walked the yard and found where my wife had hung some ceramic flower pots on the fence with no holes in the bottom.... poured bleach in the ones with standing water and larva and drilled holes... again this seemed to decrease the population but still had the lil fkers buzzin.... scratchin my head i ordered the bifen Xts... sprayed and again less mosquitos but still some buzzin around.... So I start scanning my yard and focus on three pods of travelers palms.... I cut them down 1 week ago and burned the roots.... I haven't seen one mosquito since i got rid of the travelers palms... the tops were filled with standing water.
I can enjoy my yard agin!!!!

mikelindbeck
07-08-2013, 03:34 AM
Great post! What is the best sprayer to use? I lawn, flower beds, dock and deck. Thanks for the help.hope to buy everything I need today.

mfix
07-08-2013, 03:42 AM
I've been using Bifen for a year or so... At first spray no more mosquitos... But after several months the spraying didn't seem to work as well... had some monster mosquitos buzzing around and couldn't figure out why... Then one afternoon I was rolling my garden hose up( we have one of those self roll up hoses in the plastic box/container) and noticed several large mosquitos inside the hose box.... we to the garage and got my sprayer of bifen... when i opened the hose box and sprayed inside monster mosquitos started flying out like flies on honey... this seemed to decrease our mosquito population a bit but still had some buzzin... walked the yard and found where my wife had hung some ceramic flower pots on the fence with no holes in the bottom.... poured bleach in the ones with standing water and larva and drilled holes... again this seemed to decrease the population but still had the lil fkers buzzin.... scratchin my head i ordered the bifen Xts... sprayed and again less mosquitos but still some buzzin around.... So I start scanning my yard and focus on three pods of travelers palms.... I cut them down 1 week ago and burned the roots.... I haven't seen one mosquito since i got rid of the travelers palms... the tops were filled with standing water.
I can enjoy my yard agin!!!!

How do you get all the neighbors to do this too?

freedbaby
07-08-2013, 04:22 AM
Great post! What is the best sprayer to use? I lawn, flower beds, dock and deck. Thanks for the help.hope to buy everything I need today.

A cheap garden sprayer that attaches to your hose will work just fine. Start with about 3/4 oz to a gallon and spray EVERYTHING...except for veggies and flowering plants that bees pollinate.

mikeloew
07-08-2013, 05:18 PM
I would love to try this, Is this safe around dogs? Also I have a man made pond in my back yard, with big Koi. I don't think the pond is a breeding ground as the water is in constant movement. But I have lots of landscaping plants, shrubs, trees around the pond that I would also like to treat with this. If I kill any of my fish my wife would kill me:rofl: our Koi are 18 years old.

DoubleO7
07-08-2013, 05:26 PM
Names...links?

Five years or so ago there was a good spread.
Noaw it appears to be a tight market.
$42 per 3/4 gallon jug delivered seems to be the norm no matter what brand.
Next jug for me will be the Bifen XT oil based stuff.

Barnacled
07-08-2013, 05:38 PM
Next jug for me will be the Bifen XT oil based stuff.:thumbsup:

Although I have plenty of the regular Bifen I'm tempted to get a jug of XT and give the other away to naysayers or use when we are camping.

Venture34
07-08-2013, 05:39 PM
Who here is certain Bifen wont cause cancer down the line? Is it worth the risk?

I am very cynical when it comes to for profit enterprises tell me something is safe. I have seen enough to know they will lie for a dollar, even if it kills grandma in the process.

Barnacled
07-08-2013, 05:47 PM
West nile virus is very real and present here...I personally know two men who almost died from it.
Bifen claims to be safe once dry and besides, what's another carcinogen on top of the many we deal with daily. :grin:

freedbaby
07-08-2013, 05:49 PM
West nile virus is very real and present here...I personally know two men who almost died from it.
Bifen claims to be safe once dry and besides, what's another carcinogen on top of the many we deal with daily. :grin:

Exactly the way I see it. You eat berries and broccoli right?!?!?!

chrisrack
07-08-2013, 06:05 PM
Who here is certain Bifen wont cause cancer down the line? Is it worth the risk?

I am very cynical when it comes to for profit enterprises tell me something is safe. I have seen enough to know they will lie for a dollar, even if it kills grandma in the process.


None of the synthetic pyrethroids (or natural pythrins) are considered to be a carcinogen even at VERY high rates of exposure. Bifenthrin is a member of the SP family.

The US EPA is the Federal agency that is responsible for testing, evaluating and registering these products for public use. After a 5-15 year evaluation process, the EPA is able to state "when this product is used according to label instructions, it poses no unacceptable risks to humans, toddlers, infants or the environment including non-target animals".

chrisrack
07-08-2013, 06:07 PM
West nile virus is very real and present here...I personally know two men who almost died from it.
Bifen claims to be safe once dry and besides, what's another carcinogen on top of the many we deal with daily. :grin:

WNV, Dengue, malaria, EEE, WEE, VE are all diseases spread by mosquitoes. Mosquitoes remain the deadlist animal in the world. Each year over 3 million people are killed annually by this little critter.

chrisrack
07-08-2013, 06:12 PM
Who here is certain Bifen wont cause cancer down the line? Is it worth the risk?

I am very cynical when it comes to for profit enterprises tell me something is safe. I have seen enough to know they will lie for a dollar, even if it kills grandma in the process.


There was a study recently completed the the CDC and they clearly demonstrated that the use of insecticides to control mosquitoes presents no health compromises to humans. At the same time, the potential for those individuals residing in treatment areas had a much lower chance of contracting a mosquito-borne disease.

FaddaWayne
07-08-2013, 07:20 PM
There was a study recently completed the the CDC and they clearly demonstrated that the use of insecticides to control mosquitoes presents no health compromises to humans. At the same time, the potential for those individuals residing in treatment areas had a much lower chance of contracting a mosquito-borne disease.

Very reassuring to hear. I still wear long sleeves, long pants, full shoes, gloves, mask and when it's windy safety glasses. XTS outside at 1/2oz per gallon and IT inside at 1oz per gallon. Always let a good four hours pass before I allow my three year old anywhere near where I sprayed, longer if possible. Been doing it quarterly now over a year.

Huge reduction in mosquitoes, haven't seen an ants nests since I started, hit 6 with a soaking spray the first time. White flies are under control, very few centipedes outside and haven't seen one inside since I started spraying, few if any cockroaches.

Only thing I'd like is to identify a similar chemical to alternate sprays with as I've read some species can develop immunity after a while.

Still very happy with the product and not grown any horns yet so I'll keep spraying away and saving $150+ per quarter for the bug man...:tht_rulez::thumbsup:::thumbsup:

gtrfred
07-09-2013, 09:22 AM
I have been meaning to spray my yard again, but we have so much rain that I haven't been able to find the time.

Does the grass and stuff need to be dry when spraying? If so how long does it need to be dry after spraying?

last week it was rain storm after storm.

reelyreely
07-09-2013, 11:34 AM
spreading some used cooking oil in standing water i.e. ditches, flooded areas etc smothers the larvae. They can last for a LONG time without water and then when areas fill bingo squiters. If you pour just a little used cooking oil into the first sign of standing water those little bloodsuckers will die off. No larvae, no squiters. Or so I have been told :grin:

chrisrack
07-09-2013, 11:45 AM
spreading some used cooking oil in standing water i.e. ditches, flooded areas etc smothers the larvae. They can last for a LONG time without water and then when areas fill bingo squiters. If you pour just a little used cooking oil into the first sign of standing water those little bloodsuckers will die off. No larvae, no squiters. Or so I have been told :grin:


Don't waste your time with cooking oil. First, it will kill your vegetation; and second, it's not a good mosquito larvicide ...... it doesn't evenly spread across the water surface but rather clumps and leaves many open areas where larvae can continue to breath.

FaddaWayne
07-13-2013, 09:49 AM
Anyone use http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UUZ3OI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1L0J6J9ZYHA6P. 36.8% Permethrin SFR Multi Use Pest Control Insecticide. Thinking I may alternate this and Bifen every quarter to avoid any pests developing a resistance to either.

chrisrack
07-13-2013, 11:43 AM
Permethrin doesn't have the residual of bifenthrin. You can expect 1-2 weeks from permethrin and typically 4 from bifenthrin.

FaddaWayne
07-13-2013, 04:39 PM
Permethrin doesn't have the residual of bifenthrin. You can expect 1-2 weeks from permethrin and typically 4 from bifenthrin.

Noted, thanks.

WildLines
07-13-2013, 06:42 PM
Sprays my 2 acres wed evening.

Worked in my yard last night and today...not a bug...live on a marsh.

I uses one of the 14 gallon 2.2gpm sprayers with a 12' boom.

The stuff is the real deal.

USMCsilver
09-10-2013, 02:32 PM
This thread has given me hopes!

I'm going to use a boomless 25 gallon sprayer on an ATV. It's near the end of the season, but I'll get a jump on those bastards for next year! :)

bellsisland
09-10-2013, 03:12 PM
I may switch to the higher power bifen, I have been spraying the regular, at 1oz per gallon and at first it worked great, but the last 2 times it knocked them down, but I am still getting some coming around. It is the little ones?

VanW
09-10-2013, 04:32 PM
Can you use the xt oil one with a garden hose sprayer?

chrisrack
09-10-2013, 06:17 PM
Can you use the xt oil one with a garden hose sprayer?

Hi Van ....... The short answer is "No". The XTS formulation of Bifenthrin is an oil-base and largely insoluble in water. Additionally, it is a restricted use product so it can only (legally) be purchased and applied by State-licensed pesticide applicators. Lastly, the XTS is intended to be a "structural-pest" insecticide such as termites. It's a product designed to be applied to the ground near your house foundation or near/on active colonies.

jrolin1
09-10-2013, 06:42 PM
I may switch to the higher power bifen, I have been spraying the regular, at 1oz per gallon and at first it worked great, but the last 2 times it knocked them down, but I am still getting some coming around. It is the little ones?

Bifen can go bad. Especially if stored outside in a building that gets hot and cold. The shelf life is greatly reduced when it is not stored in a temperature controlled area. So if that is an older container you may want to try a new batch.

freedbaby
09-10-2013, 07:55 PM
I may switch to the higher power bifen, I have been spraying the regular, at 1oz per gallon and at first it worked great, but the last 2 times it knocked them down, but I am still getting some coming around. It is the little ones?

Just up the ratio...I think you'll still come out ahead

Remember it will also depend on winds. A mosquito relies heavily on the wind...if they get blown onto the property and never land it doesn't matter how much you spray.

freedbaby
09-10-2013, 07:57 PM
Bifen can go bad. Especially if stored outside in a building that gets hot and cold. The shelf life is greatly reduced when it is not stored in a temperature controlled area. So if that is an older container you may want to try a new batch.

Not saying your wrong but I've never had Bifen go bad....ever

jrolin1
09-11-2013, 03:44 AM
Not saying your wrong but I've never had Bifen go bad....ever

You may be right. but I had some that did not seem effective that I had stored in my metal storage building that gets very hot and cold. I checked with the place that I bought it from..

"The manufacturer gives Talstar P and Bifen a shelf life of 3 years as long as you keep the top on the bottle and you do not store it in direct sunlight or in extreme temperatures. "
So I assumed that was the problem and keep it stored inside now.

bellsisland
09-11-2013, 06:05 AM
I had the same thing happen, I kept 1/4 a bottle over a year and sprayed it early this year. It did not have the same affect as when it was new? ;?


You may be right. but I had some that did not seem effective that I had stored in my metal storage building that gets very hot and cold. I checked with the place that I bought it from..

"The manufacturer gives Talstar P and Bifen a shelf life of 3 years as long as you keep the top on the bottle and you do not store it in direct sunlight or in extreme temperatures. "
So I assumed that was the problem and keep it stored inside now.

Chronic Obsession
09-12-2013, 10:30 AM
Me too... kept a partial bottle in my garage for an extended period and when used it did not seem as effective...
I bought the xts the last time... seems to work really well..... I think it's almost impossible at dusk and dawn not to have mosquitos but this product definately reduced them to almost non existent...

Mars5L
11-13-2013, 08:01 AM
hi boys

freedbaby
11-13-2013, 08:31 AM
For mosquito control, there are many products with Amazon, one of them is Mosquito Magnet which is very effective for mosquito control I would say.

and might I ask what you do for a living?????

hi boys

excuse me? "hi boys"

Mars5L
11-13-2013, 10:35 AM
coworkers in the shop using my computer and being funny



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