Trucks & Trailers - Kodiak trailer brakes - better than other ?

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bgreene
02-26-2012, 06:26 PM
Are Kodiak brakes " better " than the other trailer brakes ?
Do Kodiak's last longer, and have better salt water corrosion resistance

I'm shopping for a roller boat trailer for salt water use.
I'm not finding the brakes being Kodiak.........

So:

A. Where do you get a good salt water roller trailer with Kodiak parts ?
B. Is it worth fussing over ?


EASTERNMARINE
02-27-2012, 06:59 AM
Kodiak disc brakes have been on the market for some time and have a pretty proven track record. There are different levels of corrosion resistance available, and you get what you pay for. The standard dacromet finish is good for limited salt water use, The dacromet/stainless is the best value, in it you get the dacromet rotor and hub with the stainless steel caliper.

They also make an all stainless (except the hub), but it is twice the price of the dacromet/stainless and almost three times the standard dacromet kit. If you are purchasing a new trailer you may want to price out what they are going to charge to add brakes. Then you can call or email us and compare, you may be able to save some $$$ by adding them yourself. Give us a call or email us anytime.

Regards,
Eastern Marine
1.800.453.7379

bgreene
02-27-2012, 03:36 PM
Thanks - think I've heard some good things about you at Eastern.

I'm looking for a dual axle, roller to pull my 96' Wellcraft V21.
Weighs 2,200 + outboard,full fuel, etc brings it to about 3,200lbs.
I figure a 4,200 -4,500 rated is fine. With brakes - NJ requires on both axles, yuck.....

Anyway, need maximum salt water protection, probably sticking with galvanized.

Please tell me what you may offer - send to bennettliz@verizon.net.

Thanks


dogfather
02-27-2012, 03:56 PM
Kodiak is the best...hands down. No, I don't work for the company, but I own two trailers with them, and have worked on countless others with and without Kodiak. if you're in the salt...all stainless is the way to go.

GB Dude
02-28-2012, 12:38 PM
This might help your decision a little bit.

I finally after 4 1/4 yrs decided to replace my pads. The pads were shot and next time it will be 3 yrs vs 4.

Here are pictures of the kodiak parts

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/chi6488/IMG_2613-1.jpg

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/chi6488/IMG_2615.jpg

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/chi6488/IMG_2613.jpg

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/chi6488/IMG_2614.jpg

The issue I am dealing with are the bolts holding the caliper bracket all rusted to hell. The axle arm is rusted too but it is thick and should last to 10 yrs.

I am working on finding the right bolts but you can see it is nite and day the rust that is happening and the basic freckled rust on the stainless stuff

dogfather
02-28-2012, 01:32 PM
If you remove the hub assembly, you will be able to get a straight shot at the bolts with a 6-point socket and either a breaker bar or impact wrench. And, if you remove all the grease from the spindle, you'll be less likely to start a fire when/if you need to heat the bolts to facilitate removal...if you do heat them, heat the "threaded" portion, not the heads. When I install, I used never-seize, but who knows who did yours or what they used. FYI, heat also will melt Loctite if it was used.

GB Dude
02-28-2012, 02:14 PM
Not to derail thread but what type of bolts should I use to replace them with?? I have a triple axle so it is not a quick deal. Might as well remove hub assembly. I haven't done aything with the bearings either besides a few squirts of grease each season

Hot dipped galvanize?

EASTERNMARINE
02-28-2012, 02:15 PM
Do you have any pictures of how the stainless caliper you could post?


Eastern
1.800.453.7379

dogfather
02-28-2012, 02:32 PM
Sadly, there are no "strong" corrosion proof/resistant bolts that might be used to install the caliper mounting plate. I think Kodiak supplies grade 5, but you'd need to check with them to be certain...it might be grade 8. Hot dipped are not strong, as the "hot" part of the process changes the metallurgy. Maintenance is the only solution. I too have a triple axle trailer with Kodiaks, along with a tandem with them as well, along with many others. I'm starting to think it is possible to have too many boats...or just too many trailers.

GB Dude
02-28-2012, 02:48 PM
Do you have any pictures of how the stainless caliper you could post?


Eastern
1.800.453.7379

No, but the calipers look like the rotor. Minor freckling.

If I get a chance to work on the bolts I will pic the calipers.

RocknReeln
02-28-2012, 03:21 PM
As I read above from Eastern---Kodiak does not make a SS hub. If so, I have to say that Hub in the picture, sure does look good. My guess is that it is coated.

dogfather
02-28-2012, 03:30 PM
probably galvanized...they are available in nearly every size. And yes, Kodiak does make a stainless hub, but only with integral rotors.

Bigger Hammer
02-28-2012, 08:28 PM
Do you have any pictures of how the stainless caliper you could post?

You're looking for pictures of installed stainless calipers? Trailer was bought new in April 2005, the pictures here were taken in 2009. It's been almost 2 years since the pictures were taken, still nothing but little flecks of surface rust.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/trucks-trailers/225464-air-tight-hub-installation.html

EASTERNMARINE
02-29-2012, 06:56 AM
probably galvanized...they are available in nearly every size. And yes, Kodiak does make a stainless hub, but only with integral rotors.


We are a dealer for them and I have never seen them before?;?

dogfather
02-29-2012, 07:23 AM
Well, They used too anyway. You are correct, they are no longer in the catalog, but a call to Cameron Rapp might be a good thing if you really need them. I suspect they are no longer listed due to the hefty price tag they carried. FYI: I have a set of bronze rotors (with SS everything else)from them that I purchased and installed over 10-years ago...before they offered SS rotors. I trailer my charter boat so they get lots of miles. They look and perform as new. Sadly, they are no longer available. They were discontinued due to material cost and low sales...but I think they perform better than SS due to bronze's ability to dissipate heat.

EASTERNMARINE
02-29-2012, 09:46 AM
Dogfather,

Thanks for the info!


Chris
Eastern
1.800.453.7379

GB Dude
03-03-2012, 12:52 PM
Spent a few hours yesterday swapping the bolts out. I replaced them with SS bolts.

There were 5 bolts per hub so total of 30. One broke bolt and I left it like that and tightened down with 4 ss bolts. One would not budge so I left it b/c I did not want to break like the other one. Last two axles gave me the problems.

Sad part is I paid $500 extra for SS hardware. I guess builder pulled a fast one b/c I could not see behind the rotor.. The other SS stuff they put on still looks great.

Cut corners where you can. I hope builder goes belly up



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