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08087
03-22-2012, 01:41 PM
I was driving to work today, the road is 2 lanes each direction, I'm in the left lane riding along side this older tour type bus in a 25MPH zone.

As we round a turn toward a red light the bus cuts the turn tight and pushes me into the oncoming lane, there were no cars coming in my direction so I move over and tap the horn as if to say, "Hey I'm here".

With that the driver now swerves toward me in a deliberate manner. I had a car directly behind me 25-30' so I speed up and pull in front of the bus (as I had to make a stop on the next block for a sandwich), now I'm in the right lane and the bus pulls up in the left lane, the driver opens his boarding door and yells toward me. Being a man I open my window and we exchange pleasantries. He decides to get off his bus and attack me, I'm in no position to win this fight as he is on my door and I could not get out if I wanted to (and I didn't want to). I don't know how people allow an argument to escalate into a battle.

Long story short there was a LEO behind us the whole time, he comes up between our vehicles and points to me, "You, get out of here I saw what happened, and you, Lic. reg, and ins. what the hell do you think you’re doing etc, etc," as the light turns green and I pull away. I stop on the next block to grab my pre ordered sandwich, look back and the A hole and smile! Finally a COP when you need one!

Don't know the outcome, cop sounded like a hard ass, if this guy wasn't all in order he was in trouble for sure, out of state plates and all.


Schmaltz~Herring
03-22-2012, 01:50 PM
That would qualify as Aggressive Driving here in GA, a serious traffic offense.

Boat Bum
03-22-2012, 02:38 PM
Re: Being a man I open my window and we exchange pleasantries.

You showed him. ;)


yarcraft91
03-22-2012, 02:48 PM
In Detroit, that bus driver would have been about 10 seconds away from shooting at you when the cop stepped in. LEO stopped a road rage incident in progress. A cop when you need one- thank goodness. :thumbsup:

triumphrick
03-22-2012, 02:49 PM
Re: Being a man I open my window and we exchange pleasantries.

You showed him. ;)


What would you have done?? ;?

Curious minds wanna know.....

Gator56
03-22-2012, 02:55 PM
I was driving to work today, the road is 2 lanes each direction, I'm in the left lane riding along side this older tour type bus in a 25MPH zone.

As we round a turn toward a red light the bus cuts the turn tight and pushes me into the oncoming lane, there were no cars coming in my direction so I move over and tap the horn as if to say, "Hey I'm here".

With that the driver now swerves toward me in a deliberate manner. I had a car directly behind me 25-30' so I speed up and pull in front of the bus (as I had to make a stop on the next block for a sandwich), now I'm in the right lane and the bus pulls up in the left lane, the driver opens his boarding door and yells toward me. Being a man I open my window and we exchange pleasantries. He decides to get off his bus and attack me, I'm in no position to win this fight as he is on my door and I could not get out if I wanted to (and I didn't want to). I don't know how people allow an argument to escalate into a battle.

Long story short there was a LEO behind us the whole time, he comes up between our vehicles and points to me, "You, get out of here I saw what happened, and you, Lic. reg, and ins. what the hell do you think you’re doing etc, etc," as the light turns green and I pull away. I stop on the next block to grab my pre ordered sandwich, look back and the A hole and smile! Finally a COP when you need one!

Don't know the outcome, cop sounded like a hard ass, if this guy wasn't all in order he was in trouble for sure, out of state plates and all.

What state is that?????????

Johnny Dreamer
03-22-2012, 02:57 PM
I've have texted "BACK OFF" into my phone and showed it to him. The full CAPS on and everything.

You never can be too careful.

bigjimmie
03-22-2012, 02:58 PM
What state is that?????????

State of Aggression:grin:

Gator56
03-22-2012, 03:01 PM
I have a short fuse when it comes to road rage. I was calling an agent the other day on a closing and my vehicle has bluetooth so I'm listening to it ring then her voice mail comes on and ask to leave a message about that time this junk old buick cuts in front of me and stops and all this is going on at about 50 mph and I start yelling you MF'er do you have your head up your a$$ or what about then he flips me a bird and I come apart telling him I'll F you up you piece of $hit about then the message comes back on the phone through the speakers letting me know that my message will be returned promptly.

Eyeball
03-22-2012, 03:15 PM
As we round a turn toward a red light the bus cuts the turn tight and pushes me into the oncoming lane, there were no cars coming in my direction so I move over and tap the horn as if to say, "Hey I'm here".



I would not have hit the horn -- I would have backed off and held back a few seconds, let the bus go and have the whole road before continuing on my way. There is nothing going on in my life that I need to risk dealing with anyone's road rage bullshit.

Your second err was not knowing there was a cop behind you. ;)

08087
03-22-2012, 03:37 PM
I would not have hit the horn -- I would have backed off and held back a few seconds, let the bus go and have the whole road before continuing on my way. There is nothing going on in my life that I need to risk dealing with anyone's road rage bullshit.

Your second err was not knowing there was a cop behind you. ;)

It was much more a tap of the horn than a hit of the horn. Like I said just to let him know I was next to him, I was having a great day to that point.

As for the "being a man" part, most of us have ego's and pride, sometimes misplaced. This was one of them for me but in all seriousness I never thought he was going to get off the bus, I was 50/50 with him saying "sorry I didn't see you there or him saying what he did." He was all WTF, I was in my lane etc. etc. If he was why'd he get so upset, I could have beeped the horn at the pretty girl on the corner for all he knew. But guilt kicked in and his animal instinct took over.

I laughed at him and told him to fuck off, that's when he made the dash toward the door. If I could have driven off I would have but I was blocked in by others in fronmt of me. He swung and hit the window, the COP saw it and it was over for me that quick.

Though for sure he'd have held me to make a complaint but instead he told me to take off.

tomfl
03-22-2012, 03:43 PM
In Detroit, that bus driver would have been about 10 seconds away from shooting at you when the cop stepped in. LEO stopped a road rage incident in progress. A cop when you need one- thank goodness. :thumbsup:

In south FL at least one of you would have wound up shot, if not both parties shot lol

glacierbaze
03-22-2012, 03:44 PM
I would not have hit the horn -- I would have backed off and held back a few seconds, let the bus go and have the whole road before continuing on my way. There is nothing going on in my life that I need to risk dealing with anyone's road rage bullshit.

Your second err was not knowing there was a cop behind you. ;)

It is a hell of a lot harder, and more dangerous, to slow down and try to merge with faster traffic behind you, especially when you are out in the oncoming lane, than it is to accelerate and pass. But you already knew that.

Boat Bum
03-22-2012, 04:26 PM
Re: Being a man I open my window and we exchange pleasantries.

You showed him. ;)


What would you have done?? ;?

Curious minds wanna know.....

I wasn't trying to impugn his masculinity, the juxtaposition was comical, that's all.

As far as what I would have done? That is hard to say without knowing my perceived threat level. I do know this, no one wins a fight.

jrolin1
03-22-2012, 04:29 PM
I have a short fuse when it comes to road rage. I was calling an agent the other day on a closing and my vehicle has bluetooth so I'm listening to it ring then her voice mail comes on and ask to leave a message about that time this junk old buick cuts in front of me and stops and all this is going on at about 50 mph and I start yelling you MF'er do you have your head up your a$$ or what about then he flips me a bird and I come apart telling him I'll F you up you piece of $hit about then the message comes back on the phone through the speakers letting me know that my message will be returned promptly.



Oops! I can't wait to hear the return call details.

Gator56
03-22-2012, 05:06 PM
I called her after that 3 times before I got an answer and let her know I mistakenly left a terrible message during a road rage moment while I was calling her to talk about her closing and please just delete it and not even listen to it. Well I've never heard from her again well once by email. I think I scared her :-(.

KJS
03-22-2012, 05:48 PM
I was driving to work today, the road is 2 lanes each direction, I'm in the left lane riding along side this older tour type bus in a 25MPH zone.

As we round a turn toward a red light the bus cuts the turn tight and pushes me into the oncoming lane, there were no cars coming in my direction so I move over and tap the horn as if to say, "Hey I'm here".

With that the driver now swerves toward me in a deliberate manner. I had a car directly behind me 25-30' so I speed up and pull in front of the bus (as I had to make a stop on the next block for a sandwich), now I'm in the right lane and the bus pulls up in the left lane, the driver opens his boarding door and yells toward me. Being a man I open my window and we exchange pleasantries. He decides to get off his bus and attack me, I'm in no position to win this fight as he is on my door and I could not get out if I wanted to (and I didn't want to). I don't know how people allow an argument to escalate into a battle.

Long story short there was a LEO behind us the whole time, he comes up between our vehicles and points to me, "You, get out of here I saw what happened, and you, Lic. reg, and ins. what the hell do you think you’re doing etc, etc," as the light turns green and I pull away. I stop on the next block to grab my pre ordered sandwich, look back and the A hole and smile! Finally a COP when you need one!

Don't know the outcome, cop sounded like a hard ass, if this guy wasn't all in order he was in trouble for sure, out of state plates and all.

Good story, it made my day. Thanks for sharing.:thumbsup:

08087
03-22-2012, 05:53 PM
Someone asked what state it was, we were in NJ, he had NY plates.

Don't know how long the officer was behind us, but long enough to know I was in the right and was not the aggressor.


In my mind nothing would have been said or done until he got off his bus.

Mist-Rest
03-22-2012, 06:12 PM
Most of you guys better learn a little about having a CDL in your wallet. Might be a good education to having a "P" endorsement attached to that piece of plastic. You don't get to just keep it like normal folks do.


My guess is that the driver no longer is working for the carrier, his license is under review by the DMV, a major is being applied to said plastic, and he will most likely be feeding his family from welfare provided by all of us working stiffs for a little.

Of course the union,,, if he was in one, might prevent all the nasty's he well deserves will have him on the wheel tomorrow. Perhaps he'll need a anger management class provided by....... The union.

ZIGZAG
03-22-2012, 06:13 PM
He was lucky you were in a good mood, he will not always be thhat lucky, so day his theory on the rule of gross tonnage will sink his ship when he least expects it. Granny may have her panties in a wad.

Boat Bum
03-22-2012, 06:33 PM
What was the length of the bus, was it short?

Phillyfish
03-22-2012, 08:41 PM
The bus driver was dead wrong,- that being said - we've all done dumb irrational things (usually in our youth)- but you never know where someone is coming from.... He could've caught his wife cheating or something else life altering and it's all misplaced anger..- doesn't make it right, but that's why the older I get , the more I let shit go.. Lol the 21yo version of myself would call me (35) a pussy... And I'm ok with that lol

CaptKennyW
03-22-2012, 08:48 PM
In certain places behavior like that would earn someone a bullet.

08087
03-23-2012, 02:39 PM
It was a regular size tour bus, a little older and dirty, my guess is that they use it for student driver training, being he was the only one on the bus when this happened he'd be the instructor (Oh my God). I could be wrong though as there were no marings saying it was a training bus.

I have a buddy that is a hot head like this driver was, they'd have killed one another for sure. Like I said, I get blowing off some steam when you think the other driver wronged you in a way that a horn blow won't do, but to get out of your car/truck or bus only invites a prison term or death, your asking for trouble.

magua
03-23-2012, 03:14 PM
I was driving to work today, the road is 2 lanes each direction, I'm in the left lane riding along side this older tour type bus in a 25MPH zone.

As we round a turn toward a red light the bus cuts the turn tight and pushes me into the oncoming lane, there were no cars coming in my direction so I move over and tap the horn as if to say, "Hey I'm here".

With that the driver now swerves toward me in a deliberate manner. I had a car directly behind me 25-30' so I speed up and pull in front of the bus (as I had to make a stop on the next block for a sandwich), now I'm in the right lane and the bus pulls up in the left lane, the driver opens his boarding door and yells toward me. Being a man I open my window and we exchange pleasantries. He decides to get off his bus and attack me, I'm in no position to win this fight as he is on my door and I could not get out if I wanted to (and I didn't want to). I don't know how people allow an argument to escalate into a battle.

Long story short there was a LEO behind us the whole time, he comes up between our vehicles and points to me, "You, get out of here I saw what happened, and you, Lic. reg, and ins. what the hell do you think you’re doing etc, etc," as the light turns green and I pull away. I stop on the next block to grab my pre ordered sandwich, look back and the A hole and smile! Finally a COP when you need one!

Don't know the outcome, cop sounded like a hard ass, if this guy wasn't all in order he was in trouble for sure, out of state plates and all.



"You, get out of here I saw what happened,"

huh ????

he did not detain you for corroboration ?

Brad1
03-23-2012, 05:05 PM
It was much more a tap of the horn than a hit of the horn. Like I said just to let him know I was next to him

That's what a horn is intended to be used for. It's just an audible signal to other drivers. But some people take it the wrong way. Granted, a sustained blast of the horn is the equivalent of shooting the middle finger.

I have a buddy that is a hot head like this driver was, they'd have killed one another for sure.

You gotta be careful. If you would've got out the car and tangled with the guy, you could found yourself getting taken away in cuffs. At the scene, cops aren't necessarily interested in determinng who's right and who's wrong. They just haul everybody's butt in and let the local magistrate sort it out. I'm speaking from personal experience. Fortunately for me, I ended up with nothing more than a fine for disorderly conduct.

08087
03-23-2012, 05:13 PM
It was a litle closer to "You, (with pointed finger) get the hell out of here", "you, Lic, Reg, Ins.!"

Glad he dismissed me, on way to work, can't be late. All the BS over nothing, and knowing the NJ court system unless he was a convict nothing would happen anyway.

Glad the cop was where he was, but so many of these cops have their hands tied by the system.

And even though "the man(ego)" wanted to get out I knew better, if it did go to court a guy like me, (no record, never been in trouble) would get slammed somehow by the system. Even a fine for both of us can hurt your credit rating and good name. Don't need the BS.

Tccameo
03-23-2012, 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yarcraft91
In Detroit, that bus driver would have been about 10 seconds away from shooting at you when the cop stepped in. LEO stopped a road rage incident in progress. A cop when you need one- thank goodness.
In south FL at least one of you would have wound up shot, if not both parties shot lol


In Florida....They call that.....stand your ground......hmmmm....sounds to me you were both lucky

Boat Bum
03-24-2012, 07:31 AM
Re: And even though "the man(ego)" wanted to get out I knew better, if it did go to court a guy like me, (no record, never been in trouble) would get slammed somehow by the system. Even a fine for both of us can hurt your credit rating and good name. Don't need the BS.

Agreed, discretion is the better part of valor.



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