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Irish Harmony
03-21-2012, 05:19 AM
I am trying to decide between the Garmin 4208 and the 740s. I currently have a 3206 with XM weather and GSD 22. I am leaning towards the 740s. Would the 740s be compatible with by current weather Ant etc or would have have to spend an additional $561 to add it the weather as that would probably be a deal breaker.


Magnolia Sun
03-21-2012, 05:30 AM
Irish: I just purchased the 720S. Same as the 740S. You'll need the newer (more expensive) GXM-51 weather module (I'm pretty sure on that) Wait for a second opinion.

bluewaterpirate
03-21-2012, 05:39 AM
The 740 can only use the GX51 Smart Antenna.

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv129/bluewaterpirate/Garmin%20740%20and%20SH%20GX2100%20Install/3-2.jpg?t=1276447476

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv129/bluewaterpirate/Garmin%20740%20and%20SH%20GX2100%20Install/1-2.jpg?t=1276447739


Irish Harmony
03-21-2012, 05:42 AM
The 740 can only use the GX51 Smart Antenna.

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv129/bluewaterpirate/Garmin%20740%20and%20SH%20GX2100%20Install/3-2.jpg?t=1276447476

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv129/bluewaterpirate/Garmin%20740%20and%20SH%20GX2100%20Install/1-2.jpg?t=1276447739

Thanks that is helpful. Really like the 740 but the weather puts me over my budget.

denny-o
03-21-2012, 05:57 AM
I have both 740s and 42xx.. There is no comparison... The 740 is newer technology in both CPU and screen and is blazing fast compared to 4xxx...
They did cripple the 740 network a bit in order to NOT torpedo the sales of 72xx units.. Ah well, what can you say....

Kingfisher0624
03-21-2012, 06:19 AM
I just bought the 740s last weekend, I am very impressed with the unit. It replaced a 2006C. It is very fast, and easy to use.

Irish Harmony
03-21-2012, 07:20 AM
Think I am leaning towards the 740s if I buy the vision chip there is a $200 rebate, so total cost of 740s including weather, chip, external antenna $2,049 vs $2,036 for the 4208. I could go re manufactured route with the 4208 and get it for $1730.

I have twin Suzuki DF 150's. What would I need to connect the engines to the 740s?

Kingfisher0624
03-21-2012, 07:42 AM
I had West Marine price match an online price from digitaloasis.com I got The 740s for 1299.99. That was the best price that I could find.

chainsaw42
03-21-2012, 08:01 AM
There are a few negatives with the 740...namely the screen is a little small and it is not networkable (which is why you need a new weather receiver), but it is better than the 4208 (and 5208) in all other ways. I think it is the right way to go.

Irish Harmony
03-21-2012, 08:10 AM
There are a few negatives with the 740...namely the screen is a little small and it is not networkable (which is why you need a new weather receiver), but it is better than the 4208 (and 5208) in all other ways. I think it is the right way to go.

Small actually helps me as the 4208 is going to be a very tight fit in my dash. It will be a little larger than my current 3206. I may hold of on the weather as 95% of my boating is in the Chesapeake and can use smart phone to get weather. Can always add weather at later date.

jacksdad
03-21-2012, 08:16 AM
wait...the 740 needs a $560 antenna to get weather service? am i reading that right?

Irish Harmony
03-21-2012, 08:20 AM
wait...the 740 needs a $560 antenna to get weather service? am i reading that right?

Yes you reading that right!!!

jacksdad
03-21-2012, 08:23 AM
That is nutso! half the cost of adding a GMR 18hd radar for pete's sake!

What is different about this antenna vs. a $20 xm/sirius antenna you can buy elsewhere?

Sure am glad i saw this...was very close to pulling the trigger on a 740S and doing a part year weather thing but no friggin way am i dropping $600 + paying monthly fees.

Irish Harmony
03-21-2012, 08:27 AM
I had West Marine price match an online price from digitaloasis.com I got The 740s for 1299.99. That was the best price that I could find.

Good Job getting West marine to price match it, but the one advertised on the site includes a $200 rebate when you buy a G2 vision chip. So I am including that in my pricing since I plan on purchasing a chip as well.

Irish Harmony
03-21-2012, 08:33 AM
That is nutso! half the cost of adding a GMR 18hd radar for pete's sake!

What is different about this antenna vs. a $20 xm/sirius antenna you can buy elsewhere?

Sure am glad i saw this...was very close to pulling the trigger on a 740S and doing a part year weather thing but no friggin way am i dropping $600 + paying monthly fees.

I know it is steep I currently have the weather on my 3206 and called Garmin and the confirmed it wouldn't work with my current antenna.

jacksdad
03-21-2012, 08:35 AM
The weather service as shown by bwp sure looks awesome but i was struggling just to deal with the $50/mo to have full weather service that didn't include music. Adding the antenna to the cost just sorta craps all over my plan.

Ah well boating isn't always for those of limited borrowing capacity.

Irish Harmony
03-21-2012, 08:38 AM
The weather service as shown by bwp sure looks awesome but i was struggling just to deal with the $50/mo to have full weather service that didn't include music. Adding the antenna to the cost just sorta craps all over my plan.

Ah well boating isn't always for those of limited borrowing capacity.

I only pay 29.99 a month for my weather service. It is great to have. Have avoided many storms thanks to it. If I go with the 740 I will just use my wifes smartphone etc to keep an eye.

jacksdad
03-21-2012, 08:49 AM
I think to get lightning and projected path you have to step up package. Awesome info but agree will just use phone I'm already paying for.

Irish Harmony
03-21-2012, 08:54 AM
I think to get lightning and projected path you have to step up package. Awesome info but agree will just use phone I'm already paying for.

You are probably right, but I found the 29.99 package worked just fine. Could see the storms coming in plenty of time to move, stay put or head in. The animation gave a good indication of direction etc. Yea I could spend the 30. a month for a hotspot on my wife's phone and use ipad to see weather

Kingfisher0624
03-21-2012, 10:11 AM
Good Job getting West marine to price match it, but the one advertised on the site includes a $200 rebate when you buy a G2 vision chip. So I am including that in my pricing since I plan on purchasing a chip as well.

I have also sent in the rebate for the $200.00 for the Garmin G2 Vision. West Marine price matched and Garmin offered the rebate as well.

Miss Sadie
03-21-2012, 10:40 AM
Once you pay the initial activation fee, you can buy the service for the months you need then suspend. I re-start my service April and end it November each year. No problems.

bluewaterpirate
03-21-2012, 11:03 AM
As pointed there are many tools that you can use in todays marine electronics world. From cell phones to satellite services. My wife and I fish offshore so we have XM Weather connected to a Garmin 740 before that to a Garmin 545 and before that to a Garmin 376c. Not only has it saved our backsides on a numerous ocassions but also given us the data to call trips off before we ventured offshore and stay on station even though things look ominus. Offshore weather forcasts are a crap shoot especially in the spring and fall. Yes the service costs money but it's been worth every penny I've spent on it.

The great thing about these forums is we can exchange stories and lessons learned. Every captain has a big responiblity to those who sail with them. The thing I've learned over the 41 years I've been going to sea is if something doesn't feel right then it's not right.

Last year we were the fishing the Big Rock area about 50 miles SE of Morehead City NC. We knew there was a chance of late afternoon TS so we left BR around 1pm. Weather inshore at that point was clear. About 10 miles inshore of BR we heard a call for assistance from another boat (engine trouble) so we deviated to help. Took the captain about 2 hours to resolve his issue but in that time a line of TS had formed just over the beach then moved about three miles south and just stalled. We could see that on our XM Weather display. We decided (the other boat and us) to move to R14 about 25 miles SE of MHC and hold to see what the storms would do. As it started to get dark we called the Coast Guard to let them know our location and what are plans were. The storms finally started moving to the east around 9PM so we beat feet for the barn. Sure we could have a tried to punch thru but based on what XM was showing it just didn't seem to be a prudent decision.

Here's what it look like as we approached MHC around 10:30pm. Lighting is impressive at night. :thumbsup:

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/5106277_5928591

This is what we saw on our 740.

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv129/bluewaterpirate/Garmin%20740%20and%20SH%20GX2100%20Install/3093.jpg?t=1278811844

The old days 376C

http://cdn-2-service.phanfare.com/images/4892322_2160177_64860696_WebLarge_3/Image-4892322-64860696-3-WebLarge_0_357fde72cd364e27a65eb9625b92f6e3_1

http://cdn-2-service.phanfare.com/images/4892322_2159979_31018796_WebLarge_3/Image-4892322-31018796-3-WebLarge_0_02e92a4deeb5de562d379d0798290487_1

http://cdn-2-service.phanfare.com/images/4892322_2160177_64860704_Web_3/Image-4892322-64860704-2-Web_0_85a6e8a4e904559472b1edf2ab12a613_1


If you fish where you reliable cell service all the time then you can use your phone ... but if you venture offshore then your cell becomes useless. The nice thing with XM/Sirius is that you see the weather devlopiing long before NOAA broadcasts warnings.

Garmin GXM 51 $560.00

Simrad WM2 (sirius) $621.00
RayMarine (sirius) depending on model $499 - $900

Irish Harmony
03-22-2012, 05:56 AM
As pointed there are many tools that you can use in todays marine electronics world. From cell phones to satellite services. My wife and I fish offshore so we have XM Weather connected to a Garmin 740 before that to a Garmin 545 and before that to a Garmin 376c. Not only has it saved our backsides on a numerous ocassions but also given us the data to call trips off before we ventured offshore and stay on station even though things look ominus. Offshore weather forcasts are a crap shoot especially in the spring and fall. Yes the service costs money but it's been worth every penny I've spent on it.

The great thing about these forums is we can exchange stories and lessons learned. Every captain has a big responiblity to those who sail with them. The thing I've learned over the 41 years I've been going to sea is if something doesn't feel right then it's not right.

Last year we were the fishing the Big Rock area about 50 miles SE of Morehead City NC. We knew there was a chance of late afternoon TS so we left BR around 1pm. Weather inshore at that point was clear. About 10 miles inshore of BR we heard a call for assistance from another boat (engine trouble) so we deviated to help. Took the captain about 2 hours to resolve his issue but in that time a line of TS had formed just over the beach then moved about three miles south and just stalled. We could see that on our XM Weather display. We decided (the other boat and us) to move to R14 about 25 miles SE of MHC and hold to see what the storms would do. As it started to get dark we called the Coast Guard to let them know our location and what are plans were. The storms finally started moving to the east around 9PM so we beat feet for the barn. Sure we could have a tried to punch thru but based on what XM was showing it just didn't seem to be a prudent decision.


If you fish where you reliable cell service all the time then you can use your phone ... but if you venture offshore then your cell becomes useless. The nice thing with XM/Sirius is that you see the weather devlopiing long before NOAA broadcasts warnings.

Garmin GXM 51 $560.00

Simrad WM2 (sirius) $621.00
RayMarine (sirius) depending on model $499 - $900

I agree fortunately for us in the Chesapeake cell service is reliable, and there options to get to safety if storms come up. I wouldn't venture offshore with out it as I know how quickly storms come up.

downtown
03-22-2012, 08:16 AM
Couple of 740s questions. Thinking about bundle.

Can it play XM or Sirius radio with that antenna?

What does the G2 vision chart do and is it worth having.

What transducers are you using for optimum fish finding capabilities?

semperfifishing
03-22-2012, 08:27 AM
Couple of 740s questions.


What transducers are you using for optimum fish finding capabilities?



For transducer selection..what are your fishing conditions? How deep and such?



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